Just a reminder what Epic Games really thinks about PC platform

Hear, hear

Will you buy games on Epic Games Store?

if they add regional pricing, I will.

Will I use their launcher? Yes, with such freebies as Subnautica, ofc I will.

Valve destroyed steam store with allowing every kid to release his asset-flip crap, for me steam is not user--friendly store anymore.
All valve could do - hundreads of new skins for community market xD

It's good to have controversial opinions. So your main point is, they are basically hypocrites who used to bash PC-Gaming-Market and eventually changed their minds?
Thanks for your great Unreal gib. :)
the poll is lacking a "maybe" option

I definitely won't be buying anything from them. It'll depend on what they give away for free, to see if I'll even make an account with them. Subnautica isn't enough for me to make an account there, when I can just wait for a steam key in a bundle, so, I'll wait and see what else they've got.

On the topic of 82786428 different pc clients, I am also upset that Rage 2 is apparently going to be Bethnet exclusive

More competition is always good, whether or not you'll actually make use of them is irrelevant. I'm cheering for them as a Steam user who is unlikely to move over anytime soon. Let them show what they can offer first, we can always make a decision later. The biggest advantage of Steam that I care about is how I can buy games I want without spending a penny of real money, something other services do not offer. If they bring good deals on good titles from good publishers and the store actually achieves something like GOG but for AAA games, then I'm very likely to use it for those titles I can't get with my virtual gaben money.

And until that happens, my wallet is safe while I'm having fun spending my eurogabens. I can't see why I shouldn't buy in their store just because some of their employees had that opinion or other one, it's their service that they offer to me that matters, not what they think about PC gaming. If GabeN now said that Steam platform is the worst thing that has ever happened to him, I'd still use it because the service satisfies me. They can all have the single worst opinion at Valve about everything, until I can see the degradation in the service I'm using, I'd gladly keep using it further.

I get your point, but if we start the "what the X publisher did" game, our wallet will be safe forever :p

You realise that people can change? To quote Cliffy B, four years after the piece you quoted:

Epic’s Cliffy “Cliffy B” Bleszinski B just told a huge crowd of developers at 2012’s GDC that when starting up a developer, forget Xbox Live, PSN, iOS, Android and Windows phones, and instead make games for PC. Condemning the way Microsoft and Sony treat indies, and dismissing mobile gaming, the Unreal developer said that the PC was the only place to start.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/09/epics-cliff-bleszinski-says-new-devs-should-make-for-pc/

This store is a good thing, not lastly for devs who get the best revenue cut deal anywhere apart from maybe Itch (not quite sure how it works there). Valve's stranglehold on the PC gaming market has been going on for far too long. Sweeney's column in the Guardian spoke truth back then, and it still stands now. Any one actor with monopoly power is bad for the entire market. It's also not as if these (timed, in some cases) exclusives will really hurt you either. The games can be installed and run on any damn PC that runs Windows, unlike some kind of forced fractured hardware bound exclusivity à la consoleland, or Microsoft's unique power to potentially enforce UWP.

And don't say you can't be bothered to install "yet another launcher", will another piece of software among the hundreds you already have installed kill you? Remember the times when you bought a game, had to open the box and pop the CD in to... install it? How many pieces of loose software did you have floating around cluttering up your PC back then? Or maybe you (the collective "you", not necessarily you specifically) weren't around yet back when that was the norm? PC gaming is far more centralised and convenient for the user than it has ever been at any point in history. Get some perspective.

It's time to trademark epicgifts.com!

"Epic won't get a single penny from me"
"here is a giveaway of Unreal franchise pack"
Everyone does something wrong so, if we had to choose based on ethics, we would not live anymore.

View attached image.

says Cliffy B

You can immediately throw away everything what that dork ever said. He isn't with epic anymore and has ruined not just one but two games since.

Most of your citings are from a decade ago, that is a bit long, things can indeed change over time. Piracy blamer former president Mike Capps left in 2013 for example.

What they do you with that Fortnite money now is bring Journey over to the PC, that alone is worth quite a bit and a win for the platform.
And I won't mind getting Subnautica for free either. I likely won't buy anything from their store, just like I don't really buy directly on steam since long neither.

No one has taken Cliffy B seriously in over a decade.

"it depends" is missing on the poll.

If they get lots of big exclusive they might end up as a serious competition for Steam. Also free games on a regular basis and agressive prices are more or less mandatory if they want to succeed.

People will start saying "i ain't gonna buy anything from them" until the day they bring something like Cyberpunk 2077, that day i'll sit there with my popcorn and watch the reactions.

For me it's enough to read their terms and conditions to see that it's just another "your account doesn't belong to you" and "games you bought don't belong to you" and "we can terminate your account at any time for any reason we want" company.
So nope - I would rather buy drm free games on GOG (or other places like that).

