That's nothing new, unfortunately. Although it's not like their games are any very good, so... :p
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Redditors are doing it right now. I'll publish it in OP when its released
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Good job bear. Give us that list. They ain't getting my money either. Thanks for the updates boo.
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Woo hoo! Waiting for that list! They're going on my naughty list and won't see any jingle-jingle from me.
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EDIT: If that's how it's gonna be, I'll draw my own pic, with JoaoWho and hookers. Okay no hookers because maybe that'd be nsfw and stuff... But YEAH.
EDIT 2: check below.
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There you go that was the image.
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Yes, please do. We need this list and we need to boycottage their titles for good.
thank you
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+1 Not going to buy any of those. Making a game ban list.
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Elegant XD
many are emailing Valve support citing the laws but it might take a while for valve to take decision (if they decide to do it at all)
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Well the beauty is that if they don't accept the refund when that law is stated they are committing a crime.
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Yeah was maybe thinking of getting gta V but screw them now lol
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marketing 101 ... not illegal but ugly if you know
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illegal migh'tve been the wrong way to put it - but, if its done anyway it either means it matters jack shit
(no one will "sue you" or the fine is but a fart in the wind) , or it can be spinned in some way that
it is legal looking - despite the obvious attempt of trying to fool consumers
just saying, has anyone ever read about digital selling-game-software businesses being sued for this kind of conduct?
but yeah ... its still illegal, if one were that silly not to dish out a tale with a greasy lawyer - your legal-friend in crime
(in case it ever gets there)
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Pretty sure there are some laws regarding it, they just surround them with dick moves. But really ugly indeed.
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Maybe in the US. It's still illegal in plenty of countries.
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not that i know exactly but using steam means accepting US laws for the usage and whatnot ... therefore
i can't imagine who could prosecute "them" (some game company) ... which could spin the pricing tale in
some way towards "grey area" or other "missunderstanding/error" > but they wouldn't have to do anything
as long no one bothers "to go that far" at least it causes bad publicity which might do something
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It's illegal to raise the price before a sale and then have the sale price as the normal price in the UK. Steam being a US company doesn't matter in the slightest either as the moment they offer their goods for sale in the UK they become liable to UK laws.
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Although, there is a slight caveat to that (at least with physical sales).
If you are to announce something is on sale, it must have been at the previous price point for x amount of time (I can't remember how long sorry). However, it does not have to have been at that price at the location that is holding the sale.
So, with retail chains, you can find that there is one shop (probably in London) which has inflated prices compared to the rest of the stores. They then put these items on sale and transfer them to the other stores, which transfer the non-sale versions to the higher price store, which will then use the cheaper items as sale items in that store.
This is what happened in the (now closed down) chain of stationary stores I used to work in.
If digital sales abide by the same law, as long as the game could have been purchased from the developer / publisher for the higher price 'anywhere' else, it is still legal.
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no anywhere else is no option here, valve is selling the games and making the discounts (even if the decission is taken by the publisher in the background). If valve would just be a trading-plattform like amazon or ebay it would be different, but they are not.
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I thought that might be the case, but wasn't quite sure if legally Valve is the retailer or if the publisher is, but just using valve as a store-front in which case they 'could' get around it in the way mentioned.
Shitty practice anyway and I hope something can be done to stop it. If not, I hope enough people become aware of it that damages the reputation of the parties involved enough to not be worth it.
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why should i accept US laws for using the service of a company located in the EU.....they decided to pay low EU-taxes....they decided to obey to EU-law....that simple....
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like i know :D but i highly doubt anyone will be able to contest them in any way but publicity -
for going with the allowed rules in Valve-Land-Store
would kinda weird if game companies selling on steam had to stick to other rules (sale-policy), but the US ones which enable them to sell in Valve-Land ' ^ this might be interesting to figure, since one's not buying anyway directly from the dev but Vulve
(' other than the beloved German USK known to me for releases)
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again valve S.A.R.L the company that you give the money is a europan company and not US!
Besides it does not matter if a company is 100% european or 5%...or just does have bank accounts here....microsoft , intel...all those
fancy (mainly) us-companies get their fine...
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didn't even know that valve is situated as a company in EU as well ... but what that means effectively isn't clear either
as aElder pointed out, if thats their conduct - "it" doesn't seem to matter much or at all ...
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thats what i said elsewhere, companies do what they want to do...even if they know it´s not legal, until they have to pay a fine.....sometimes they even do it again...and sometimes they get a 2nd or 3rd fine...
