i need suggestions ( all your opinion's are welcome )

Install Gentoo

Well, if you owned both right now, which one would you install and play first? And then go with that one in my opinon.
I never played either of them, but they both seem like good titles so it only really matters what you want to play right now.

Best deal of 2018.

[I voted for Grim Dawn]

My purely subjective choice would be: Grim Dawn. I didn't play any of them and have no real reason to support any over the other.

My advice is for you to pick the one that looks the best to you and forget what others are saying. As long as you're happy with your choice then that one's worth buying.

Grim Dawn one of the best ARPG

I think Grim Dawn is a better option from steam store. If you want Vermintide, you can get it cheaper from traders (the price is about 1 cs:go key=2 EUR)

Grim Dawn. Wonderful game.

Not the most helpful opinion here, but I couldn't choose between the two. They're both so great that you can't really go wrong whichever way you choose to go.

Grim Dawn for sure. One of the best arpg out there.

Vermintide is great if you have friends to play with. The loot system is not that good. (Also players are moving to Vermintide 2)

Depends if you are more on RPG or Action, I'd pick up Grim Dawn personally, the fate of Vermintide is to descend on people connected, 'cause Vermintide 2, but that is just my opinion.

totoally different game...i own both, but i played only warhammer...yes u can play it alone with bots, but it's like left 4 dead..works better in coop...the other is a ARPG like Diablo,Baldur's gate,Titan Quest (same devs if i recall correctly on Grim)..so, as someone above mesaid you, u can buy Grim Dawon and got vermintide for cheap on steamtrades

Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide gameplay feels like Left 4 Dead, so not much "loot" about it. I'd say go for Grim Dawn.

I'd go for Grim Dawn because it's fun even if played alone, I would not say the same for Vermintide.

Grim Dawn. While I haven't really had time to sink into it the brief exposure has been filled with enjoyment whereas I found Vermintide to be a soul less game after only a couple of hours.

Grim Dawn since you like rpg + looting. Vermintide is like Left 4 Dead but with giant rats and not as good.

Grim Dawn is really good! ^^

Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide was quite annoying, especially if you played L4D2. Bad rat game.

Vermintide 2 just got out and looks promising.

Grim Dawn is the best ARPG i ever played.. If only it had dedicated servers! Vermintide was played for a few hours before i put it on the shelf. Apperantly the second one is far better.

I spent 650 hours with Grim Dawn. The best thing about this game is the huge variety of possible character classes. If you want to, you can play this game over and over and you will always find a new way to experiment with new character combinations.

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I'd say Grim Dawn if you want a single player game (that can be played co-op apparently, but imo this type of game is more enjoyable when played alone). But if you want a game for co-op with friends (or perhaps strangers) than go with Vermintide.

GD if you will buy on Steam.

Vermintide was bundled few times, so you can probably get key for a few bucks.

Grim Dawn

Both the games are on an ok sale righty now. Both review well and are worth the current sale price.
GDawn has been bundled 2x and WHV has been in 5 bundles.
You can get price and bundle history at www.isthereanydeal.com

Though it isn't on your list, check out www.pathofexile.com
It is 100% free aarpg on par with Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.
You can also link your steam account if you want.

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