Weird. There is no such icon on my windows 7. Yes, it's legit version.
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Do you have all the last updates? It may come in one of those.
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That was proven not to be true,only people with legit keys will get the free upgrade,that is why it is tied to windows update,as only people with legit keys will have access to windows update service.
Though if you have windows 8 i do not see the any real need to update,maybe if you have windows 7.
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Who cares, they'll crack it like every other windows in no time. Besides, you should remember that Directx 12 will be W10-only compatible, so yeah, every gamer will have to upgrade someday.
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Maybe so but i never upgraded to Vista for DirectX i will not do it for windows.By the time older directX is dropped a new windows will be out,and if he needs to blackmail you into upgrades with holding back feature it does not say much,Your product should sell itself,you should not have to hold things back to force people ditch older stuff,Apple does the same thing by dropping support for older hardware regardless if it can still ruin the current ISO..
I am still do not understand why pirates skimp on the os but spend all that money on nice hardware.That is like buying a 1000 CPU and GPU then getting a dirt cheap power supply.
Either way i have a legit windows and access to a free copy of Windows 10 so i do not need to worry about DirectX12
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Err... what? How can you make that comparison? It makes no sense to me. In the first place, it's not like if using pirate software would ruin your hardware (as buying a cheap PSU will)
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Well it did not come off they way i wanted it to,in short i was just trying to say why would you run the risk f a pirated version that may or may not work 100% like it suppose and may contain hidden malware or other crap just for the sake of it is so called easier.
Same with power supply it is easy to go for the cheap one and save a bit of money,but your risking your whole system on a cheap power supply.Same with a pirated copy of windows you could be risking more then just have a non legit windows but other things.
Windows 10 does not allow to turn off updates so maybe that is part of his anti-piracy,where now it easier to pirate windows because you can turn off auto update and other checks,and the loaders usually fake the genuine part,but as i said the more he locks down the core windows stuff the harder it will be to pirate it
And it actually took a bit to crack windows 7 and make a decent working loader for it,and it was even harder with windows 8,so i have feeling 10 will be even harder
this is kinda directed at both replies just to keep things cleaner
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I am still do not understand why pirates skimp on the os but spend all that money on nice hardware.That is like buying a 1000 CPU and GPU then getting a dirt cheap power supply.
That's pretty simple: they do because it's easy!
They probably would take hardware for free if it was laying around and you was only supposed to pay into a black box. Or maybe they wouldn't - but most people value software very low just for the reason that you can make a massive amount of copies without much effort - therefore a single copy of a software is not worth anything (so they reason...)
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only people with legit keys will have access to windows update service
Might want to double-check that statement.
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I meant have access to the update service to get the windows 10 free,and you need a legit key for that
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Hmm, interesting. I read they weren't actually giving it to anybody; you had to have a legit copy. China was mentioned in this information as well.
Also, thinking on all the mess 8 and 8.1 did (and I'm still on Win7 and was smart enough to not jump that cofcrap for touchscreenscof), the array of problems or incompatibilities it brings with games and game tools such radeonpro, screen-recorder and maybe more, I think I'll stay clear of that UNTIL it's proven I can't use Dx12 on w7 (and ofc actually need it for their proven improvement over old one IN GAMES).
TL;DR: Wait until others be guinea-pigs / betatesters and then and only then when I know it's safe (99%) wont ruin my rig, AND still need it for games, go for it :D
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1) Flash-News: You can't use DX12 on Win7.
2) DX12 is a jump forward just like DX9 was, but you won't see games for it for over a year (big thanks to AMD for scaring the shit out of Microsoft on this one).
3) There are enough guinea-pigs this time (you can turn on Win7 style and f*ck Win8).
4) Don't install it, but make sure to claim your free copy within a year (never bothered installing my free Win8, but free is free).
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thanks SolSys, but if I may:
- never say never; many made that mistake and now we use/do/seen stuff that they claim were impossible.
