Have you ever encountered the unfortunate situation of not getting any entries for your giveaway?
there is the autotrainer...
get the key from sg and that would do the rest.
plus, if no entries in those groups, why would reposting (in those groups) would work?
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Get more people, instead of these "elite" giveaways?
If it's a select club games like those coming from a $1 bundle you can guess most others will have them too already.
As tinypurple said, why would reposting work?
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Gee, there's always some with helpful suggestions. Thank you sir
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Actually that's a solid answer that would exactly solve the problems (be it alternative) of not getting enough entries, just not one you would want to hear.
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Since you keep editing your answer. The problem is not that everyone already have the games in question and I'm not planning to post to the same group again.
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Just minor wordings i sometimes change to formulate better, never about the message.
Well but the question is how large are those other groups, 200-300? or just another 10-20 group? Ifso then you will just run into the same thing.
I given cheap games, and a bunch of them through invite ones with a puzzle, even (bigger) groups like Beardtopia, Budgie's and Positive Thoughs, and i know how hard that sometimes can be to get enough entries, let alone try to pass such games in tiny groups.
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Your initial reply just read get more people instead of "elite" giveaways which is not very helpful at all to be honest. My problem is not that I don't understand how to maximize entries for giveaways, I'm just asking if there's a solution to the minor problem of reposting those unwanted giveaways in an appropriate way.
If you're curious I intent to make them public as I usually always do.
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I would never have a problem with someone sharing stuff with some groups, i just don't understand some just restrict it to that only (while some do it for cv farming and no i am not accusing you of that) and yes you do public ones too but a large majority of yours are groups, especially more lately.
Difference also is you do them in seemingly (you didn't answer that) small (private) groups rather then bigger ones.
Personally i find that elitism, that's my opinion and everyone is entitled to do their giveaways how they want, the message is still the same and i did not change that, get more people then, that's still another working solution, just not one you want to hear.
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I think you need to probe my giveaway statistics a bit more thoroughly before handing out your judgments. Personally I find it a bit elitist to be judging how and what other people are giving at all. I got to admit that, although in my opinion it usually takes quite a bit of effort, you are starting to rub me the wrong way with your condescending tone.
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I did, and true, you started out all public giveaways (and sgtools would reflect that) and then for the last month changed going from all public to more then 60-70% groups (all with very low (<10) entries), several invites, level 6-9 and yes even a few lower.
You wouldn't be the first to start that way and change it for whatever reason, just because you done so in the past doesn't change your recent stats.
Well this and the internet are are an open public place, with lots of different opinions, feel free to blacklist me over it if you want that.
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I feel it's a bit elitist to blacklist people. How many do you have blacklisted? ;)
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Don't know, i always find it hard to find that link here, really not alot and probably less then 100.
I even cleared everyone (minus 2) last year on my birthday (you can even check the topic if you want).
While i know some people that already reached their blacklist limit and they could have my slots if they wanted.
But is it really elitist to allow people that have like 10+ unactivated wins, are constantly rude or that have me blacklisted to win something from me?
Compare it to giving out $100 bills on the street to strangers, i would refuse ones that call me jerk, or give away that money to someone else in his/her name etc etc. What a small group does is like handing out $100 to only your closest friends.
Anyway i am done, we just have different opinions, shouldn't take so much offense in what i said.
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It was just a tongue in cheek remark as you seem to be overly concerned about how others choose to create their giveaways. I'm not particularly interested or concerned about the amount of people you have blacklisted.
I have to say that your analogy about only handing out $100 bills to your closest friends doesn't really drive home your point :P
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And you made the remark for if my blacklist count was high you could accuse me of elitism there, like we probably won't care for eachothers, but i don't even have you blacklisted (i did remove you from my whitelist not because of this discussion itself, but the group thing from lately).
One could easily comment me for making alot of invite only giveaways lately but i can't afford much and a small quantity really likes my jigidi's and other puzzles, but atleast they are open to anyone still.
It's definitely not a hobby, and like i do this daily, no you created a specific thread about a problem about how you make alot! of group giveaways lately, that aren't big enough to get you enough entries, so you are forced to redo them all manually, so many that's why you are seeking a script for.
Don't be suprised someone is giving you an "obvious" answer, you didn't had to respond with a cheek remark then either, somehow it seemed to have hit a nerve.
Only / most so you really want to bicker over details in wording now? Again i rephrase 60-70% (probably more) of your are groups, and several high levels over the past month, your past doesn't change that, or you suddenly go all public again, period, next week? No.
Groups you never gave me an answer about to how large (or small) those other groups are, what those groups are about, and why you feel the need to pass such a large quantity over in those groups.
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yes, i used to run into this issue, or even worse.. less entries then copies with re-roll requests that couldn't be re-rolled (that's a massive pain as it takes admin to remove entries/winners and that takes ~6months)
the easiest solution is tack on another group or whitelist in order to increase entrances like lugum stated. i haven't had the issue since those 4x re-rolls that couldn't be re-rolled after adding more groups to enter into them.
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If a giveaway fails I tend to remake it in a different group, add whitelist, make it a public one or directly gift it to someone :P
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I've had very little experience with group gifting but even some of the groups where I'm a member that are supposed to be "particular" of what to enter are not so much. There's always the black hole of public giveaways to swallow everything otherwise unworthy :)
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If you know these games are owned or are just a bundle trash some group might not like then why not making a giveaway shared with some groups at the very beginning? Afaik most of the groups require some giveaways only if they are ubundled and usually cost at least $10. Unless it is all about in-group ratio. Unfortunately I don't know any script like that so just a curious bump from me :)
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I usually check how many in a particular group already owns a game before creating a giveaway and I have a somewhat floating limit of 33% or less owned for creating a giveaway. I'm mostly interested in bundled games, or rather I usually only enter giveaways for bundled games and I've particularly joined some groups with a bundled theme.
