https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fhjoyMgqUg
Kamikaze drone in action
Doing irreversible damage to a tank crew sipping drinks on top of their tank.
RIP little drone, you died doing a worthy job.
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you are free to leave, if you can't stand the horror
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What kind of guilt should be proven in your opinion? They didn't surrender, they didn't desert, they actively participate in an invasion.
This might be shocking news to you but we actually mean it if we want to see Ukraine triumph over the Russian forces. That implies them being eliminated is good news to us. That's all, that's war. I'd rather see them dead than cause harm to Ukrainian civilians or prolong the war in general.
Regarding guilt and war crimes, this will become relevant after the war ended.
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Well put Golwar.
The more and faster Russian soldiers become irreversibly damaged the faster this whole war will be over.
I have no sympathy at all for the Russian invader, after all it is a war they started.
If a Russian soldier puts down his arms, I say treat him fairly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQFZs1HCZg
Look at that precision!
Not a single Ukrainian chicken was hurt in that strike.
Showing the horrors of war is bad?
What does your State media show? It is all rainbows and sunshine over in Ukraine, still continue with the "we are the righteous side in this war".
I post these "horrors" here in the hopes some other Russian or pro Russian can see it and perhaps adjust their views on the injustice that is brought upon the Ukrainians.
Or someone finds the video link here and reposts it somewhere else which in turn informs others that it isn't all rainbows and sunshine for the Russian army.
Just because you would love for all of us to stay quiet and not say anything about the war, just talk about flower girl.
Doesn't mean we have to seeing how we luckily live in a free world.
And no one is forcing you to click any links.
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No blood, no corpses, there was a warning at the start of the video.
So what nonsense are you talking about?
Your personal propaganda?
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Awww did little Bazilus missed where it said Kamikaze drone, irreversible damage to Russians and RIP little hero drone.
I am assuming the educated people here can deduct what the video is about.
Are you feeling ill?
You are hitting below par today.
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Were you expecting rainbows and butterflies upon seeing the word Kamikazi.
You seem to have missed all the signs that were clearly there and you choose to ignore.
I can explain it to you but I cant understand it for you...
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Oh don't you worry. I don't speak too highly of my own education.
But at least my moral compass is in excellent working condition.
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After seeing a lot of comments, I am not surprised.
You have doubts about anything that isn't USSR so much is clear.
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всё что ты говоришь это фейки из вк и оправдания руских
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Ну как и российские Т-64 уничтоженные в большом количестве. Правда есть одна мелочь, они с 2012 года, те, что остались, то стоят на хранении, но они массово почему-то появились на Украине в войсках ВС РФ, как и ракетная установка Точка-У. Были бы ещё белорусы, то это бы объяснило, но проблема в том, что их нет, а вот у России Точку-У нет.
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вашим оркозаврам доставили хлам, их разъебывают, можешь и дальше маняврировать
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I got to tell,
He has told me that he was going to ignore me and my nonsense too.
I think his love for me is stronk. :DDD
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well, isn't that good, if he's ignoring everyone in this thread?
so he can talk to himself in the future
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lol doesn't matter if these specifically are murderers... every single russian military member on ukrainian soil is a valid target. They are part of a hostile invasion force.
If they don't like to get killed they are free to surrender.
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yes, i very well support getting rid of russian soldiers on ukrainian soil. Doesn't matter if they leave on their own or die.
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so just humanity for russians, huh?
There's a simple thing: if you attack someone, don't cry if they retaliate.
as I said, i don't mind if they surrender and/or leave in peace, but as they don't I'm very ok with them dying instead....
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here comes the master of distortion again, he wasn't talking about you
you can understand from the context, that he meant the russian invasors
proofs once again, that you aren't that educated as you always pretend to be
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c'mon spam this faster, i need more links for the ticket
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you should read what he says, because it's true once more XD
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it's not true, when he talks about ignoring me, but always annoys me with his spam answer, this is not ignoring
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was talking to him, as he's ignoring someone that's explaining how it is actually meant
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oh, but it's not like he's ignoring me, he just refuses to acknowledge any of my points, answers with his spam and stay narrow-minded
and i think i can throw some links around too, not repeating and much more useful than thems
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/p3zPFGi
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you have to set this into relation, he might even be quite educated in comparison to the folks over there.... that would explain a lot ;)
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ah, makes sense, but he always compares himself to the users in this thread and this makes him look stupid
look how he even avoids to discuss with me, as he recognized, he can't compete with me
and i wasn't the one, who bragged all the time, being the smart one
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the great thing about intelligence is that everybody thinks he has enough of it ;)
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Not what excelite said at all.
You are twisting word and attribute things to people which they never claimed.
Do you need to do this in order for you to keep the story going in your head that the West is evil and Russia are the good guys?
Brainwashed by Russian State media I tell you.
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well, with the trolls you simply need to ignore the word twisting... just makes me smile to think about how hard the hit will be when they get back to reality ;)
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classic Bazillus, distorting, deflecting, flooding, not answering questions and defending Kremlin, what do you expect?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQbIEKbZyc
A heavy call from a soldier to his wife.
Very Insightful.
On extra note at 3:25
He talks about casualties in certain brigades
3000 ish KIA soldiers they say. Analyzed data they say, everything else is lies they say.
Just adding his numbers from 3 brigades alone crosses the 3000 mark....
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because russian propaganda is making up a lot of things, doesn't mean everyone else does the same
do you ask your state media of facts and proofs, i guess not, because their lies would be debunked easily
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I know that you don't want this news, but it will still be Deputy Commander Azov speaks perfect Russian, and he gives primary testimony very willingly and gives an affirmative answer to the question whether there were mercenaries or not.
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---You have seen the Kamikaze video?
That Russian tank crew was blown into bits, I am pretty sure whoever is going to have to clean that up and bury them wont be able to say with certainty which body part belongs to which person.
---"Siverskyi Donets river Brigade destroyed" over 70 Russian vehicles destroyed and about 1000 soldiers/ bridge teams KIA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU-KFiNHAbM
--- This Adult Russian soldier talks about his experience cleaning up torn up bodies and destroyed Brigades.
Strange how what the man is saying in the video can easily be supported with evidence.
Even a small part of you should be thinking by now ... "what if my State media is hiding/distorting the truth..."
Which doesn't mean that what the man in the video says is 100% accurate but the take away from it should be that it is bad over there for the Russians and not glory glory rainbow and sunshine as you think and want us to think.
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"Can I ask what kind of foreigners?"
The foreign countries paying for Russian gas and oil one would assume.
10.000 Rubles converted into USD obviously.
Dont ask me why they are getting paid in USD.
You think he is not tormented. Did you even listen and hear his voice.
Its pretty clear that he has seen some nasty things.
Your last line is priceless.
Seeing how hard you twist and bend and try to misunderstand him to get to your details to fit.
How sad.
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No I think I understand well enough.
He was promised 10000 rubles per day but he isnt receiving that amount and he thinks he gets screwed over by government because the pay is in usd which would mean 178 usd at the moment.
I could be wrong but dont think so because your thinking doesnt make sense at all numberwise.
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Logic and common sense.
And I followed the whole conversation so context ....
The words you are looking for are " I was wrong"
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прикинь быть воином дыныэр, тебе отрывает ноги...
А выплат в 3 ляма срублей нет, и тебе собирают жалкие 10к (0,5 доллара по курсу) на "лекарства". Во радость
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we already know that you draw a lot of wrong conclusions, you don't need to point that out each time
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Re: language. It's because we're all a part of a slavic language group, and russian, funnily enough, is not.
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i took a quick look at wikipedia and don't understand it either
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balto-Slavic_languages
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Polish, Ukrainian, Chech, Slovakian, and other languages are a part of the Slavic group, that's why they're easy to understand to the members of other countries. Ukrainan-speaking person could come to these countries and understand at least half of what people are saying, from the start. russian language is not a part of Slavic language group, so they cannot understand most of what's being said in Ukrainian, Polish, and so on. So much for "Slavic russia" lol
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Russian seems to be placed further away than western-slavic languages, which makes it's native speakers not underatand westerners, while the westerners are quite capable of interacting among themselves.
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I can tell you the news if you didn't know, but Western Ukrainian (Galician) is not always understandable to those living in the east of Ukraine due to good borrowings from Polish and German, as well as a little Yiddish. There were just two languages in Ukraine. After 1991, Galician began to be imposed all over Ukraine and it moved into the category of the main ones.