- Dx12 isn't here yet so that jump forward remains to be seen, it's theorical and everything seems nice, see trailers of FC3, TW3 and more, what was presented and what we got... so yeah.. Also, haven't read anything, why do you chalk this up to AMD? (sorry, I gotta now isn't just nvidia fanboyism talking, just facts).
- Already knew this, but still, it's w8 under the hood, dress, mask or makeup, same answer, no thanks!
- Can't claim it/wont try it as... you know why, you wont get a written confession out of me :P
Free is free, sure, but let me pick which freebie I want :P would you get a free flue? :P how about free acne or something even nastier? XD
Ha, for some reason you also never bothered with your free w8.. we must agree on more than we think we do, huh?
btw, I'm AMD user, and the little I know about Dx is that it allows anyone to use the hardware we want; like both AMD & nvidia graphic cards getting the best of both worlds... sorta :) so nothing against that, you can never have too much physx or future features, we need some common grounds, work as a team, gamers, the MR harness the powaa
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Its attributed it to AMD because it forced Microsoft to develop DX12 (which they didn't want to) after a good chunk of developers were impressed with AMD's Mantle project.
for some odd reason the latest version of DX12 ran better on AMD cards than Mantle itself. Go figure
FYI, I'm more of "bang-for-the-buck" kinda guy and don't care about fanboyism, its just that "credits due where credit's due".
**sorry for not answering the other points, but its past 2am and even I need to sleep (with a machete under my pillow just to be on the safe side).
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Hopefully you're now asleep and this message wont disturb your well earned rest :)
Hmm all I can say if that's true, it's go AMD! clap clap clap! What M$ needed to develop something better (they didn't want to? WTF?) is a kick in the nuts :P
Also, as AMD user, I can say I'm tired of 99.9% games give better performance (sometimes even fluid play vs AMD hardware on nvidia's "powered" games. So, if thanks to Mantle we for once got to enjoy our hardware and BALANCE the scale a bit, then I'm happy and hopeful.
Perhaps most nvidia users don't know how it is on the AMD side when running games. I'm not telling anybody to switch or ditch their current hardware, all I want is some equity, I want them to compete with fair chances and deliver good performance without undermining or taking adventage because the devs (whatever "rea$on" they got) to develop most games under nvidia and hurting amd's performance in these games.
Lastly, I guess I can agree with you there too, about the bangforthebuck, since my first PC built always measured money invested/performance expected and call it a day, availability and prices pretty much set it up for me.
Thanks again for the info, and watch out with that machete's edge you might wake up Van Gogh-styled! XD
(was that a hint for dying light play? :) if so, hit me up bud!)
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That icon is for a program that lets you reserve your free upgrade, that's all. Has be something else that causes you trouble.
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Something else is creating you problems, you just reserved the Windows 10 update, nothing else, chech your PC for unknown files...
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The process is GWX.exe and it's running from C:\Windows\System32\GWX\GWX.exe (in a default Windows installation).
I am using Process Explorer from SysInternals/Microsoft and it's so easy to locate and delete the process.
Have to wait till next logon/reboot to see if the icon pops up again. Have not yet deleted the file from my system.
EDIT: I'm using legit Windows 7 Ultimate Edition.
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Well the point might rather be that i am using an illegal version (which always worked fine for all these years) and yes i have a legit version too but it being a HP computer it gave me problems saying the OEM key was used too much, Microsoft kept saying i have to contact HP and HP said to contact Microsoft. HP even said in the end to just send my pc to tech support while it wasn't necessary.
So it might lock up for people using an illegal version, and somehow it updated my pc by showing that icon which i did not ask for so while it supposedly only reserves windows 10, i have some doubts it only reserves it.
I use Eset and Malwarebytes Antimalware so in general well protected and i only surfed for like 2 hours (and only sites like this and youtube) this morning did not much else.
