The license to use the game becomes my property (the consumer) at the moment of its purchase. Epic isn't even a party to the agreement (like Valve with Steam). The agreement is between me and the game publisher.
I bought the game legally!!! Yes, for $0, but the value of the legendery status cost $29 on the day of my purchase. In other words, Epic has to give me back $29 if they want to remove the game from my account. And that's not all, because this is only a refund of the purchase price. All owners of the game are entitled to compensation for the inability to use the game license from November 1, 2025 until the possibility of re-purchasing the license is restored.
And one more thing because some people say that the game had no right to be sold. When you buy a TV in an electronics store, do you ask the seller if TVs are stolen?
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but the value of the legendery status cost $29 on the day of my purchase. In other words, Epic has to give me back $29 if they want to remove the game from my account.
They offer that though, if you check the picture in the OP.
All owners of the game are entitled to compensation for the inability to use the game license from November 1, 2025 until the possibility of re-purchasing the license is restored
Are they though?
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It's more so that he wants be refunded (or given) $29 store credit since he no longer has access to the legendary pack, something he got for free from the Epic promotion and was probably never going to use. Rather than the more normal step on EGS refunding what you personally paid for the item.
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And so what if I got it for free? This is a product that has its value. If you inherit a house worth a million usd for free, how much is it worth? Zero or a million usd? And if this house burns down, for example, do you lose zero or a million usd?
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It's $0 to you, a million to epic cause they paid the cost for the product for you to have it not you, they should get $29 for sending it back to the dev. By the same flawed logic you're using. You're not selling your key back to the dev because the dev isn't buying it back, they're taking it back in the case of dmca because you weren't supposed to have it no matter what you paid for it, nor is epic buying your key back they're revoking it, epic is crediting people who actually spent their own money on it. You spent $0 cause you got it for free cause you're a brokie like most of us or didn't care for the game enough to get it till it was free, so you get credited what you spent, aka $0, not $29 because that was retail price not what your purchase price was.
Technically getting the game to Jupiter along with a computer and getting it playable will cost more than the entire value of earth right now, but ain't no alien claiming some refund cause he never got a chance to play it but was entitled to the free copy years ago nor am I going to claim that refund ammount because on Jupiter it costs zinga zangs bazillion dollaroos. That brainrot is worth getting laughed at.
Your mentality falls together with that russian streamer that sued twitch and the russian gov that agreed and thought twitch would have to pay more than all of the money on earth just cause it accumulated over time at whatever rate. If you could buy things on sale or discount and return them for full price endlessly without ever having to stop I'd be richer than elon musk in a day buying the most expensive thing on earth for a discount and returning it instantly for a profit to earn free money. Obviously that's not how the world works. Wherever you get your logic get a trashcan and throw that entire place in it because it taught you nothing.
Cringe.
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I'll be sure to use your tactic next time I refund a game on Steam. I don't care I got it for 95% off, this game is worth full MSRP value and I demand that much back!
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And one more thing because some people say that the game had no right to be sold. When you buy a TV in an electronics store, do you ask the seller if TVs are stolen?
I don't think that example is doing your point any favours. Not sure about other countries (and obvious disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer) but in Germany, if you buy a TV (or other physical object) and it turns out to be stolen, you have to return it to the rightful owner. You can get the money you paid refunded from whomever you bought it from.
Of course, with the "object" in question being the licence to a game in form of downloadable data, and copyright claims being somewhat more complicated than mere theft, not everything might be so easily applicable here, but to use your metaphor: Epic sold you a game unrightfully, you have to "return" it (lose the licence), and you are entitled to a refund amounting to how much you've paid - which is what Epic is already offering. If that amount is 0$, then that will be your refund.
Oh, and as an addendum (which, most likely, won't apply here): If you do have reason to believe that you're about to buy stolen goods, and you buy them anyways, you're potentially liable, as well.
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If you inherit a house worth a million usd for free, how much is it worth? Zero or a million usd? And if this house burns down, for example, do you lose zero or a million usd?
It doesn't matter that Epic sold us the product for 0, the product still has its value of 29 USD. By illegally taking away my game license, they are not taking away 0 USD but 29 USD because that's how much I would have to pay to buy the legendary pack again.
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You're moving farther and farther away from the actual case you're trying to make. Regardless of the answers to your questions - you didn't inherit the legendary pack, you got it as part of a promotion. We're not talking about a physical object (and something as legally complicated as a house is another entirely different matter than the aforementioned TV), we're talking about the DLC of a game in form of data to which you have aquired a licence. And it is not burning down, it is being removed from your library for legal reasons.
Imagine if I kicked someone in the balls for no reason, and then argued: "If I want to leave a room, and the door is stuck, do I not have the right to exert some force against it by kicking it, so that it can open and I can leave?" That may or may not be true, but it has absolutely no bearing on the actual case.
And it doesn't matter how much value it has, whether it's 29$ , a million, or 48.34 trillion dollars: You got it for free. The relevant question is: What did you lose?
You paid 29$, got the game, and get to keep it - what did you lose? Nothing, you got what you paid for, and with the legal transaction both parties agreed that the (licence to the) game equals the value of the money.
You paid 29$, got the game and have to return it - what did you lose? The 29$ you paid, and depending on the circumstances, you might be entitled to get them refunded.
You paid 0$, got the game and have to return it - you answer for me this time: What did you lose?
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Epic is doing it "out of consideration" not because they have to. We have no confirmation steam will have to do anything unless they want to do it out of consideration. At the moment there doesn't seem to be dmca's out for it otherwise steam would've already taken it down right?
Read on the steam forums that this was apparently set already in February, so it's old news. Don't know too much about that tho.
Something along the lines of these devs having been caught for stealing secrets, and having to pay a $5 million fine for it, however there not being enough proof to show that these are related enough or copied games to what it was supposedly infringing on. So from what I read, it lost that cause, but won the cause of the secrets stealing. Maybe that's why epic didn't take it well and decided to delist it first, and now remove it?
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Here's an article from March 06, 2025 that will give some details as to what's going on. I've also provided the email that was sent out by Epic Games below.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/epic-games-store-pulls-free-to-play-dark-and-darker-as-copyright-dispute-continues
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