Guess people are taking steps to make sure you can't just get the cards and then refund the game, resulting in people getting free cards
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can confirm the same - valve sure knows how to piss off its more engaged user-base
and there i was wishing for insta-card drops not long ago, while this is what comes ...
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If it was consistent across all games then I would say it was Valve but since it varies dramatically by game and some games still can be farmed under 2h, I'd say the publishers were the ones to made the decision as to when the cards drop.
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yeah if it were ... though no idea and hard to tell since there's a shi*load of game - running atm. some random indie game
that i got as a key, a long time ago > not refundable anyway > yet 0 cards dropped and like 1hour passed - this is just
silly ... that they can't differentiate between refundable and non refundable games - seems they just don't give a damn
yet
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Am I the only one that actually plays games and doesn't just open them for cards? Seriously this isn't a big deal and if it counters people abusing the system then so be it. I can understand that maybe you want to quickly sell them but just take a bit and enjoy the game and the cards will come before you know it.
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- Buying bundles, farming the cards and selling them while you can. Now that might take a week.
- Sales time, we all want more money towards that.
I've been farming for more than 12 hours, only finished two of eight games, and I'll have more tomorrow when I buy bundles.
For the refundable games, I can understand it there. But the stuff that can't should have it regular times. Valve should have it go off "is X refundable, if so, initial drop time + 2 hours" and let the bundles work normally at least. I don't want to spend 10 hours to get 8 cards from a bundle game where they sell for 5 cents each.
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There seems to be no algorithm. The drop intervals, including initial interval appear set per game.
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I'm of the opinion there should be. They shouldn't force bundle buyers to wait hours to get everything.
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Drop intervals have always been game specific, which means it's probably tied to AppID on the dark side of the database where we can't see it. A bundle game and a (Steam) store-bought game almost always carry the same AppID even when they are different packages.
There is always the remote possibility that it is all a server/load issue exacerbated by the sale, but considering the noted drop interval variances prior to the sale, this seems highly unlikely.
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I'm well aware how they worked. My problem is that they went and extended the times into taking **** forever to farm a few cents. I want them to rework that so games without refunds won't take so long. This was done to stop refunds being used for free funds, those without the ability to refund shouldn't be extended.
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Then again, the goal of the cards is not for people to farm them, but to obtain them by actually playing the games. I'm not sure they're going to do anything towards facilitating a behavior they might not agree with in the first place.
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I actually did a post, on the Steam Community Forums, saying the same thing, among various points. I don't expect it to make any impact, but better than doing nothing, I suppose.
I actually am contemplating firing up S.A.M. and then idling all card games, simultaneously to 2 hours, then turning it over to Idle Master. I still haven't bought most of the stuff I want from the sale, so it will be a huge pain when that bomb hits the badges page. Maybe this actually should be a new Idle Master setting. Idle all games at the same time until 2 hours is hit for their game times, then one at a time. :)
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Cards have a high market value in the first hour of availability, often 10-100 times their eventual value. Many want to cash in on that while they can. Others just want to get the cards out of the way ahead of time. One can always go back and play a game again.
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There i thought for a second, gotta be one of those fellas who's not collecting games, but playing those he gets - LOL.
1,758 Games not played = 74% ... sry. bub, but this just shows you don't care about cards or auto-farming
Not to mention this deliberate new and lazy change is nothing but a statement: "we don't give a fuck" ... and
could be easily adjusted (takes more time to get cards only on still refundable games).
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Whats the adres of site that you used to make this pic?
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https://steamdb.info/calculator/
mine: https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561198077252926/
^ you can either log in or just paste your steam id and it'll load
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2 hours for first card dropping ?!
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Children in africa could have eaten those cards !!
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Seems to be the case indeed.
Cards drop at a normal time intervals ... but only after 2h of playtime ...
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Make cards go away if the game is refunded, problem solved :D
Well, adding +2 hours until drops works too, just bad for people with too many games. Should've bought less games :D
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I'd rather them make new cards unsellable for awhile than have to wait for drops.
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Sucks for little indie games with absolutely max 2,5h of content (like DLC quest).
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I'm glad its not just me. I've been running my new games while I've been at work and not one single card drop out of 4 games running... is mine extra broken?
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Running multiple games actually slows card farming per game.
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there might be a way to cheat the 2-hours wait period by opening several games at once, like, using SAM and letting them run for 2 hours, then closing them and running Idlemaster to farm the cards.
not sure if steam registers playtime when more than one game is running at the same time, but maybe someone could confirm this? (i idled all my games 3 days ago -_- ).
just a thought.
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And why "Games drop cards after 14 days of buy it", thats absurd 4 hours to drop 3 cards, there are games with cards can finish in 2 hours :-\
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I wish there was a button "I swear on HL3 I won't return this game, gimme ma cards now". Guess it wont happen though.
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Since 2 days...
In a lot of games need 1 hour or more to drop a card.
:-\
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