Hi everyone,

First I want to mention that I only have few experience in trading. I have traded a couple of times and the tradings have always gone good so you start to trust people - until someone comes and uses you!

Here is it how it was going: chatlog

Where can I report him? I've never gone through this so I don't know where to report. Steam? Does they even care?

Thank you in advance

Edit:
I went first because I've got keys and he got a tradable gift
Second, his steam profile site was ten pages full of good reputates

9 years ago*

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First of all, reddit does have flair for rep. Secondly, this is a key scam which is not investigated by Steamrep and Steam will not doing anything about it. I believe the most you can do is to attempt to find his steamtrades and/or reddit profile (if they exist) and leave negative rep. For reddit, keep chat log open, take as many screenshots as possible.

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I've made screenshot, but snap, I'm not registered at reddit

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It's okay, he's probably lying about having a profile there anyways.

You can try reporting him to Steam from his profile. They probably won't look at it, but there's always the chance.

9 years ago
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....why did you go first? He had no rep to speak of.

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because I had keys and he a tradable gift. I've used to do it like this

9 years ago
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Established rep always takes priority regardless of what you're trading.

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If you have a lot more rep than the other guy, don't go first, doesn't matter if he has giftable games, he can simply not give them to you as is the case here. If he refuses to go first, say goodbye to him and delete him, I do it even for bundle trades.

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never go first

9 years ago
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So then no one ever goes first so no trades are ever gonna happen :O

Going first isn't the real mistake.. no really checking on the guy is. I just wouldn't trade with a guy telling me he uses Reddit and tells me to check his Steam Profile for Rep. And his other mistake is he gave way too many games for a 2002 $5 game, even if they were Origin bundle games.

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A noob at being scammed? well, don't worry, you'll get better at it eventually.

Wait ...

9 years ago
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LOL, that's a good one :)

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Why did you give all your keys first? You could give one or two of them to him. Then he give the gift and at the end you give the rest of keys. I think there's nothing you can do. Sorry :(

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sorry about that man, i use to do the same thing going first when it's keys : gift... (it's really bad when thats happens)... just a question,Cossacks? that game? or the complete one? seems a lots of games for that one..
PS: (sorry i'm still noob on trade games, not so sure about prices and those kind of thing)

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yes, this cossacks. I'm not a profit trader and origin codes are not so value on steamgifts hence I thought the deal would be fair for both of us. So, double stupid you mean?

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no no, no stupid, i was just curious, because the price of games all over steamtrades it's madness, some people ask a few ref for a game someone else 3 or 4 keys for the same game. and as i said before i'm a complete noob on this and just trying to learn something.
edit: a game it's a game, if you really want to play it its the same steam, origin etc..

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Do you have Enhanced Steam installed? Based on the name you have in your chatlog, that user has 31 negatives on Steamtrades and is suspended. With Enhanced Steam, you can link directly back to their Steamtrades profile, to help thwart impersonators and scammers.

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no, sounds pretty good. where can I get it?

9 years ago
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http://www.enhancedsteam.com/

Like I said, if I found the user that I think you traded with, then that's definitely not someone to be trading with. Never trust any "rep" comments people have posted on their Steam profiles. Positive comments are easily faked and negative profile comments can simply be deleted.

Steamtrades profiles could still be manipulated by a bit of work, but that's why I only trade with people that have a lot of positive feedback, with few or zero negative feedback, and only with accounts that have feedback going back at least a few months (to prevent against chargeback scammers).

9 years ago
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thank you. that is a great addon. I've spotted more accounts from him, using the same picture and the same country. There are also reports on his fake accounts

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I've encountered a number of impostors, thanks to that add-on. Before trading, always make sure that the person you're talking with and the Steamtrades account are connected. Usually, impostors will add you after you make an offer on someone's listing, so make sure everything connects back to the account to posted to.

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Do not trust profile reps. They are just fake. If you see someone saying give me +rep because of trade,DO not rep him in return. Report instead. Source from steamrep thread.

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so, when do I exactly rep someone +? If the trade was successful or it was outstanding good? I usually rate every successful trade with a +

9 years ago
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what, yeah you can decline, but report for steam profile reps? lmao

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I mean if user asks for +, you must screenshot it,then send it to steamrep or its communities so they can atleast put the user into caution state. Asking for rep is never cool,and heres the link where the source from http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/what-constitutes-reputation.12391/

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I always ask people who I trade with to leave +rep in my Steamtrades profile so my rep grows and people know they can trust me. Don't see what's wrong with asking them to leave +rep after we have traded...

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omg :d

9 years ago
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lol

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Your own fault. Also - way too many game keys for the game you asked for. And since these were Origin keys Steam won't do anything. Didn't happen in trade window so they don't care. Also, no calling out people.

And yes, he should've gone first with his game since it was tradable gift and his nickname didn't look very trustable either.

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You've had a lot of people point out some of the obvious, but this entire problem could have been avoided if you had just done a small amount of of checking and asking the right questions.

  • You had 1 major screwup I see in your chatlog that happened early in the convo and was poorly handled. You never ask how he found you. He says he doesn't use Steamtrades, but if thats the only place you have your ad up then you'd have immediately caught him in a lie. While you can browse and search Steamtrades without joining, you can't view a person's profile to get their Steam profile link.

  • Enhanced Steam is an essential tool. It's good for anyone, but for traders its a necessity. This (my profile) is how the sidebar looks in Enhanced Steam. It's not going to protect you all of the time, but for you, you'd never have gotten ripped off considering this guy is a huge scammer (-31 on Steamtrades) and he has not bothered to try and hide himself.

  • Rep on a Steam profile page means NOTHING. Yes, he very well could have had ten pages worth of good rep before he decided to thieve, but you can delete any comment made on your own profile. I'd bet some of those -31 left negative feedback on his profile, hes just able to delete it. If I had been in your position and he could not provide feedback from anywhere outside his Steam profile, I'd have immediately told him I wasnt going first. Just because someone has keys vs a gift doesn't mean shit if one party doesn't have at least some verifiable feedback. And, yes, Reddit has the Flair system as has been mentioned. Look here. If you hover over a persons SN on any of the posted threads, you'll see (20+ trades) etc. Click the name and it brings up detailed feedback. Basically EVERY trading site has some sort of feedback system. Even forum systems like CAG and Steam Forums trading subforum has a method of feedback.

As for reporting, I suggest you do it anywhere you can, Steam, SteamREP, and make a scammer warning post on ST (or find one as he probably has one there already lol). Report him here on SG as well. Pull up his profile here and use the report button for it. There's really not anywhere else I can think of off hand.

You're not going to get anything back for this and SteamREP probably will not mark him as a scammer, but again, hes probably already reported on SteamRep, look for a thread already about him and add to it. Even if nothing happens to him, you still need to report him wherreever you can just to help protect the rest of the community. The biggest issue with this is obviously you lost game keys and for another service no less. The one bright spot is this guy has been REALLY busy recently ripping people off, so contact some of them via the scammers feedback on ST and see if you guys can gang together and report him en masse. If a lot of people go to Steam about one person, they could do something.

Also, edit your Pastebin of his SN. Its considered calling out on SG and not allowed. Last thing you want after being ripped off is being suspended from here or ST, and yes, if you get suspended on SG, you're suspended on ST too.

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