Mr SteamDB, Pavel Djundik, reveals on Twitter that Valve now wants you more loyal and is working on a new program that will offer users points and rewards (badges, discounts, etc.).

searching deep in Steam he also found that "loyal members" will be able to "react" tagging user reviews with terms like "hot take", "deep thoughts", "hilarious" and... "poetry"

a random "reaction":

-50 loyalty points if you have Epic Games Store installed

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+100 loyalty point if you talk about loyalty points?

3 years ago
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LOL

3 years ago
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But have you heard about Steam Loyalty Points™️?

3 years ago
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+1000 points for praising gaben

3 years ago
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how many coffees do i have to buy to get my free one?

i mean games

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My predictions on incredible profits we'll get for being a loyal customer:
$1 = 1 point.
For 300 points you'll get 10 more letters to the description on your profile.
For 3,333 points you'll get I spent $3,333 to get a badge that proves that Steam is better than any other launcher because it has badges badge.
For 8,000 points you'll get 2% off on any game (not attachable).
For 22,000 points you'll be able to change the color of the text on your profile.

All I'm saying is Steam gives us nothing particulary useful and we're supposed to be like heavy breathing.

3 years ago
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+1

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:D

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+1

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I second this, knowing what measly "rewards" we usually get during the events.

P.S. You forgot a reward that you can use only for a stupidly short time and then it expires.

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For 60.000 points you'll get a special profil that you only can use for 25sec but it will remain as a useless item in your inventory forever.

"hurra!"

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Moreover, it'll be known for locking up and/or crashing accounts for roughly 12% of all users acquiring it. No point refunds will be offered [same as they already have a policy of not fixing any issues related to purchases or badges, even if the issue was caused by an action done by their support team previously].

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Its will be 25secs region restricted profit

3 years ago
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50k points for a rainbow profile name

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100,000 points you get 5% off all Early Access games.

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Care to explain how is that ??

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for me its the opposite. Steam has been getting better. In my region we finally got regional prices and support for our currency and local payment methods(before that we had to use USD), we also got the refund policy and the remote play and remote play together. I also like the new library look and functionalities.

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^this

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It's good that you got what you should have got long time before. But talking about the new UI I don't know what to say. I say that by no means is it an improvement. Opinions are divided

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Opinions will always be divided because some people simply don't like change, even if it is for the better.

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That is the purpose. Change must be welcomed by the majority. I don't think the majority agreed with these changes. You would probably have agreed as long as the community is asked before these changes happen. DOH
Personally, I don't mind not using them, so your suggestion works for both cases.

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Change must be welcomed by the majority.

I don't agree with this. Imagine a scenario where Capcom asked RE fans - do you want our next game Resident Evil 7 to be in first person? How much percent would say yes? I'm thinking less than twenty. Now first person isn't objectively better than third and vice versa, but it is a big change, and I don't think that many people would be so enthusiastic to accept it blindly. We like changes when they are objectively better - cheaper stuff, bigger download speeds, higher resolutions; in other we like 'the good old' we are already used to.

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I understand. So those changes are good just because they only suit you personally? Doubt the whole world agree with you. You don't have to consider your own opinion as that of the majority. Just as your subjectivism comes about "good changes" so the opposite comes when I saw these changes and thought wtf that Valve wants to become the Epic Games Store? Thank God I could have the option to revert to the old version of Steam. I don't even know how many times I vomited when I looked at the new "improvements". Not to mention the good "functionalities" ... By the way, if Valve had been asked before by the whole community if this change had been implemented, I am 99,97% that this "good change" you are talking about would not have been implemented in the first place.

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That's great for you.

For my country they removed the possibility to circumvent ridiculous censorship by making it impossible to activate region locked keys via VPN :(

3 years ago
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That's basically covering there rear from lawsuits from people break the laws of there country and Vavle not doing anything about it a known exploit.

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Congratulations but when i was young games used to be a 2 euros on sale.

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Why is it important to get prices in your own currency? Their conversion rates are usually worse, it was a sad day when Steam supported Australian Dollar.

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Depends a lot on your country and currency I guess. In mine, when they changed to my local currency, prices went down by a lot. There's also how, when you don't have local payment methods, sometimes you pay extra tax on top the price of the game (don't know if its the same eveywhere, but that happened in my country, especially with a recent change of laws)

3 years ago
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I deny it.

3 years ago
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I can

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so a rewards program is a bad thing now? personally, i respect companies a little more who are willing to reward their loyal customers with discounts.

3 years ago
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Depends on the rewards.

The last few sale events had worthless rewards.

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oh yeah, because change is so bad and we loooooove companies that stay the same for decades and dont care to change anything.

Even if you dont like new implementations, how do they affect the basic function of steam ? You still have your regular list of games on left side and you can press play. No ones pressing you on using the new features.

Of course perception of change differs from person to person, but steam has gotten better and better for me. The new chat is 100000% better, the new library view is a lot better. As I dont care about store changes much I simply dont use most of the functions, doesnt affect me playing games at all. But I suppose complaining about everything is simply cool.

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Well, if you have an older computer all these fancy new ideas just slow steam down to the point where you are actually unable to play games on steam because its eat up half of your ram. Also the glitches that happen with each new iteration, as being unable to uninstall games properly and need to task manager steam out a few times to work, or when the whole library page freezes up for hours and cant access your games. Steam became highly unreliable for me over the last year or so, and I dont think its cool or nice. I would gladly accept the old green blocky steam instead of what we have today

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Sorry to hear you are having such problems. I have had absolutely no crashes or freezes for steam since I can remember.