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publicity as being mentioned on a fine in the news, well, maybe isn't enough to compensate the fine.
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It's illegal in nearly all EU and who would? Consumer Offices?
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Did valve ever had to pay a fine to the EU?
If not....many other companies in the past had to learn their lesson....they will also
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Meh, it always happens before Black Friday sales as well, so not much of a surprise. If the price is not acceptable, I won't buy it, simple as that. Having a 75% off tag is irrelevant if the price stays the same.
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Exactly, it's so much bullshit. I don't like being played.
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Actually those Warthunder guys also seemed cool. At least their game is f2p so no loss there but still I don't like the idea of this kind of "discount"
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Oh thanks for mentioning the thing about Gaijin Games and Gaijin Entertainment. That was my initial thought as well. Glad to see it is not the bit trip people behind this.
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Do you have any idea how many hours till it starts though?
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exactly, they got out of EA at the day they increased the price. this seems absolutely fine to me and has nothing to do with the sale. also, they discounted their game on release by 20%, which is about the same price as the EA version, which also is not a bad move.
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Honestly even the last Winter Sale was fishy and I would swear that while there were many discount tags around, the prices seemed mostly the same as before.
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Is there easy way to find all those price increases?
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I believe there's some EU directive on this sort of thing, stating that a product must have been sold for a certain length of time at a particular price before it can be advertised as being on sale from that price. Want to say it's 2 weeks but I'm really not sure.
It doesn't really bother me, just got to base your purchases off the price and whether you think it's worth paying that rather than on what you think you're saving.
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Steamprices EU and Steamprices US.
Just look at the games that rised their prices within the week and those that are rising them today. My jimmies are rustling.
Example: The Age of Decadence
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Whoah, Ubisoft doubled the price of Might & Magic Heroes 4! Cheeky gits. Do they do the same thing on UPlay?
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Fortunately, that is just an error. When a game is bundled and the bundle is discounted, the site takes the bundle price instead of the single game. For example, Might and Magic Heroes VI Shades of Darkness looks like it doubled in price (14.99 -> 29.99), but if you look at the store page you can see that the price for the single game is still 14.99 while 29.99 is the price for the complete edition.
It's the same bug that affects steamgifts, when some games like Deponia go to 20 points to 100 when a bundle that contains them get discounted. It's SteamAPI's fault, probably.
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Not that we matter so much, but it's illegal in Australia.
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I can be happy knowing that Capcom will not increase the prices of its games because it refuses to price drop years old games.
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Ugh. So underhanded.
Such an act is usually bearly worth it.
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Thanks for the headsup, will also wait for that list. :)
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As always, the best advice for sales is "check minimal historic prices".
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i ask the bones...they can also tell you future sales
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well, its illegal in european union, if the EUR price changed aswell then time to report to customer protection agencies.
EDIT: i check prices allways on https://steamdb.info/sales/ anyway, if its not the cheapest while on sale i never buy:D thats why i not bought fallout new vegas some day ago, lol to their -40% if usually was -75%
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I always check price history in steamdb for the price history (although it won't work with bundles or packaged games
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All companies do the same especially for christmas. If you noticed most things get raised before christmas so they can say its on sale :( from Tvs to Games.
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DayZ was meant to have price increase over time. Devs told us when it's out of early access and released for good, it'll be 30 euros if I recall right. timing it before the sale is a dick move, but nothing they didn't state beforehand.
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Early access games can go ahead and use foolish costumers money to "improve" their games while raising their prices since they had stated that they would do it.
Now doing it every time a sale happens, and having the game's price (with promotion) same or higher than it was before, it's dick move. I'm just alerting to those situations, the decisions and opinions are of course different (:
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(It's still in early access and already almost costing the €30 they promised while being faaar from final)
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Actually, DayZ wasn't "all bad" - they didn't come back to pre-sale price after sale ended.
Yes, it was a dick move, as they simply wanted to exposure from sales while not losing money. But not as bad as other companies.
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What. The. Fuck. I'm pretty sure this is illegal.
Source
Pulling a 'DayZ', is kinda shitty, imo. For the ones who don't know, DayZ last year raised its price to go on sale, the sale being, dropping to the price before the raise.
https://www.steamprices.com/us/tracker
https://steamdb.info/sales/
Enhanced Steam extension from Google Chrome store
For checking, dropping and raises of game's prices.
SOME CONSUMER LAWS
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