Regardless people shouldn't have that icon shoved in our face and should be possible to just make it go away.
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We can make it go away, just wait for 29th of July.
It's a week after my exams end, it's the best timing I could have that allows me to hype without getting deconcentrated. Though I already tried it, so it's not that new, it was really rough around the edges, I wanna see if that's changed.
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from what i have learned about owning a PC. if it works, then don't update shit EVER. every time i update new problem and programs are forced onto my pc and i even had to download a program to delete some of them because i could not remove them as administrator.
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In most ways that would be better, but often in Microsoft there are also alot of security problems (sometimes severe) that can only be fixed with their updates)
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small security updates are fine. i have been running with a older version of flash player for ages, auto ad-blocks everything. updating things has had a history of fucking me over. updated my apple iPhone and it broke, same way i lost a laptop. my other iPhone the battery expanded destroying the phone from the inside. apple created the ultimate marketing scheme, none of their phones can be used for more then a few years.
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It's called Planned Obsolescence, they build it so it slowly gets worse and worse until it breaks, conveniently in time for the new model. Most technology is built to do it these days
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I still have an iPhone 3GS that's about 6 years old now and working fine. My 8 year old Windows XP computer works reasonably quick for Bejeweled and Internet plus basic programs. I laugh in the face of planned obsolescence. However, I do treat things like eggs or children that are not those things.
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+1
Four days ago i've updated my system and just got massive slowdown. When i say massive i mean MASSIVE. I went from 190 to 13 fps in Alien Isolation, 70 to 18 in GTA V and from 290 to 110 in CS:GO. Besides of that system booting time was 3 times longer and shutting down twice.
Also system started to lag so badly that i couldn't even move mouse smoothly. Update reroll fixed that problem.
Never ever again...
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go to task manger, then find details and start googling things you don't know. once you have that down you just need to find ways of disabling them. some its really easy and others it takes ages, it is a dangerous game tho and you can mess things up.
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I have legal win7 bought installed on my laptop and i had problems with Service Packs, so f%ck no way I'll download new system, f$ck no!
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Thanks if that works, good tip and then block it from being installed a next time.
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+1 We had to do this for our group of users at work that alpha test our patches. The program can cause some system file corruption.
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Well turn out I using Windows 8.1 Enterprise. I need to update/upgrade by myself when it's available. I'm MSDN Ultimate member.
"Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer."
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Same deal.
I have the little icon on my machine now and Im an 8.1 user, I pressed a button to reserve and it did a test and now it says I am ready for Windows 10.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads
Go there and just click Reserve.
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I already reserved it, I'm using Windows 8.1
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i don't do it, do i look like i want some ugly textures? xD
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Only to pirated versions, right.
(I have alegit W7 Home, and no sign of that W10 update thing, I don't want anyways.)
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only for windows 7 and up.
Though it makes sense they stop supporting that and give huge discounts to migrate to 7,so if you hung on,your SOL
On the bright side you could find a copy of windows 7 for a decent price you could then upgrade for free,i know it does not seems like such a deal,but given that if you could find windows 7 say for 75,i am sure that would be cheaper then buying 10 outright.
It gives the free upgrade through windows update,once you reserve it you have a year to use it and get it for free,though not sure if that starts from the time you reserve it or when windows 10 is actually released
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Personally I went ahead and purchased Windows 8, in most cases it seems Windows 7 is more expensive.
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Ok since we are debating about windows 10, I got that icon this morning too and i reserved but the thing is....when it will install, will the installation delete my files (concerned about steam and my downloaded games) any information about this?
Thanks
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Not sure, but it should be just upgrade, so your apps and games should stay unharmed.
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you have neglected to read the TOS for windows 10 I have been told that after one year of use it goes to a monthly fee to use it. That is why i will never do it.
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+1 I've read that it is not the OS that will last 1 year, it is the offer to download the OS for free that lasts for only 1 year.