And how old is old in your opinion ? I have 10 year old laptop which is barely holding together. I use it for work but anything that requires moderate workload makes it slow as hell. Steam on the other hand works flawlessly on my laptop. Nothing is slow or glitchy. And that is 10 years old. I had PC that was some 14 or 15 years old, complete dinosaur.. I installed some classics from steam to play on it once I didnt have my actual PC with me. Same - worked fine. Maybe at this point it becomes nit picking. Or its time to upgrade your hardware if its age is nearing 20 years.

Yes, no doubt that at the new version rollout there may be some glitches and crashes, but as long as they fix it - its good..

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nah its only 12 year old, but its an old work laptop and not gaming one so the specs are really subpar for the kind of work steam excepts. My problem is with each new feature, steam takes more resources just to exist which get denied from the games I want to use it for. At the current moment, steam takes 300-400mb of my 3gb of ram just so it can run in the background and goes up another 150 when I start playing

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Had similar issues when the "new look" went alive
Soon after I found in the "Settings > Library Settings" a couple of useful options namely "Low Bandwidth Mode" & "Low Performance Mode"

Try them if you haven't already, might help.

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I've been using that mode since it came out and while it helps its not solving the problem entierly. But thank you for trying to help me :)

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Before the change, the Steam client never periodically froze for short periods of time just scrolling through the library. After the change, that started happening. And after freezing for a short while, it would always scroll all the way to the top. Every time it froze. Which was often. Sometimes it would happen several times right after each other.

Problems that drastic are gone now, but it is still randomly just not as responsive as it used to be some of the time. I notice it often enough for it to be annoying. That's something that never happened on before the UI change.

The PC is four or five years old and can run AAA games without problems. It's just something about the new Steam UI that's not optimized.

Sadly, if they haven't completely gotten rid of the slowdown in the client by now, I think it's unlikely that they're going to.

3 years ago
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100 disloyalty points

3 years ago
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ugh i hope not. these exclusivity wars are so stupid.

3 years ago
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Not sure if "loyalty" can be applied to slaves...

3 years ago
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Good point :)

3 years ago
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The user review tagging feature seems interesting. I guess it's kind of how slashdot (remember that site?) comments work like voting something +5 funny, +5 insightful, etc instead of a simple upvote/downvote.

3 years ago
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Can I also get my parking validated?

3 years ago
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More features, the better. I wonder if they plan on rolling it out before the summer sale?

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Unless it somehow results in cheaper / free games, sounds pointless.

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I'm assuming that I get no loyalty points for all of the 14+ years that I've already been loyal? And having been on the original wait list to buy Half Life 1? :D

3 years ago
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Do we get refunds for all the physical games we still own? XD

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Hey, I can show them the boxes for HL2, HL2 Ep1, the original Orange Box, and a few others. :D

(Pretty sure that I have Blue Shift and Opposing Forces laying around, too.)

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Only time will tell on how good or bad is gonna be

3 years ago
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EPIC plot twist

We add remove games you added on EGS for free to from your Steam account for free.

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And if you spent on EGS $1000 then Steam will holld the same sum from your wallet, right?

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-50 loyalty points if you have Epic Games Store installed

Hmm... What if I'll use GoG Galaxy 2.0 linked, instead ?

( ...Sure, I may do, especially if this kind of pointless things happens more and more. )

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CORGI save the Queen.

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-50 loyalty points if you have Epic Games Store installed

You're joking, right? Because, the only way Steam would even know about someone having EGS installed (which I don't - for the same reason) would be by spying on their computer, poking around in their system files. Of course Steam always had some spyware features, like achievements (which can be avoided by putting it in offline mode), but if they start poking around in system files that are none of their business (same as Epic) that would be a new low.

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It's a joke.

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yep, it's a joke (not mine, tho. it was on Twitter)

but, how -and what- achievements could spy... or, better said, why do you see achievements as spyware?

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Thanks God, so it was a joke. ( I couldn't check the original Twitters pages, as these ones made my cpu crash, later. )

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Um, isn't that obvious? They call them "achievements", but basically they're a record when exactly you reached a certain stage in a game or did a certain task. Combine that with other information like playtime, price you bought the game for (if bought from Steam Store), interaction with friends etc. and they actually know a lot about your gaming habits.

I'm aware, it's a very mild form of spying and probably not an issue for most people (aka "I have nothing to hide"), but it's a form of gathering information nevertheless. Basically you're trading information for fancy icons to display on your profile.

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Things like playtime are sort of unneeded I guess, but if you say to not record at what price you bought the game for, how will they give you a refund if you ask for it? The two sides of the same coin to "recording related information" maybe. Can't have Chat history without logs, can't buy anything without the other party knowing what price, where and when you bought something.

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I did not say they shouldn't record the price I bought the game for. All I'm saying this information comes in handy along with the other information they collect, like playtime, online interactions (if it's an online multiplayer game for example) and achievements. In short: some of the information they gather is necessary, achievements and your playtime(s) clearly are not.

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So...china social credit system
I guess we gotta wait it out, but more and more we need Gabe to step foward and answer some questions on reddit

3 years ago
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loyalty points witness here

3 years ago
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Wait, it's not April 1st

3 years ago
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Delayed due to COVID.

3 years ago
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Pesky Shill :D

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Nah, rather than a loyalty system I think it is just some wallet spending for points with daily coin mission for the upcoming summer sale

3 years ago
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what a relief. I still dont have epic account.

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Please use my Steam Loyalty Program referral code!

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Closed 7 months ago by icaio.