Indiependence Day Anti-Sale 0% discounts- what do you think?

"...support their favorite developers by buying their games at full price."

HAHHAHAHHA

No.

Especially " The average indie developer makes less than $12,000 per year. " part makes me laugh.

Average indie developer is a lazy asshole who wants to make easy money by developing a shitty same-as-every-other platformer game and expects hundreds of thousands people to pay full 15$ for his 2 hour long, 3 months to make, shitty game.

Some of this games may deserve it... but who wanna pay 10$ for Little Inferno?

Full price for a game? How about no....

I have no issue paying full price for indie games that are good...but there's not many, at least by my standards.

Already own the ones that I'd pay full price for anyways (and i actually paid full price for those games).

Everyone has already bent us over and stuck it too us. Now there's no-one left and we have to do it ourselves.

Is ity any wonder they can't make any money when for the most part they don't have a fucking clue.

Dafuq? This only encourages me not to buy anything for full price ever again.

No thanks.

List includes (not so) Affordable Space Adventures

How about you finish your game before asking full price? and then also try to adjust the price to what the game is worth, and not how much you want to earn?

Want to see a great contrast--Trader Joe's supermarket. Except for seasonal items, virtually nothing ever goes on sale--EVER. Do you know why? Because their products are worth their price. They do not have ridiculously high prices, slashed, to lure you into the store, hoping that you might still pay full price for a few gouger prices? The only changes in price are UP, as over the years the cost of inflation slowly boosts the value of many food products.

Here is an idea--never put your game on sale. Ever. Put it out at an appropriate price for its level of development and polish and lure. Only drop the price slowly over the years as your game ages. Not selling many games? See my first suggestion--permanently drop the price where the market will bear the value of your game.

When many older AAA games sell for $3.75-5, and year-old AAA games sell for $7.50 at most, many indie game should be $2.50-3 at first release. You better have a damn good indie game if you want to push for $5-8 at release. I will continue to shug my shoulders at indie titles for $10-15.

Never throw your game in a bundle because your game proves its value from a good trailer of gameplay--not 25 seconds of developer/distributor name dropping--squeeze 2seconds in at the end. I can pause if I really want to read the name of your development team--did you ever notice that credit appear AFTER a movie/game. Do not show too much BS concept art that does not exist in the game--I see many that are guilty of showing 0% gameplay in the trailer.

good thing this isn't as well known (for them) as it'd likely give tem a black eye and most of these games have bundle keys floating around so if one wanted they could just trade for them and not really spend anything. From the list I see there's only about up to 10 games I would pay full price for IF I actually had the money (a rarity)

And like someone said basically, for every one good indie game, there's 4+ bleh ones made by potental Phil Fishes.

If you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest.

While it's true that they (or at least some of these) deserve full price, there are a lot of game that I would have never bought at all (or even never heard of) if it wasn't for big discounts or bundles. So I'm really not convinced that they would make more benefits if big discounts and bundles weren't what we're used to, because there would be a lot less people buying them.

For most of the games listed, I'd say the full price is too high by about a third to a half. Fix that and I wouldn't need to wait for sales to get the price I think is right.

No. Besides, anyone can buy the games at full price any time if they want to support someone. So why make a big "deal" out of it? (pun intended)

It's undoubtedly true that stuff like Steam and their sales have changed forever the perception of a game's monetary value. I don't know you, but whenever I look at Blizzard's "sales" it's like they're coming from a parallel universe. There's no chance in hell I'm going to ever try Diablo 3 when on sale I'm looking at a $40 price point (everybody and their cats keep saying the expansion is pretty much a must). So many other games I could buy with that sum.

At the end of the day, however, it's a matter of picking a price point that feels appropriate to the nature of the product. Many newer, smaller games seem to have adjusted and we're seeing many titles approaching impulse buy territory even at full price.

It helps to reason in terms of revenue rather a price point: if a $4.99 price point sells ten times as many copies as $19.99, there really is very little to argue. But many devs are risk averse, and that's understandable especially for new indies who can only base their choices on information shared by other devs and, if they're lucky, the input provided by Steam.

There would be something to be said, however, about seeing massive indie hits like World of Goo sitting at $20 in that bunch, but I'll just stop at:

Best of luck to them all.

It's all their fault. First they set the price too high, then within a month they give 75% off, then they put their game in a bundle to get a quick high quantity sale. And now they are wondering why don't we want to pay full price for their game. Sometimes the game is not even finished (early access)...
Look at Minecraft, first it was sold 75% off as Alpha, then 50% off as Beta and now they are selling for full price ever since and people still keep buying it.

12,000 per year?! That's great o.o You can't even count how many portuguese would like to win 1000$ per month..

It all comes down to value for money.
Some games represent value and others do not.

The sad part is that the majority of products on the market end up being inflated. They don't represent the value that is asked for them.
As a result people will resort more and more to sales, devalueing video games in its entirety making it harder for the good ones to keep coming.

Its a give and take. I agree, if its a good game - don't get it on sale. Support the dev.

About the only Indie game I can think of that is worth buying full price is Terraria.

I'm not going to buy games at full price just because a few indie developers want to send a message. Price is not my only motivator and I'm 100% willing to pay full price for quality. Make a great game and let your passion show through. Cook, serve delicious, meat boy, binding of issac are some examples. All were successful too.

I bet NotGTAV made more money this weekend than every single game on this page put together, just by launching at $.75 - and it is a stupidly shallow game revolving around a single joke (don't get me wrong, I think it was well timed and bought it myself). $5-$20 for an hour or three of entertainment when we have so very very many options just won't happen, especially when most indie titles just end up sitting in backlog for years.

I don't even even buy AAA games full price, why would I do it for Indie games which will eventually (or already are) bundled? :P

I'm going to try to remember those developers who tried to guilt-trap people into paying full price. You want to make a stand? Don't put your game into a bundle to begin with. You can't be part of the "problem" and the "solution" at the same time, it's too damn convenient.