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I didn't have the time to watch the complete video but to answer some of your questions why: History.
Russia has been considered the big brother from the independence against the common enemy the Ottoman Empire, over the common enemy Austria-Hungary and then the common enemy Nazi-Germany. That Tito had a feud with Stalin is pretty much forgotten.
And the orthodox church is relevant in that context too, as Serbia is/was pretty isolated. Surrounded by catholic or islamic forces.
That Ukraine is also slavic and also orthodox isn't really relevant to those people. I mean they can't even tell the irony of the Serbian extreme-right wanting to "de-nazify" Ukraine, so you simply can't expect much reason.
Summed up Serbia is a tragic case. They obviously have a pretty distorted world view, ignoring their own sins and failures, But partly they are indeed the unlucky victims, which only makes their situation worse because it helps solidify a victim mentality that just furthers their isolation.
So they have a lot in common with Russia in that regard too actually, which should explain their bonding.
Ofc all that doesn't apply to all Serbians but it's been a constant issue since the 90s.Source: My own partially Serbian roots
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Serbs are.....special. They see Russia as their big brother that can do no wrong and every bad thing that is written about Putin is just good old western propaganda. Every video has been doctored, every witness is a paid actor etc etc.
They are also incredibly easy to manipulate (can't tell you how many times I heard from them that covid is fake and made by Americans) and due to their eternal hatred for the USA their modus operandi is to see what side the USA is on - so they can pick the opposite
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They are also incredibly easy to manipulate (can't tell you how many times I heard from them that covid is fake and made by Americans) and due to their eternal hatred for the USA their modus operandi is to see what side the USA is on - so they can pick the opposite.
Let's say thanks to "Kosovo" for this and the main locomotive for dragging the United States.
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The Serbs have their own worldview, which does not really coincide with the opinion of other countries. Vutich always said that he would think first of all about his country, and then about the EU. For this, he is not very popular, like Viktor Orban, who won the next election, although they really wanted to remove him. The people in the form of the electorate look at those politicians who protect the people, and not at those who propose to reduce the temperature in winter to 17 degrees or even better to 15 degrees in order to reduce gas consumption (although this will be beaten immediately). If a politician speaks out and says that we will pay less, then this politician will get votes.
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Kissinger says Ukraine should cede territory to Russia to end war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos/
The War in Ukraine Is Getting Complicated, and America Isn’t Ready
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/19/opinion/america-ukraine-war-support.html
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Kissinger said that, but it is not his decision to take.
If Russia keeps the seized territory, we can expect more proxy republics and more "special operations"/wars. The only way to put an end to this situation is to expel the aggressor.
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The New York Times published an article on May 19, and this article is not someone invited with his opinion, but comes from the publisher itself. And as you may recall, they are more the mouthpiece of liberals, not Republicans, and they consider articles against Russia to be a very good reason for printing, even if it is a lie.
Maybe it was a touchstone to see the reaction?
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Yeah, maybe that's a touchstone to see if Ukraine should give up.
Perhaps the blown up Russian tanks are touchstones suggesting that the Russian army should leave.
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did i already mentioned the stubbornness of russians i've heard so much about, they're still trying to rush B, smart orcz
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Why, it's not required. Geyropa herself must come to the conclusion that a shot with the help of sanctions is a shot in the leg. Well, if you wanted to kill your economy for the sake of the USA, then Knock yourself out! We will not grieve about this.
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A russian talks about Economy haha
Just go to Mega Park in Moskow and see how wonderful it is now. 90% of the shops are closed.
How is our economy compared to yours? Strange that Milk, Tomatoes and POTATOS almost trippled in Price? Russians are unable to fill their baskets. Welcome to reality you stupid Kreml Bot
And you call Europe "Geyropa"... You belong to Europe or are you mentally challenged and didnt know that?
Also Stop beeing a Homophobic Turd, Kid
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Oh, yes, I need to go to the region, if I can buy it with delivery. It makes sense to run around the city if almost everything can be ordered (you can also order clothes, but it's better to try them on in the store before buying) with delivery. And quite a lot of shopping and entertainment complexes are located in the city itself.
In what 3 times the price of milk has risen. About 150 rubles for 1.5 liters of Selected milk (3.4-4.5% fat content). https://www.perekrestok.ru/cat/c/114/moloko
On vegetables. No, such a rise in price, if it's not Eggplant, the rest is within the seasonal increase. https://www.perekrestok.ru/cat/c/150/ovosi
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What glibberish nonsense are you talking..
You are talking too much shit and you are spreading too many lies.
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Well, if you're too lazy to go, then it's not my fault. Or why I brought the store with prices. 147 rubles 99 kopecks there is also the price of milk.
Although you may not believe it, it's your right. After all, those living in Germany know the state of prices in Russia better than those living in Russia.
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dude are you actually dumb?
i watch people from russia, that live in Moscow and they show all these places.
and where am i lazy to go to? are you stupid.
you are just a lazy ass kreml bot
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So we admit a mistake about prices. If you argue, the receipts from the store will not lie. The main thing was to report a 3-fold increase in prices, let it be a lie, but you don't expect anything else from the Europeans, as I realized, then all the media exaggerate the problems in Russia, but downplay their own. I'm already used to it.
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And where does this data come from? If you have already written, then attach the data source.
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you're playing the dumb again?
c'mon just google it
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I looked, I didn't find it. I saw about the increase in October 2021, but as you can see from the price from the store (link to the Intersection), the price of tomatoes fell from 460 rubles to 150 rubles.
That's why I asked for a link to the latest data.
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i can't see your store, because it blocks me
if you can't find it, maybe the russian censorship is well in place
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Actually, I wrote about the fact that the prices were high, now they are lower. I'll take screenshots of the store and try to find a resource where I'll post the picture.
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according to that article tomatoes price fell by 5%
https://eurasiabusinessnews.com/2022/04/20/russian-annual-inflation-for-the-week-hit-17-62%EF%BF%BC/
i wonder which prices went up with 18% inflation
BBC says onions and sugar
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60856873
Borscht inflation, haha:
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/3/30/borscht-inflation-cost-of-making-russias-staple-dish-spikes
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https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/78_13-05-2022.html this is for April, and this is for March https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/58_08-04-2022.html A very big increase. FAS had to intervene. And so, if the product depends on the euro exchange rate, then it has soared to 150 or even 200 rubles for 1 euro, and now it is 69.4353 (as of 05/28/2022), which leads to a decrease, and the euro exchange rate is growing, it was previously 57.2910, but this rate is not very interesting to the central bank. And they intervened that they first recalculated prices at the new exchange rate, and when the exchange rate declined, they did not recalculate.
At the moment, there are quite a lot of imported vegetables, which just depend on the exchange rate. Beets or the harvest of 2021 or imported from Egypt
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uhm, didn't we talked about inflation and not about exchange rate?
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When buying goods in which there is no import component, then it is appropriate to talk about inflation, but with imported goods, the price depends not only on the cost of the goods themselves, but also how much money should be used to buy one unit of money to pay for the goods.
Imported goods at the rate of Seventy units, then for the final buyer these seventy units will cost with the addition of transport components, taxes, (there are still several components, but you can not take this into account now, due to the fact that it is not necessary to understand the answer) and a certain amount of the seller's earnings. If the exchange rate rises to one Hundred units, then the price increases for the final buyer, but at the same time the price of the goods in purchasing units does not change. If the mode of transportation is changing and new ways of bringing are needed, then this is another factor for a possible price increase.
That's why, in addition to inflation, I also cited the exchange rate.
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Yes, the main thing before shooting is to apply Z and immediately a tank that was not in the Russian army immediately gets there. T-64, if you did not understand. Since 2012, only for storage, and a lot of them have been attributed to Russia. After the video is on YouTube and you can show the victory, you still don't need to check for this, Twitter or YouTube is enough.
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Of course, no Russian tanks were destroyed. The longer the special operation, the better.
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you didn't know russian tanks are indestructible and all footage is fake, except the russian fake footage, which is real
these vatniks are clowns
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Well, you can recall the M1A1 Abrams, which was destroyed with a Cord machine gun, and not by the crew, but by shooting at the tank itself. The tank just burned down.