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Okay, it makes sense now :) Thanks for a reply! :)
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I couldn't find an exact script, but maybe the giveaway template from ESGST can help you with that?
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/TDyzv/userscript-esgst-v53-new-giveaway-error-search-links-pinned-giveaways-button
https://github.com/revilheart/ESGST/blob/master/README.md#giveaway-templates
You can "create" a giveaway and enter/choose as much as you like, then save that as a template for future use.
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Yes, I recently "discovered" this script and those templates. They are very helpful but I was hoping that my problem of reposting was common enough that someone had scripted a button, or something, to populate a giveaway page with the key and game from an older failed giveaway.
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i'm not a script creator, but trying to think about it as one i don't think it's easily feasible. beyond the elitism/favoritism moral issues some would debate, it additionally would be difficult to distinguish whether you already reposted the GAs or not. for instance when you pressed the "find unsent/unused keys" button or whatever that im imagining, it would end up going thru all the pages on your /created page and extract those keys to prep for reuse, it can't tell what all was already re-posted by you & you'd easily mistakenly recreate used key GAs. it would almost make the whole process more complex then just going thru the recently ended GAs that didn't get delivered.
a site implementation on the other hand would/could certainly work. (cause it can also compare the actual key inside the keyfield without requesting every GA winner page) ^^
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I would find the failed ones myself, it's just the copy paste process I was hoping someone had solved a bit more efficiently that my current method. I quite honestly fail to see any elitism/favourism moral issue with a question like this but then again I'm probably not as good as the people that does :P
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i'm not trying to say they are or aren't, like i said before i've ran into the issue before as well, so absolutely no judgment coming from me on this. but yes, there are people who would consider a script that's sole purpose was to locate group GAs that didn't get entries as elitism towards a small number of people. so script creators would have to deal with other people feeling like they are promoting small groups and elitism.
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like i said, no judgement here though, and there are other similarly moral debatable scripts, so it's not a big deal there... script creators won't care, that's why i said "beyond that". xD
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I'm not getting any judgement from your post and if I made it sound like that I apologize. I'm probably a bit annoyed which makes my people skills even more lacking than usual. oh well, I'm not really asking anyone to make a script for me, I just figured this "problem" was common enough that one already existed.
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afaik no nothing to help that process at all has been made, but i think i just thought of a super easy way for a script creator to implement something to assist with.
rather than having it do a ton of request thru pages to locate them for you, you'd have to still find them for yourself, but just a "re-create/modify" button that creates a pre-templated new giveaway with the fields filled out
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Yes, this is what my, admittedly limited, imagination also came up with. A button on that wold populate a new giveaway with the appropriate parameters from the failed one.
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i love brainstorming the howtos of script creation even though i don't know code for crap. ^^
i tend to do what i did here though and think about it in the more complex way that wont work first, then break it down into a simple method that would work.... one of these days i'll learn to think simple first. xD
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From time to time it seems to be a hit and miss with some, I usually check with the group wishlist thingy beforehand if I'm not sure about them... granted, it's a bit tedious but it at least saves me some hassle. I wanted to post the same thing as Riedy did, maybe someone with a little bit more knowledge about scripting could create something that reads out the info of a particular GA and recreates a template with it upon the press of a button, so that you could edit the groups :?
Anyway, I was too tempted to post upon seeing that cute little sloth you have there, so even if it doesn't help you any further, have at least another little fella ;>.
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Thank you :)
Edit: In hindsight I should have been a lot more specific. I'm just trying to find out if there's something scripted to copy the relevant information from a failed giveaway as template for a new, particularly the key and game as I have other scrips for the rest. The intention is to make the new giveaways public, in case this matter to someone.
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How about instead of reposting giveaway for garbage noone wants to enter in your giveaway group where everyone masturbates to ingroup ratio so they dont enter, you actually give away good games? No need to use bots to recreate your giveaway nobody will enter anyway
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Sweet Jesus, what's with all the assumptions and judgements today? I'm sorry if my giveaways doesn't meet your particular taste or standards
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My particular taste
Hurr durr i need a bot because people dont enter my giveaways with 0.001$ per key games
Kay
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Rather than telling you how to get more entries (which I'm pretty sure you are already able to do), I have a suggestion on how to avoid giveaways in which your particular group is not interested. There are various websites and scripts which will check for you to see how many people in your group own a particular game or have it on their wishlist. I find such tools invaluable in determining whether or not I should be making a specific giveaway for whichever group I wish to gift.
Here is just one example. There are others.
http://giveawaygroups.gilead.at/home/page
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I'm debating with myself on how to respond to this without sounding ungrateful. It's not going very well however so I'll just spit it out I guess. I am aware and I mostly use a group tool to determine how many already own a particular game with a somewhat floating limit of 33% ownership before I create a giveaway, as I posted earlier responding to lovol.
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This is another annoying thing about these groups: just because someone doesn't own a game, it does not mean they will enter a giveaway for it (or are somehow obligated to). Sometimes not owning a game means that you don't wish to own it.
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True. I've had plenty of giveaways where I expected 50 entries and ended up with less than ten. P
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OK, then it would seem you already have that covered. I missed lovol's response, which is why I'm repeating the advice. Feel free to overlook the redundancy. )
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Oh, so you're that person.
Pro tips:
- gift exchange groups are lame
- no one in these groups will want your shitty bundle games
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I've recently been creating more group giveaways than usual and I've run in to the, for me unfamiliar, problem of getting no entries for some of them. Reposting giveaways has thus become a bit laborious and since I imagine I can't be the only one with this particular problem there's at least some hope someone a little more industrious/knowledgeable have created a scripted helper. Thank you in advance for any suggestions :)
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