Yes - I will install their client to play free subnautica and maybe more - but they will need much more than just some freebies to make me buy stuff in their store. Or even keep that launcher or hdd.
Like functional client that met some standards.
Take "game sessions" for example. I grabbed zombie army trilogy from them and they convinced me to NOT buy at their store and not use their launcher. It was adding itself to autostart, had p2p functionality enabled by default, no options and was showing a lot of adverts... I don't mind some adverts before launching game obtained for free or after quitting it... but seeing those while playing was really annoying.

2007~2011 were bad times, the world economy was in disarray, and PC gaming in general was doing very poorly (remember, even Crysis which came out in 2007 to much fanfare was considered a commercial failure). I don't blame them at all for doing anything they could to try and keep their business profitable at a time when nearly every other studio seemed to be going bankrupt.

That said, I bought UT3 the day it came out, and the single player was absolutely terrible (no idea about multiplayer since I never tried it nor did I care about it). Based off that alone, despite it having good visuals at the time, I don't think it really deserved to sell well.

If they add/have:

• Regional pricing
• A review system
• A refund system
• A wishlist system
• Better deals than Steam
• A good amount of games (or even more) like Steam
• Show interest for customers
• Decent support service
• Multiple options to pay (for those who don't have credit card or paypal)
• Don't spam the store with Fortnite announcements
• Etc

Even if they add all of that I don't know if I would use it. I have many games on steam and me and my friends are confortable with it, they have good deals, that family share thing that I don't use but it's cool, a refund system, etc, basically all the tips that I said above. I'll wait and see if it overcomes Steam as the main gaming store or it's just another failed attempt.

just because they didnt see any future in pc gaming, they are not assholes. you could argue that every single company including valve are assholes. because it is not about consumers or the right thing to do. it is always about money for companies. i could also list many reasons why valve are shit and anti consumer. the only part i like about this situation is that competition is good for us, the consumer. if they get big we will benefit from the fist fight fro us.

If I can get games cheaper on epic store I will.

People change, companies change, I don't give a flying fuck who sells me the game as long as it works and I can enjoy it. (except G2A and other shady sites, fuck those).

I feel you. And just to add to your point - they're offering Subnautica for free. Sure, good game and a lot of people would like to play it (for free). But what if you want the game but really don't want the new launcher/store/program or whatever? Is getting a cracked version still wrong considering the game is literally for free somewhere else, with the only difference being the non-cracked version brings more hassle with it than the cracked one?

I'll give them a chance, anyone that wants to make a DRM free online game market can't be all that bad. That being said I still support GoG when I plan on buying a new game for it's full price.

Epic is trash. Too bad they hold Journey and Hades hostage.

I already have launchers for steam, origin and battle.net (I suspect uplay is also on the pc to some capacity as it autoruns in the background whenever I started AC2 or Far cry 3)... There is room for one more client if the need arrives, though the only title I am interested in epic's lineup is Journey at this moment.

Also it is tiring to hold too much grudge on things a company has said in the past. If they turn out to be scammy with their shop just stop buying games from them.

That actually made sense 10 years ago. PC was not a priority for many big shots, now PC gaming gets a lot more attention, Unreal Engine 4 is widely adopted, there's a money factory called Fortnite, so Epic is more in a stable position to start a proper store. Remember when Steam started? A buggy mess. As usual, time will tell if they are up to it.

Нет, не буду у них покупать. И так уже полно магазинов, что приходится в отдельном файле записывать какая игра и где находится, чтобы не перебирать кучу лаунчеров, когда в очередной раз смотришь на библиотеку и выбираешь во чтобы поиграть. Steam, GOG, Uplay, Origin. Хватит уже. еще и Battle.net до кучи. мне не нужны еще 2 лишних лаунчера от Bethesda и Epic.

З.Ы. Кстати магазин Epic далеко не юзер френдли. нет рейтингов, отзывов. Соответсвтвенно ты не можешь почитать мнение других игроков об игре. Вообще социальной составляющей вроде как не планируется. Соответсвенно не будет руководств по играм. Не будет форумов по играм, где можно было бы обсудить игру, найти решение каких то проблем. Это, на мой взгляд, сугубо publisher friendly, но далеко не user friendly магазин.

No, I will not buy from them. And so there are already a lot of stores, so I`ve record in a separate file which game and where it is, in order not to go through a bunch of launchers, when you once again look at the library and choose what to play. Steam, GOG, Uplay, Origin. Enough. also Battle.net to the heap. I do not need another 2 extra launcher from Bethesda and Epic.

PS. By the way, the Epic store is far from user friendly. no ratings, reviews. Accordingly, you can not read the opinions of other players about the game. In general, the social component seems to be not planned. Correspondingly, there will be no game guides. There will be no forums on games where one could discuss the game, find a solution to some problems. This, in my opinion, is purely publisher friendly, but far from user friendly shop.

i tried looking for these articles some days ago when they announced the platform, thanks for sharing them. ^^