This is not a joke. M1 did not really fit due to the fact that the main power plant is a turbine and to drive it when stopping at the base, for the sake of communication and the operation of auxiliary equipment, it did not work out very well economically, and the service life of the tank itself falls before repair. After that, they made a modification by adding an APU, but they did not come up with anything better than to hang the towers from behind and cover them with 10 mm steel. After such defeats, sometimes they managed to extinguish the fire, then they changed it first to batteries, and then they completely redesigned the power supply scheme in the parking lot.
And so there is no indestructible, it's just not necessary to attribute losses to others, those that were lost by the opposite side. I am against attributions.
The DPR and the LPR do not belong to Russia.
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Reality. The case of the tank burning was real. It was in Iraq.
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as i said, you don't understand context
and you were the only one talking about that Abrams, no one asked
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No, in this case it is said that there is nothing indestructible. I am not saying that the T-72 or T-80 cannot be destroyed, there are examples of destruction, there is nothing to deny the obvious. I'm talking about the destruction of what originally did not exist, but which was attributed.
It's just that the Abrams is considered the most protected tank, but a small design flaw led to unplanned losses, but which has already been fixed at the moment.
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dude get lost...you dont understand a single thing. everything is out of context.
READ....OUT OF CONTEXT
go catch some kreml news for your indoctrinated brain that looks like a raisin!
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Yes, there is nothing to say, there are threats and sending. Well, don't pull it out. This is just 10 words with prepositions. If they ask for clarification, then it should be done.
At first it was about the postscript in losses, then when the inaccuracy was indicated, it was about invulnerability, after clarifying that this does not exist, and then you appeared.
And what is not clear to you by the fact that there is no completely invulnerable tank and just running in combat conditions allows you to find these errors and solve them to reduce the loss of equipment?
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you really don't understand context, don't you?
we talked about T-64s and i was referring to it all the time and as you said footage of destroyed T-64s with Z are fake, because they aren't or weren't in the service of russia, i draw the conclusion, that every destroyed tank with Z is thus fake too, making the joke about indestructable russians tanks
with semantics i meant your distinction between the separatists and russia, they fight on the same side, have painted Zs on their vehicles and probably have the same goals, i don't see a distinction justified
and even if these T-64s came from the seperatist or were captured units, they are listed as russian losses here:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
but we already had that discussion about russian T-64s in that branch with the prank video of someone said he was eating a russian soldier and it isn't fun to explain jokes, it makes them unfun
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No, I'm just talking about the T-64, It's not necessary to generalize all tanks. About the T-72 and T-80 it is clarified.
If you put a Z on the destroyed equipment, then you can transfer your losses to the other side. Western readers will still not really understand the difference due to the fact that this tank was made in the USSR and it could be on both sides of the confrontation, but in 2012 they began to be transferred to conservation, due to the fact that the Malyshev Kharkov plant did them, and this is in Ukraine and to ensure uninterrupted operation, then they began to be sent for storage due to the optional availability of spare parts for repair . Therefore, it is possible to take it to the other side, anyway, almost all readers, except those who follow the technology of another country, will not understand this inaccuracy.
Due to the fact that the LPR and the DPR did not recognize, and they do not necessarily recognize, after all, Russia is not the United States, which forced Kosovo to be recognized, then these tanks are attributed to Russia, although in fact this is not accurate. But then it turns out that this site recognized de facto that this is the territory of Russia, not Ukraine. And why are there no statements on this by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine?
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I didn't say that, I'm talking about the T-64, not about all tanks. And so all the media always lower their losses, but at the same time increase the enemy's losses. So you can raise morale in the rear and show about it. that there are victories or that the situation is not so deplorable.
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all the media? why is it necassary to raise moral in countries not involved in the war?
your arguments lacking coherence here
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Not all media, parts don't care about this conflict. In accordance with the current political situation in the country. If you show that the wrestlers are fighting a successful fight, then you can also spend about the words of support with the implementation of the support itself. And due to the fact that the enemy is equated with demons, it is possible to show that they suffer great losses and the warriors of light win.
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Additional allocations to support military spending and cover up short-sighted economic policy. If we talk about something else, then you can not deduce the bad in the country itself.
And it always works with everyone, except those who do not read the latest news and simply do not watch them, but live as a hermit.
But half of the answer was earlier.
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your whole point was about the losses and how their numbers are made up to raise morale
i don't think most people in the democratic world are aware of the exact losses and that it would influence their morale, because before morale comes into play, we already agreed that the invasion of a sovereign country is a crime and we should give this country our full support, maybe you mixed up morality or ethics with troop morale or fighting spirit?
We don't participate actively in the conflict, so fighting morale doesn't matter
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next they bring T-34, because they've beaten nazis once
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So there is no T-64 in Russia. Since 2012. But there were still in Ukraine.
And is it difficult to read my post?
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/yf4w1TE
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Along with the fact that they removed the age limit for applying for military really does not show anything is going by the plan....
What could possibly go wrong by sending 50 year old tanks which are undermanned by incapable personnel
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It's not just about personnel.
Most of its modifications don't have composite armor, active protection system or reactive armor. They don't have an ammo autoloader. They are are underammunitioned, according to officials back from 2013 (when they wanted to scrap these tanks completely).
There are rumors they are planning on using these tanks in a hull-down position (as turrets). Personally I don't think that's a good idea and it's way easier and cheaper to have an infantry squad with autocannon but who am I to understand such complicated things?
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All that can be seen is how the tanks are being driven. It is not very clear from where and it is not very clear where, they are just being taken.
Photos with tanks at the train station. And it can't be a photo, before the army of the Russian Armed Forces came there, it can also be. The city is clean, but all Ukrainian channels are yelling that the city was shot at. I wish I could get the original photo. There you can get EXIFS, and use them to find out when and where the photo was taken or we don't know about the metadata of the photos.
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⚠⚠⚠русня хрюкает, всем выйти с треда на время zачистки⚠⚠⚠
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did you recognized how their tone changed to crying after the situation for russians troops changed?
at the beginning they told us all the tales from the great russian book of tales and after the russian army getting their asses handed over suddenly all our news about it is wrong and without proof
slogan for the next president of russia will be "make russia great again"
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babies cry for fathers left in our motherland to decompose. I could be sad but they intended to kill us so fuck them all
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There is no fuel, there is no ammunition, there is little equipment, the most motivated and combat-ready unit is in captivity. I have not forgotten anything except the export of grain and the subsequent famine of Ukrainians. Look at all the facts, not just the ones you like.
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and still ukrainian army kicks the russians, with their bare hands
do you even get what crap you're talking?
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Kicks on YouTube, which you can trust with 100%. Yes, there can only be the truth of "sarcasm". Or is there news about the victorious advance of the troops and the fact that another residential point has been liberated?
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there isn't any news about victorious advance of russian troops either
and in the past russians retreated from the north of Ukraine
even Lavrov shits his pants, as Ukraine could attack russian soil with NATO weaponry
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-us-ukraine-discuss-danger-escalation-new-arms-extend-kyivs-reach-2022-05-26/
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The task is completed, the group of 100 thousand that was sitting near Kiev did not go to Mariupol to unlock the unit locked in the basements, which then surrendered. Fuel depots with stocks are being destroyed, there are not very many new supplies, or Europe began to buy Brent oil, I don't remember something, it's not enough for them to allocate more to Ukraine. So the sixth package of sanctions was not adopted because of this. The factories that make ammunition are almost destroyed. There is a transition to NATO standards, but at the same time it is necessary to bring ammunition in addition to weapons. And it is necessary to shake the Europeans who are ready to send now, and the probability of payment is close to 0%. But energy resources are getting more expensive. Or for Ukraine shells or a discount at gas stations. Here comes the choice.
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Your army is a ffin joke
More than 3 months now. Pathetic
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I understand, it is necessary to say something bad, but he is not there. Therefore, let's say, but without specifying the country. Tell me the country, otherwise it can be attributed to any army.
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context will tell you which army, but i see you pro-Kremlin guys have problems with understanding context
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Ukraine. The Armed Forces of Ukraine. They said they were the strongest in Europe, but they did not show the result, they were simply beaten by a limited contingent.
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Well, this was said by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba at the economic forum in Davos on May 25. Or did you not watch the speech of this politician?
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you're even more proficient than Bazilus in deflecting, you're talking about things no on asked for all the time
and talking about limited contingent suggests the size isn't big, when you don't talk about that limited contingent is the size of a whole army of other nations, you clearly missed to apply banana for scale here
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Well, I didn't say about the strongest army. And if you look at this discussion, then there is only one army and this is the Army of Ukraine.