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i was just letting people know what i was told in cause it happens to be true and see if it gets researched a little more to see if it is true.
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You attempt to lend credence to your statement by telling people they've neglected to read the Terms Of Service (which aren't even available for perusal until Windows 10 is officially released), then proceed to spread misinformation about the free OS upgrade without so much as doing a Google search on the subject, "in cause (sic) it happens to be true and see if it gets researched a little more".
Why not just do the research yourself before "letting people know" something that isn't true?
This is from January:
"This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no additional charge."
- Terry Myerson, Microsoft's Executive Vice President of Operating Systems
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MS wanna purge windows 7 , just like they wanted to get rid of xp forcing people to switch to vista
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Why would they want people to keep using old versions of Windows? Not only does it means people aren't buying Windows, it also means programmers are stuck supporting extremely outdated code which is a negative for both Microsoft and anyone wishing to release programs on Windows. It's a lose/lose situation in their eyes.
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Wait. Why didn't I get that notification about Windows 10?
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check if there is windows icon in the bottom right of screen/taskbar.
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You have to install an Optional Windows Update to get it to appear.
EDIT - Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3035583)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3035583
Looks like this is the one that triggers the Windows 10 reserve.
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Hit the up-arrow next to your taskbar icons, choose 'customize', and choose to hide the GWX icon.
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Mine also popped up a few days ago, if you accept it is there an immediate download?
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If you succeeded reserve, you will get this email if you choose to receive email confirmation.
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Any non legit windows 7 ultimate users can give me their experience with the downloading reserve on the windows 10? and any problems or improvements they noticed would be nice to hear as well
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Got it few days ago and reserved,all my devices are compatible and I hope it will be 20% cooler...
( I have Win 8.1)
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I'm currently struggling to decide whether upgrading to Windows 10 is a good idea, or stick with Windows 7 and miss the opportunity to upgrade...
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It's just a reservation. You can cancel it at any time, and even if you don't, there's no obligation to install Windows 10 when it's released.
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(minor trolling ahead)
This wouldn't have happened on Linux or MacOS ;)
(or if you wisely would have deactivated updates)
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Linux is much superior when it comes to updates, 99.99999999% of the time you don't even need to restart after installing updates.
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But not restarting Linux can cause problems, potentially even security issues, because some programs may use newer version of [library] while another uses older.
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Thats only partially an issue. For instance there are at least 2 mechanisms now to patch a kernel in live state so you don't need a reboot for it to be active. If you replace critical software & libraries like for instance libc you can replace it and issue an (on an sysv init system)
going back to console and shutting down most services
$ sudo init 2
back to desktop
$ sudo init 5
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Absolutely simple if the components in your system are supported. Grab your fav distro and get a live version / network installer ISO. Burn and boot from this cd/dvd. Get going. Or use a tool like unetbootin for windows to create an usb boot stick. If that didn't work your hardware might be troublesome which can happen. Bleeding edge hardware is often prone for problems but else it works on a very broad base of pcs.
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Ran the beta versions of Windows 10, and it looked very similar to Windows 8.1.
Only real difference is the Start Menu now opens on the desktop, and not its own Live Tiles window, and the new Cortana search.
Beware to upgrade at the very start, I couldn't find the GeForce/Nvidia drivers I needed at the time of last use (last week).
Let's hope they all come to the party before the switch.
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Click onto the arrow pointing up near it.
Click "Customize."
Find the Win10 Icon and select "Hide Icon."
Damn that was hard :p
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I had this icon this morning on windows 7 to show there is a free update for windows 10.
There doesn't seem to be an (easy) way to make it disappear so i pressed okay for the heck of it (it just reserves it and supposedly doesn't install anything) but after that shortly my internet pages didn't load properly anymore, so i rebooted, then i only got black screens, even in safe mode.
Only after several reboots everything seems okay again. It might be a coincidence but i would be careful if i were you by accepting it.
But is there any way to get rid of that icon?
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