Microsoft FINALLY talks Used Games and DRM for Xbox One (but you're not gonna like it). (Update)

I agree. Maybe they think real games will buy this console anyway. They'll complain but in the end they'd buy it (and that wouldn't surprise me, actually) and by adding this extra stuff they'll get more clients.

There is no such thing like hardcore gamers on consoles (ps, xbox, wii, etc.).

Nope

of course

Probably windows. Only thing I see good on them so far. GFWL and other bullshit makes them bad.

Even tho I didn't own an Xbox, playing Conker's bad fur day, Halo and Ninja Gayden provided me many hours of entertainment and fond memories. Also, Microsoft is an overall superb company. Many people just so happen to be haters.

Because It's xbox, not steam.

Because you wont expect 75% sales on Xbox, that's why. With Steam, you can't resell your games, but at least you can buy them at decent prices. That's why we're ok with it.

Because you (usually) don't get a physical disc with your steam game.

A disc which is by all rights your property, even if its content isn't. With all the rights that entails. Including resale.

Steam is relatively lax with their DRM. It's rare, but when it does break there are shady ways to get around it and still play your games. Even without patching the DRM out, you still have a long time before your Steam games become unplayable. Some users report going for months without disabling offline mode to re-validate their installed games.

offline mode works forever
xbone works 24 hours without internet

Because it's just another way to screw you out of even more money. People who buy a game feel they have the right to borrow it to their friends to play. Much like you can borrow your house, your CD-Player, your Car and bike, everything except "intellectual property". The problem is, CD's are not legally considered physical property, but rather intellectual property. It's like claiming you don't own the bike, you only have a licence to use it's pedal-motor system. Everything else in it, including the design and the "pedal-System" are licensed by it's respective brand and issuer, and your friend must pay a licence in order to use it.Even tho you bought the Bike. But the matter is, the bike itself is only a medium for the "pedal-system". Everyone who uses it has to buy a license to operate it, or face criminal charges, even tho you bought the whole apparatus. Sounds fair?

it's worse then steam you limted to certain amount of hours to play online unlike steam you just log in once and can stay months in offline mode.

You should add this link to your OP. No one should buy this POS bugging device. Unless people like the idea of the US govt. (which means any govt., really) being able to hear everything you speak about in your home, have 3d images of everyone in your household, know their age, sex, character data, and more.

No they can't. There's Nintendo. I find it funny that some people don't even consider it as a threat. I mean, for people that look only at graphics in games they may not exist, but Wii sold most in this generation, it's a fact. It's their most important enemy in Japan too, where NO ONE cares about Xbox. And it was their most important enemy in PSX and PS2 era. So they won't be able to do whatever they want. Also, I think X360 wouldn't sell this well if it was piracyproof. At least, here, in Poland. But I guess it works for other countries too.
So, I still hope it dies. Also, if it dies, it'll be obvious why. I think Sony would rather learn from that failure than take advantage of it.

"We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers."

So they can enable it, or completely block it.

Bill Gates = Microsoft. But I'm pretty sure he's more a part of the pc end of things and not so much the xbox.

Pretty much this. I think it's Steve Balmer who's at the reins now. Yes, the same Balmer of "DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS"

Same here. Like everyone can afford broadband. and not everyone lives in broadband supported areas. hell in my county not even some of the bigger towns and cities have broadband or if they do, it isn't very good.

what if you don't have internet in your house? can't you play games?? plain stupid microsoft move

The US is considered a first world country through-out the world correct? 20% of the US doesnt even have an internet connection, NON at all. How many have a 5mbps connection then JUST in the US, which is MS's largest console market?

Requiring an internet connection, even in this modern day where everything is digital, isnt the best practice if they wish to maximize sales.

... unless your home is in Hawai.

Lifetime wouldn't work with the mandatory installs. It would open it up to abuse. Imagine installing a game onto an Xbox, then passing around that same copy to everyone you know. Without some sort of "phoning home" thing, they can't check to make sure only one person is playing it.

Actually, the frog will jump out of the water. In the experiment that coined the term, the frog's brain was removed.