After this was questioned, it was clarified where this statement was. At the forum in Davos.
Here I wanted to write more about the politician, but decided not to do it, it would still be low, due to the fact that I wanted to inform and so they know.
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you're playing the dumb now
he cleary adressed you and said your army, is ukrainian army your army?
also you came up with Davos and strongest army, when no one asked you about it and you keep talking and talking about it, do you talk to yourself or what?
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uhm, can you provide some Permalinks, where other people adressed Davos and stronk army in this branch?
i know you're good with providing useless Permalinks, can you provide useful too?
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https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/UlgZuw1
https://ru.euronews.com/video/2022/05/26/nato-doing-nothing
https://ru.euronews.com/2022/05/26/nato-doing-nothing where did it come from (specifically Euronews, due to the fact that you have the opportunity to read it).
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yeah, you provided a link to your own comment, when i wanted to see link of other persons
missed the context again? it's really hard to discuss with you guys, when you're failing to get the context all the time
bruh, no one asked about Davos
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https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/5UpJIZD isn't this written by you?
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You have long been told to read in full, not selectively. Now this moment has come. It is necessary to read everything, even those that have been closed.
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i'm sorry to disappoint you, but i read in full, that's why i understand context and you didn't, am i right?
also i see you have no point, so you adressing me with this trolling effort, i'm out, have a nice evening
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-west-wont-succeed-cutting-russia-off-2022-05-26/
But nevertheless, everything can be adjusted, everything can be built in a new way," Putin said
lol. like this ? - https://trans.info/en/russia-vehicle-standard-285647 .... by dropping EURO standard to zero because you are unable to manufacture even a modern fuel injection system without wests imports? I mean who believes this dribble that comes out of his mouth?
Not even mentioning the absolute disaster of going away from x64 processors and using some old ass x84 from China...... I really would love to see how Russia will suddenly develop technologies on developing modern day products.
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Putin's Russia should go back to stable sovereign horse and bull transport independent from the rotten West
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about motors... the author probably have some problems with google.translate and common sense.
because the original source talking about the heavy cars - trucks.
ppl in the real world using trucks from Scania or other brands.
https://motor.ru/news/euro-zero-2022-20-03-2022.htm
https://motor.ru/news/kamaz-engines-rumors-03-03-2022.htm
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https://www.politico.eu/article/war-and-sanctions-force-lada-to-dump-modern-technology/
Yes, that article talks about trucks. But same goes for VAZ as well.
And of course - no one will take away your mercedes, renaults and other modern cars (just like you will be able to drive scanias and volvos). The thing is about new productions. And sales. New cars wont sell that well and are not in line with emissions for other countries. That cant go well for manufacturers and economy as well.
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https://www.ymzmotor.ru/ Yaroslavl Motor Plant
https://yourmotor.ru/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/KAMAZ-740.pdf Instructions for the KamAZ-740 engine (PDF, 4.6 MB, in Russian)
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The main reveal would look something like this: https://youtu.be/jYmn3Gwn3oI
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Mikhail Naumovich will not be able to say anything else. since 1991, he has been living in the USA, and everything is simple there. If you don't throw mud at the current government in Russia, then they can ask from the country. There is a wonderful example, and this is Anna Yuryevna Netrebko, who lives in Austria. Freedom of speech and one's political position is only for a limited circle of people, the rest must do as they are told.
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Bazilus just told us different things about freedom of speech
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Freedom of speech and one's political position is only for a limited circle of people, the rest must do as they are told.
i don't see that, he talks about people
why is everything you dislike fake and misinformation? I see a pattern here
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we don't talk about opinions here, when you see the written words
and if i remember correctly. last time you claimed, there is also freedom of speech in russia
so how is it suddenly different between the US and russia now, you contradict yourself
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nah, you missed that it's not about freedom of speech in the US, i don't think there is anyone, any law or any consequences there, who forbids him to state his opinion, when there are several consequences and oppression waiting for him in russia, when he states his opinion
nice distortion and easy to debunk
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why do you always deflect, when you're lacking arguments?
laws and consequences aren't things, which everyone can see differently, even cement admitted on the last page, some russian would suffer consequences and oppression, when he talks against Gremlin
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maybe i expressed myself wrong, so you went out of context
i meant laws aren't a matter of interpretation, a law states a thing which is forbidden, it doesn't matter in the context, if someone likes or dislikes the law itself, that's why i said laws and consequences, to show the connection
and freedom of speech isn't an opinion either, as you tried to tell us that
yeah, Gremlin like a litte orc, you know
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i never participated in the discussion about the old woman, so it's impossible i went out of context there
but didn't we talked about other stuff?
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Mikhail Naumovich will not be able to say anything else. since 1991, he has been living in the USA, and everything is simple there. If you don't throw mud at the current government in Russia, then they can ask from the country
and you tell us, using the example of the old women, that there is free speech in russia, and i was exactly referring to that in my comment below cements post, that you tell us other things
so we dicussed all that crap and standing there again, where we started? what a waste of time
but tbh i think this old women is just a exception, which confirms the rule
but if you stay with your claim, that there is free speech in russia, why can't Naumovich or the other guy from the last page talk freely? Why did they tried to poison Nawalny and sent him to Gulag afterwards? Why did they sent the Pussy Riot girls to Gulag and one fled the country recently?
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sorry, i edited my post, so it makes more sense
Edit: of course i picked one of your comments blindfolded and began to write, Kappa
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well, i already read a lot of news about it, no need to google it, but i was curious about your interpretation or are you too tired to twist things again?
banned? what are you talking about, i'm not the one who spamming the same Permalink all the time
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Напишу по русски, чтоб часть поняли. Немного не так. Да, Анна Юрьевна проживает в Австрии (у неё двойное гражданство), но в феврале 2022 года её попросили сделать высказывание о осуждении специальной операции на Украине. Она это высказывание сделала, но сделала его по принципу того, чтоб не очень зацепить и Россию, на что её попросили с работы и сказали, что больше дела иметь не будут. После она сделала второе заявление, и вот как раз на второе заявление уже в России сказали, что не хотим иметь дело с Вами, а в тот же момент в Европе сказали. что на правильном пути, но всё равно работать не пригласим, ещё хотим обвинений России.
По поводу Михаила Наумовича, то он проживает на постоянной основе в США, возможно сейчас в Англии и вынужден смотреть и на тех, кто даёт кров и работу. Тут если просят выступить с обвинение страны, то или собираешь манатки и валишь или выступаешь с этим обвинением.
Вот далеко ходить не надо, пример Александра Михайловича Овечкина. Его даже не просят с чем-то выступить, хотели запретить въезд обратно в связи с тем, что в отпуск поехал в Россию, но там уже местные объяснили о том, что это делать не надо.
А так если от конкретного оппонента зависит многое, то будут сдувать пылинки и смотреть сквозь пальцы на политическую позицию.
I don't know how the translation came out.
A little wrong. Yes, Anna Yurievna lives in Austria (she has dual citizenship), but in February 2022 she was asked to make a statement condemning the special operation in Ukraine. She made this statement, but she did it on the principle of not really hooking Russia, which she was asked to do from work and told that they would not have any more business. After that, she made a second statement, and just at the second statement, they said in Russia that they did not want to deal with you, and at the same moment they said in Europe. that's on the right track, but we won't invite you to work anyway, we still want to blame Russia.
As for Mikhail Naumovich, he lives on a permanent basis in the USA, perhaps now in England and is forced to look at those who give shelter and work. Here, if they ask you to come forward with an accusation of the country, then either you collect your manatees and get out or you come forward with this accusation.
Here it is not necessary to go far, the example of Alexander Mikhailovich Ovechkin. He is not even asked to speak with something, they wanted to ban him from entering back due to the fact that he went to Russia on vacation, but the locals already explained there that it was not necessary to do this.
And so if a lot depends on a particular opponent, then they will blow away the specks of dust and look through their fingers at the political position.
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Resisting Putin's war: the women risking it all on the streets of Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHzPrayS8dU&ab_channel=TheGuardian
Russian mom saving her sons from being cannon fodder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOQuZIZ9QEA&ab_channel=BBCNews
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Why Bazilus keeps commenting here?
Answer: Manipulation!
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well, since you pretend to be reading between the lines:
what does the russian government hide from you by censoring out any critical voice?
Why does the police arrest people that have signs against the war?
Why is everybody afraid to tell their mind?
Why are the russian leaders trying to blame the victims?
Why the hell is a war even necessary if not for Putin trying to applease his ego?
Why are you not being told how many russians have died?
Try to answer these for yourself, no need to come up with excuses to puplicly show you're a drone...
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More anonymous people
https://youtu.be/cBEbykecqRk
You might say its fake but you also have no proof that it is fake or setup. Same as how I cant show it is 100% real.
Also related to the first old lady, she is quite famous indeed and old. I would like to see them try to lock her up.
Making someone a martyr is generally something you want to avoid.
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freedom of speech and everyone is afraid to call it a war, you're lacking coherence again
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semantics, everyone with a sane mind, who sees pictures of the battles would call it a war
i don't know for what reasons governments don't call it a war, maybe to play it down?
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yeah, i'm too young indeed to have not seen WW2
but i've seen pictures and they really resemble what happens in Ukraine
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ridiculous to compare such terrible things like a war with that idiom and no it's not suitable, because something good looking wouldn't turn out to be of lesser value, well tbh, that idiom would be suitable for your army, don't you think?
and as you speak so self-confident about being able to distinguish war and not war, which wars do you have seen, are you old enough to seen WW2 with your own eyes?
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i understand what it means, but i can't find anything on Google related to it, so it doesn't seem like a common idiom
if it looks like shit, smells like shit and tastes like shit, it probably is shit
and i know another common idiom: A fish rots from the head down
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yeah typo, would not wouldn't
no reason to doubt me
i don't know that much about fishes and never claimed that, i only know the idiom
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do idioms always claim to be the truth or just paraphrasing things?
i think you mix up idioms with science or is it, because you're a bit paranoid and see fake and lies everywhere
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The second video is pure fake.
the fate of 2 sons after the conscription is to make a contract for military service. but they don't tell mom :D
while "cannon fodder" (as u say) is only in Ukraine, since they have forced mobilization for a mans who has 18 and older
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Just so you know, men and women are lining up to become a part of the army. There's no forced mobilization, on the contrast with dnr/lnr. It's so freaking funny how you guys are always mirroring what you're doing, trying to project that onto Ukraine
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First link is behind paywall, second link disproves your point completely:
"The Ukrainian government is not forcing men to fight, only remain in the country, but there are fears of enforced conscription if the violence continues."
"Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men have volunteered to fight since the Russian invasion began."
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Soldiers from DNR that have been captured, are saying constantly (in lots of videos) that they were (mostly) taken against their will, under-equipped, and thrown on the frontlines as cannon fodder. I remember seeing at least three videos with regular DNR people saying these things. One video was filmed in the truck by people themselves, while on their way to the frontlines, they were saying they are not warriors, but regular workers, and weren't willing to fight and/or die.
So I'm quite skeptical about the massive "voluntary" enrollment in dnr-lnr.
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I am at the prime age for army, as are my friends. Two of them enlisted into territorial defense on his own volition, others weren't even approached with an offer. There is a constant flow of people wishing to protect their homeland, so no need for forced enrollment.
I think if we really had forceful enrollment into army, I would be long fighting, or dead (more likely, since I have no combat experience). But alas, there wasn't any letters or visits from the army men. To me this is saying the country has enough real volunteers, and doesn't need to force people to join the army.
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https://youtu.be/iDDMuU3kpvI
More Russians complaining about their desperate situation and money problems.
Morale is low in the Orc army.
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"son never gonna talks with his mom like this."
Lol, you obviously know how every son talks to his mother. And call something "bullshit" based on some illusions in your mind. What a nice "food for brains" =)
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"You have kids? They loves his mother?"
You have english? They loves his language?
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Bauble is right though.
Asserting that you know how every son talks to their mom in the world, just shows how narrow minded your way of thinking is.
"If I dont do it, therefor no one does it." Is biased way of thinking.
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"son never gonna talks with his mom like this."
your words not mine
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"son never gonna talks with his mom like this"
Hypocrite...
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Amazing. One never can tell if your English is just too terrible for a meaningful conversation, if you are trolling or if you are indeed too stupid to figure out how your words make no sense and how you did nothing but to confirm their argument.
Please feel free to confirm all three options by the next reply you provide. 👌
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it's ruski translatorski, great socialistic invention
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poor Bazilus, everyone dislkes you and is against you, it's almost you're like russia
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His butt is hurt,
All that poop coming out of his mouth is making his butt jealous.
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haha, i think i need to reply to each of his comments, so he would spam his Permalink, locks himself out of the discussion and ends it that way
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115 Russian national guard soldiers sacked for refusing to fight in Ukraine
Cases involving Rosgvardia, known as Vladimir Putin’s private army, are clearest sign yet of dissent in Russian ranks.
More than 100 Russian national guardsmen have been fired for refusing to fight in Ukraine, court documents show, in what looks to be the clearest indication yet of dissent among some parts of security forces over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.
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The authority of the Horde Warchief is fading.
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A small clarification.
Rosgvardiya and not the National Guard.
https://rosguard.gov.ru/
Tasks that are solved.
- The personnel of the department takes an active part in conducting military operations, ensures public safety and law enforcement, protection of the population from criminal encroachments and looting in settlements liberated from nationalist armed formations.
- The special role of the Russian Guard units is played in ensuring the protection of important infrastructure and transport communications, including nuclear power facilities, including the Chernobyl and Zaporizhia nuclear power plants.
- In addition, the Russian Guardsmen assist citizens in establishing a peaceful life, help with food and medicines, carry out, among other things, the protection and escort of convoys with humanitarian supplies.
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Putin needs to be careful. A dictator cannot treat his security forces as if they were ordinary citiZens, otherwise his own security forces could trigger a coup.
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deflecting with whataboutism, when Zelensky isn't even a dictator, who doesn't care about his people
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Ukrainian security forces would be happy to keep an eye on Putin while he is behind bars. It would be a good idea to imprison Putin with other Russian war criminals, they could play Dedovshchina together, Putin could get the role of junior conscript.
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Somehow I think it isn't related to fear as to why they refuse to fight.
And you are right it is necessary to replace them however it is another drop in the bucket, another crack in the wall, that all is not well in Russia.
Civilians protesting is one thing, Officers refusing is a whole other level of seriousness.
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lovely how little humanity you grant them, after calling for exactly that when the invading soldiers got hit by drone....
Those guardsmen will live because they did the right thing... others not so much
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don't you feel it's inhumane to send someone to their death for something they didn't even sign up for? What would you do if you sign up to guard your country and then have to go invade another, just beacause some cancer ridden guy on his deathbed wants to be named next to actual historical people?
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that's the point here: military operation is not their job, but they were supposed to do exactly this: take part in the "special military operation" - as russians label the war... don't you see the issue here?
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lol, I'm not, it's just repeated what you said for you to enjoy your own bs
but at least it's a good start that you understand that the things you say is utter bs XD
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personally i dont watched this video, but from the yotube cover image with tag #вукраине
this video is a pure ukrainian propaganda work
proper russian tag is #наукраине
:D
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you seem paranoid lately, seeing fake and disinformation all around, but i guess that happens if you're under the permanent influence of fake and misinformation from state media
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A democratic racism in future former ukraine https://fakty.ua/ru/297322-naveli-strah-voennye-iz-angoly-proshli-na-parade-v-omske-video
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJIUcOptVU4
A solemn formation of troops on the occasion of Defender of the Fatherland Day took place in Omsk on Cathedral Square today. In addition to Russian servicemen, foreign soldiers from two African states also marched. The performance of the cadets of the special faculty of the Armored Institute, who came to Omsk from Angola, turned out to be especially picturesque. Under the "patriotic song in Portuguese" (that's what the presenter called what they sang) these soldiers marched through the square with a specific marching step — with stomping and ducking. It was without exaggeration the brightest performance at the parade. Their colleagues from the Congo performed the song in French.
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The special faculty of the Armored Institute is a Russian institution that accepts cadets from Angola and Congo? If true, that's good news for diversity in Russia.
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And why not, the study goes according to the contract. The Government of the country has signed an agreement on the passage of a certain number of cadets. Now these cadets are being trained. They are trained on Russian simulators and Russian equipment. Angola and Congo will then purchase Russian equipment to support their forces due to the fact that the cadets were trained on it and know how to use it. And this is already loading not only classrooms, but also industry.
But they will not be allowed to serve in the Russian troops due to graduation - Lieutenant.
There is a condition:
- The selection of candidates from among foreign citizens for military service under a contract in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for military positions to be replaced by soldiers, sailors, sergeants, foremen, ensigns and midshipmen is carried out by selection points for military service under a contract together with military commissariats.
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With your previous concern about diversity, I needed to ask to be sure.
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Freedom that there should be one Gay, one disabled and one with a different skin color in this, even if he does not know how to work. If they fail, then only a white heterosexual man can be fired, and the rest cannot be touched. Then the question arises, why do they have more rights than this man, in what is he worse?
It's good news. Now you fully approve of people "with a different skin color" becoming cadets of the special faculty of the Armored Institute.
No problem if they took the place of Russians, I'm sure they can do a better job than the Russians not selected to become cadets.
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Rave. Cadets from Angola and Congo. If they receive Russian citizenship, they can go to serve, otherwise the service is closed. The reason is written above. Skin color will be looked at last. When joining the armed forces, there are requirements and they must be met, the color does not apply to the requirements.
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But are they in the service of the armed forces of Russia, they are being trained. Do not confuse these things, they are completely different.
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There is a limit to the number of places available for cadets. Nothing is infinite.
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i think he understood that they are only for training purposes there and go back after they finished
he just said it's good to have diversity in russia and it's better to have capable people learning there instead of having only russians, which some are maybe incapable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZioTavNy3c
Both sides are committing to major offensives.
Russia aims to finally capture Severodonetsk
Ukraine is pushing at Kherson area.
May glory come to Ukraine and the Russian invader fall flat on its face.
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RIA Novosti reporter covering Ukraine War has fascist tattoos, Ukrainian journalists find out
Это очень жестокое мнение, но там, где я его сформулировал, не приведи Господь оказаться большинству моих читателей. Наша цель - война до последнего свидомого. Они все должны остаться в заваленных блиндажах, под плитами перекрытий домов и в скороспелых полевых могилках.
По итогам, 30 летняя история украинской государственности должна повторить судьбу наследия Третьего рейха. Человек говорящий по украински должен восприниматься как дегенерат и подлец-предатель виновный в братоубийственной войне развязанной в интересах третьих стран. Интересно, там где надо это понимают?
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This is a very brutal opinion, but where I formulated it, God forbid most of my readers should find themselves. Our goal is a war to the last svidomi (currently used as a slang/slur for Ukrainian). They should all be left in the piled up dugouts, under the slabs of house slabs, and in the soon-to-be field graves.
As a result, the 30-year history of Ukrainian statehood should repeat the fate of the legacy of the Third Reich. A person who speaks Ukrainian must be perceived as a degenerate and a scoundrel-traitor guilty of a fratricidal war unleashed in the interests of third countries. I wonder if anyone in the right place understands this?
Must be really hard when you try to come up with an anti-fascist phony facade and your own propaganda warriors constantly destroy it.
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So, no pro-Putin to say this is fake news or to say calling for genocide sucks. Schizo-fascism in all its glory.
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And there is a link not to Novaya Gazeta, but to the article itself in Komsomolskaya Pravda, because it is given for a KP correspondent. Or is it a private statement of only that person.
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комсомольская "правда", русня соснула в очередной раз.
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https://webmshare.com/play/ZoeQd
heartwarming moment: ukrainian fallen soldiers return to home (tiktok tribute video)
(Rating: G – General Audiences)
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This is clearly a humanitarian relief truck. So probably the only option at the moment for transporting. As for why the writing wasn't covered - could be a thousand resons, but most likely there was no time/strength to do it. In war, there's not much time for pleasantries, and people who kneeled before the truck understood that.
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On the contrary to russia, people here don't usually gather crowds to make a nice video. This looks like the convoy was just passing through the city, and the bystanders chose to honor it by bending the knee. One of the bystanders recorded the video, easy.
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you suck at english, this is the only reason you didn't understood what was written and fabricated some bull about random people passing by, it's obvious they gathered to honour the dead, contrary to russia where people gather to shoot fake videos, that's what Vassay said
i suggest you replace russki translatorski with proper technology
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How else would people gather on the side of the road? They come to the edge of the road, and SURPRISE, the edge of the road is in fact a line.
Are you THAT desperate to find at least something here that will say it's fake, or staged, or whatever? I get the healthy scepticism, but this is way past that.
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Kyiv junta once again is using cluster munitions, Donbass school hit https://t.me/FAKEcemetery/1435 https://t.me/opersvodki/5181
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You might want to read up on the meaning of the word "junta"
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Who started the bombing in Donbass ? Who invaded Crimea and Dbonbass in 2014 ?
All reaction after that was caused by Putin and Russia
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Sadly "your history" has already been shown to be "fake" Russian "victim" history.
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Nah it is just your opinion and what you have been fed by Mother Russia.
They indoctrinated you well with their false timeline.
Just like the current situation.... Nazi Ukraine... where are all those Nazis.... oh wait it is just another false reality created by Russia and fed to its people.
The facts are out there. Use that brain of yours to find the truth.
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no one cares for your propaganda shit from a channel created 1 month ago
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Isnt it strange how all the world sees this... even your buddy China.
And just you see what you posted with all other Russians?
If you dare, we can show you sattelite before and after images.
One day you will see, ... or not.
Just keep your eyes shut and call all else liessss. They messed you up in the head.
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What a contrast with your video dont you think?
Shame on you for mindlessly enabling your government to commit these atrocities.
Blood is on your hands too , remember that.
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just like there were no green men in crimea ?
If you choose to believe the kremlin lies then you can live in that fake reality
I believe that Putin is a lying corrupt bastard who is responsible for the whole mess just for his own "glory" and he doesn't care how many Russians and Ukrains have to die for it.
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not when you are watching russian state tv. That is not about truth.
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nah mate, you understood it wrong, we don't hate Ukraine here
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And yet, all cities were standing after 8 years of so called bombing.
Look at what Russia has done in just 3 months to the cities and towns...
Or are we going to let the hypocrite loose again?
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Fact remains.
8 years of bombing you say, show me the pictures of destroyed cities?
3 months of Russia or shall we ask Aleppo?
We all know where you are looking...
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Destroyed cities,
Not a destroyed building here or there where some Russian troops were hiding.
A city destroyed as in Mariopol which the Russian orcs leveled.
And in the end if Russia didnt just meddle and provide munitions and secret Russians troops to those seperatists regions. None of this would have happened.
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be lenient with him, ruski translatorski is malfunctioning again
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another propaganda channel created only 1 month ago
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https://youtu.be/EIJQ_oM8Vns
Facts like this or as we call it reality
You giveth the finger to a drone, and the little drone giveth something back.
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nah, i think he prefers to stay the uneducated vatnik he is
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wish you all the best, take a break, relax, do/play fun stuff/games, go outside and feel the sun and come back with new energy and crush those vatniks, we are more
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Timothy Snyder talks about schizo-fascism:
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fascist ideas have come to Russia at a historical moment, three generations after the Second World War, when it’s impossible for Russians to think of themselves as fascist. The entire meaning of the war in Soviet education was as an anti-fascist struggle, where the Russians are on the side of the good and the fascists are the enemy.
So there’s this odd business, which I call in the book “schizo-fascism,” where people who are themselves unambiguously fascists refer to others as fascists. Which has an interesting consequence, that fascism becomes harder to talk about even as it becomes more important. Amidst all this bad faith, it is easy to say: well, the word is outdated, or it’s just a joke, because look how it’s tossed around. So the very fact that fascists call other people fascists is itself a kind of propaganda, which Jason Stanley calls “undermining propaganda,” which makes it hard for us to talk about fascism as an actual phenomenon.
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Nazism is probably the highest level of fascism.
Didn't you hear anyone in Russia calling Ukraine a Nazi state?
Didn't you hear anyone in Russia saying that Ukraine needed to be denazified?
Have you forgotten Putin's truths?
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you mean the word of the world outside of russia? yes, for sure we are based on that!
alternate facts/truths or whatever you call it means nothing outside the lie-bubble russia has become....
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I wrote the word "denazified", I'm not afraid of the word "denazification".
Denazification means getting rid of Nazism, not the most scholarly but still accurate analysis.
If you believe I'm a Nazi, just say so. If you believe Ukrainians are Nazis, just say so.
You go around saying we don't check, then when you're asked simple questions, you can't answer.
Am I asking about the West statements here? NO. I ask about Russian statements:
Nazism is probably the highest level of fascism.
Didn't you hear anyone in Russia calling Ukraine a Nazi state?
Didn't you hear anyone in Russia saying that Ukraine needed to be denazified?
Have you forgotten Putin's truths?
There are many schizo-fascists in Russia.
Sometimes it's hard not to tell someone he is a fucking lying piece of shit! Believe me.
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No, i do not thinks that all ukrainian is nazi. But in Ukraine right now nazi have not little power. All this active propaganda of hatred confirms this.
and the same counts conversely for russia, right?
Even here in current thread many simply do not know how to communicate, a lot of rudeness and swearing which is caused by one single factor to them - Russians.
sorry, but you're wrong here, replace russians with vatniks, so your sentence makes sense
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About Donbass:
Putin launched a mini-coup after his puppet president Yanukovych was broken. Proxy republics are Putin's idea.
The shelling was mutual. For one country (Ukraine), if citizens under influence of another country (Russia) tear the integrity of the country, you have a good reason to defend yourself.
About the allegations of Nazism:
If the Nazis really were in charge of Ukraine, why didn't Putin say so through the UN institutions. Putin only made his speech when he was ready to attack Ukraine. His claims about the Nazis are just a pretext to wage war on Ukraine and take it over in whole or in part. Putin's denazification is just a purge of everything in its path.
About Vladimir Vladimirovich watching over Russian interests:
Putin wants to rule Russia for as long as he wants. Anyone in his path is a criminal, traitor or foreign agent.
@Bazilus
just do not affect the freedom of others and do not impose your ideology of yours on others.
Seriously, we're just talking. Putin with his army, is the one who affects the freedom of others and tries to impose his ideology on others. You can't deny that. But of course you will.
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@Bazilus
when Ukraine began to openly say that yes, we have nationalists who support the doctrine of Nazism, they are what they are.
It may have been said, I don't know. I need the news, with context on a reliable media to check, because I don't trust medias ruled by a dictator. In many countries you can find neo-Nazi pieces of shit, but they do not rule the whole country. Earlier you said that all of Ukraine was ruled by Nazis, you have to prove it.
Anyway, when pro-Putin people say they have found a Nazi (=fascist) government, it serves as schizo-fascist* propaganda.
**: made in Russia
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it made me sick to read all of his bullshit, i mean seriously, how brainwashed can someone be?
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Prosac, I agree. (Maybe he's paid, I don't know.)
It's still painless. We are only shelled with schizo-fascist propaganda. In Russia they suffer from after-sales service: threats, confiscation of rights, imprisonment, torture, re-education, assassination and other things.
And about Ukraine, pro-Putin take it as minor loss, they don't care about Ukrainians. Maybe 69 years in the USSR to get there, congratulations comrades, you can be proud!
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i made that assumption weeks ago, just look at the narrative from the great book of russian tales he's trying to tell us
doubting everything we provide, but gobbling down every inch of uhm i say state media to not get suspended
and as i already said, what loser do you have to be to discuss russian matters in an Ukraine Awareness Thread, why don't they do their own Russki Awareness Thread, where they could keep together or do they fear no one would care about their propaganda BS?
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You were inspired by these nonsense of your media and you believe in them as in the great holy book of russian tales. Although the Internet and the search bar are available to you, but you don’t even try to checking that what is being imposed to you is true. You are a mere submissive puppet!
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@Bazilus
Stop lie, i never said anything like this.
That was more of a mistake than a lie, now I realize you were very careful not to say it directly. If I may add, saying that you are going to denazify a country implies a little bit that the country is ruled by the Nazis.
Speaking of lying, saying "Ukraine was ruled by Nazis" is a lie, the same lie as Putin. [Claims about neo-Nazism and genocide]
Putin stated that "neo-Nazis seized power in Ukraine".
Putin called the Ukrainian authorities "a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis".
I ask again, because I like fake-ass answers: Didn't you hear anyone in Russia calling Ukraine a Nazi state? Have you forgotten Putin's truths?
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Several Communists during a meeting of the ZSPK demanded to stop the special operation - they were deprived of the right to vote
Несколько коммунистов во время заседания ЗСПК выступили с требованием прекратить спецоперацию – их лишили права голоса
https://www.newsvl.ru/vlad/2022/05/27/209429/
As far as some of these related stories go.....
115 members of the Russian State SS have refused to go to Ukraine.
Leonid Leonid, a member of the Communist Party, suddenly read out a statement at a plenary session.
The local representative of the Communist Party's faction condemned the members as "traitors" and announced that they would be severely punished.
Another report said that they were "discharged.
According to a portion of the statement that was reportedly overheard
"Military operations should be stopped because they create war orphans.
"Those who become disabled during military operations are the youth of the country that will benefit greatly.
"We demand the immediate withdrawal of Russian Federation troops."
It is the Russian government that sends Russian citizens off to war by certifying them as unpatriotic in this way.
I do not know about the Russian citizens close to Moscow, but it seems that the Russian citizens far from Moscow have a conscience and are trying to end their days of patience.
The day is near when people with relatives in Ukraine will turn their guns on each other with their families if they adhere to the instructions of the Russian government.
Those who understand this will do the right thing.
It is extremely unpleasant to imagine such a situation, but it is becoming a reality. :(
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communists meetings are boring. better watch some ukrainians rada brawls with fistfights :D
u can google more videos https://youtu.be/fT65rlutaC8
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"forced to demilitarise the whole of Nato" - Twitter Search / Twitter
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22forced%20to%20demilitarise%20the%20whole%20of%20Nato%22&src=typed_query&f=live
I was watching closely that RussiaTV started to rephrase the fight to NATO instead of a special operation against Ukraine.TVtalk:genuine war has begun, it's WW3..
Your 2018 video on Ukraine did not seem relevant.
The special operation to replace it with a different topic apparently failed.
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The special operation to replace it with a different topic apparently failed.
nope. this video is related to this topic. brawl started because someone accusing him
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Medvedchuk
saying that he is a putin agent. but return in 2022 - Zelensky says Ukrainian forces have captured top Putin ally (viktor medvedchuk).
and they have some ideas to swap him for a ukrainian POW'S.
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as for twitter with olga skabeeva... well it was cutted from political tv-show were some ppl talking about 'things', sharing their own thoughts.
she host discussion and have ability to add her own comments to ppl thoughts. Ok.
but.... from some angles she is right.
nato countries giving ukraine weapons. and now... russians needs to destroying these weapons.
act of destroying these weapons simply may be called as "Demilitarisation of NATO"
:D
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i see, that's how your propaganda works, destroying only a marginal amount of NATO weaponry means destroying all of NATO, you people are completely nuts
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for u i have a special military "truth". lol -
every weapon needs to be recycled (bc it outdated and weapons factories works every day). storage has limits.
so.. some puppets from ur gov are connected to putin.
they give him money for a "soft" recycle weir weapons, to free space in the storage.
weapons goes to the ukraine. it a win-win situation.
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"for u i have a special military "truth""
For a moment there I was worried that you were going to share your gay porn with Prosac as well.
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so you say putin is NATO's puppet for attacking the state they were prepared to provide weapons for?
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interesting, as that's what your statement implies... seems like you drones don't even know ehat you try to spread, lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tII4wGr3apc
A bit of history for all.
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The whole world should just leave us alone ffs. But nooo, everyone wants a piece of cake.
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Yes, make sure you say a big "Thank You" to the USA for their Lend/Lease program saving your bacon next May 9th.
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Lol. Setting aside that these tanks and even more so airplanes were more crucial when the Soviets were on the brink of losing, you also seem to forget that no war is won without logistics. And Soviet reliance on lend-lease was >90% there.
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and still you made it look like, if it wasn't useful at all, we have an expert here in distortion, skills you acquired in years working as a paid troll and then you're offended, when you got trolled back
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In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[58] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[59] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[60] and 1.75 million tons of food.[61]
You calculate... and then say thank you USA for letting you win the war.
Lookie look how Stalin even agreed.
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
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so why did they took the lend-lease then? Stalin stupid?
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And yet with all that supposed material USSR created.
They needed USA or lose the war... fact.
Nikita Khrushchev said:
"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me"
Thank you USA for keeping USSR afloat.
Hard to admit for you I understand.
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and still you made it look like, if it wasn't useful at all
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I know right, the attempts at downplaying the US's role on the Soviet front is incredible.
Also lucky you, seems he is finally ignoring you. Hahaha
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yeah, it's cool he stopped annoying me with his spam and i can blame him for not answering me, because of lack of arguments, that's a double win for me
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Maybe they stopped writing due to the fact that they can't explain it to a donkey anyway, it's like shaking the air, it won't be any use anyway. And so you can think whatever you want, you still don't know the truth.
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no need to use insults, when the insult itself would be more suitable to you, failing to understand context all of the time
the truth about aliens or just your state media fake truth, which you call truth?
it's almost like covidiots who talk about the "truth" all the time
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Prior entering the war, the US was neutral and therefor was allowed to on the one hand send war equipment to the Brits and tank oil to Germany.
More or less how Turkey now can send drones that kill Russians to Ukraine and still make deals with Russia.
But naughty Standard Oil decided to keep making money after the USA entered the war which is a big no no. Greedy company got investigated but doubtful that they got punished hard.
So Thank you USA for at least slapping Standard Oil on the wrists...
Are you happy now?
Also the word you are looking for is crucial... not useful.
1941, read up and you will find out why it was crucial.
Nazi Germany's fate had already been sealed in 41-42.
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Also the word you are looking for is crucial... not useful.
russki translatorski is indoctrinated to change words for propaganda reasons
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"because you are lying in plain text and when you poke it in your face about it"
Show me the lies or be quiet.
"Based on your words, everyone in the world was just waiting next 3 years for Nazi Germany peacefully accept their destiny. Sounds funny."
Not my fault you can't understand "A Grand Plan" and if there is a fundamental problem there, you will die a slow death.
Look up El Alamein and Stalingrad and think of the reason why Germany had to push there.
Fighting on so 3 fronts is very costly ( as Russia still hasn't learnt)., And as we all know economics ( USA) and logistics ( not enough oil for Germany) win wars, soldiers win battles.... well not you and Russia, so much is clear since the start of this conflict.
Sure there were some other important events that happened such as the Brits and their radar, The Soviet "Zerg" strategy of just throwing bodies at the problem until it goes away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF3g4Ua5e7k
You know nothing Bazilus.
Like I said before, I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
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It's all there, you just fail at comprehension... again.
Still waiting on my lies to be revealed...
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nice, how he deflects, when he don't have answers, right?
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haha indeed.
I was waiting for an opportunity to throw his own " I will ignore you" in his face.
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i'm slowly getting bored of these vatniks, they don't have any arguments, look how often they didn't answered my posts and i'm not speaking of the ones, where Bazilus ignored me, i'm speaking of the ones, where i had some good points. I think this is also the reason Bazilus is ignoring me, he had a hard time competing with me, so he made up some excuses to not be the loser.
Deflecting, distorting and failing to comprehend context and venting their propaganda all the time in an Ukraine Awareness Thread, i mean, what loser do you have to be for this?
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Addition: Link to Youtube
In Ukraine the producers of sausages quite a cuckoo went out. Yes, and the government who approves the release of such products.
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Separatist in oil
Kadyrovites in own juice
Sometimes you can't help but wonder how easy pro-Putin's clowns fall for this :D
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What exactly am I supposed to learn from that video? That it, in fact, exists? So do the aforementioned products.
This may strike you as a surprise, but the humor, especially the dark one, serves as a defense mechanism. You can ask paramedics or morgue workers and they'll tell you a lot about it.
How dare these people try and brighten their day when they are being shelled by the invaders!
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Now take a minute and think why this is happening right now, at this exact moment in time. Not a year ago, not five years ago, but now, when russian soldiers are killing Ukrainians. AFTER the invasion has started. I'll give you a hint, locals might not like the invaders (sorry, "liberators") very much.
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Of course, only crazy news are the reason. Silly Ukrainians, they don't know they are bombing themselves, starving themselves, raping themselves, mass killing themselves. The huge amount of russian soldiers on our soil definitely has nothing to do with that, riiiight.
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Even mere presence of a hostile military force is enough to hate them. How about that?
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and if that neighbour isn't turning the music down i call the police
who do you gonna call if someone is invading my country?
i guess bigger countries to help, do you see who is the bully here?
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If true, now Russian soldiers have a good reason to loot Ukrainian kitchens, they can confiscate kitchen utensils.
Refugee from Popasna spots looted possessions on Russian tank
If I may add, the de-blanket-isation of Ukraine is progressing, look at the last picture.
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Ваши пруфы не пруфы, потому что орки не могут быть злыми...
РУСНЯ СОСАТЬ
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Mental gymnastics here are out of this world
I give you slow clap
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Unless you see a news by yourself, you never know.
If you say so. With the two painted Zs, if you think it looks like trash container, I'm at a loss for words.
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Kyiv junta ombudsman Lyudmila Denisova sacked for generating fake news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRxfnC3n44
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why does your vatnik minds always revolving around fake news, is it because of the constant exposure to state media?
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Lyudmila Denisova was spreading outright lies and inciting hatred to russian soldiers.
But I wonder the real reason for the dismissal, because the government saw the light or because Denisova was her job poorly?
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Western countries caught them, lies, they had no other choice but to get rid of her claiming her profiting from some wheel-chairs crap, no one can buy!
Arestovich, ukrop propagandist, said it long ago - "if we stop lying, it will all collapse".
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why does your vatnik minds always revolves around fake news, is it because of the constant exposure to state media?
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Some major developments - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-agrees-send-advanced-rockets-ukraine-2022-06-01/
US has agreed to provide HIMARS .... and Russia has started to do nuclear drills.
Lets hope this does not escalate further. And by that I mean Russia gets the fuck out of a country it has no fucking reason to be in.
IMO I hope Ukraine holds its promise not to use the HIMARS to strike inside Russia. But its going to be interesting to see what will Kremlins propaganda try to push this time... Will Putin again order terrorist attacks to be carried out within his own country to blame it on Ukraine and start a bigger war? I wouldn't put it past his delusional little psycho mind.
Also its interesting what will come of the 6th sanction package. Embargo on 90% of RUS oil would be a blow to Russian economy as much as it would be on EU economy. We already have the gas price doubled since the start of war.. so as always the gas cartels speculating on world events to maximize the profits. What will happen when the price of oil actually goes up quit a lot? 5 EUR par liter of diesel? .... Good job on Russia to literally ruin the whole fucking world with gas and food shortages. All you have to do is to let Ukraine be. But no - Russian propaganda is of course trying to as always switch the narrative on how Ukraine just has to give up for this to end... NO, you have to get the fuck out of a sovereign country,. Lunatics.
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Lulz, printing trillion dollars/shell beads and blame inflation on Russia, you can do better, lunatics!
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Or give us links on evidence of your words, but not links to the news that came out, namely, evidence of such activites, finished or ongoing courts about this questions, decisions of these courts. Proof of!
Just doing the same idiotic shit you do in this thread. Speculating on stuff. If there would be proof of Putin doing false flags inside Russia he would have been overthrown in a minute. Of course he hid everything if he has done these. But the whole world is pretty much sure of it.
Russia here are powerless. Democracy.
Takes the cake as the most stupid thing youve said in this thread up to this point. Russia literally has invaded a country. And any sanctions and reactions are consequences of it. You just have to stop a needless war of killing people and destroying a country. But of course - you are the victim. Poor poor Russia.
I mean I don't want to hate Russia and Russians as I know these are stupid political games played by rich and powerful and has absolute shit to di with you, me or any other regular civilian.... But you sure are not making it easy for me.
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If someone decide to impose sanctions against a sovereign state, then the one who introduced them is to blame for the consequences of these sanctions. There can be no other culprits.
Just like when you invade a sovereign state? Has your mental gymnastics started to fail you?
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If someone decide to impose sanctions against a sovereign state, then the one who introduced them is to blame for the consequences of these sanctions. There can be no other culprits.
If someone decides to invade a sovereign state, then the one who invaded is to blame for the consequences of these sanctions. There can be no other culprits.
You seem confused, i rephrased your sentence, so it makes sense. You don't need to thank me, you're welcome
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You forget that Russia is ready to supply its resources to European countries, but they themselves refuse it. Russia here are powerless. Democracy.
it's because our morality compass is still in order and we don't support bully states
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