RADICAL IDEA: double/triple/octuple(jk) points of entering giveaways

Personally I agree. I pretty much enter lots of games I'm just slightly intrested in just because my points are always near the cap. I'd rather spend more points on games I really want

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I was thinking this idea however a few days ago and was meaning to talk to Cg about it.
But it looks like i have an ideal companion! :D

Now we can get those greedy dogs out of here and get some true love back in games once again.

Kijib you surprise more and more everyday <3

Or you could generate invites and seed the around sites.
But the idea is interesting none the less.

This is the worst Idea I have heard in the forum so far.

I think it would be better if you could spend more points in order to get more than one 'entry', so if you really want that game, you would get more chances, and those who doesn't really want, they won't waste more points, and instead of it, they will use it in other games they would really want. So at the end, it's more or lees the same, cos they spend more points but just in the games they want. There's no need to complicate the point system, just let make more chances to win a game by doubling your entry points.

You could always use your extra points to buy "open tickets" for people that don't have enough points to claim.

I don't get your argument, kijib. If you have too many points, and you're tempted to enter a giveaway for a game you're not all that amped for, then it isn't the site's or anyone else's job to rein you in. Get a hold of yourself, and either invite people to the site or just wait for those golden opportunities.

Well, instead of increasing the cost to entry, we would lower the percentage of points distributed. At the moment, it's 10%. If users are finding they have extra points, and enter for giveaways only to use them up, it should be lowered. For example, if we lowered it to 5%, you would be able to enter half as many giveaways, but at the same time, you would have double the chances of winning those giveaways, since competing entries would be cut in half. It's a simple tradeoff, you just have to let me know which you prefer.

I'd rather have a "spend points get pointless stuff for the website" doodad. Like hats.

Hrm, maybe allow people posting giveaways to increase how many points it takes to buy in to their giveaways? Just a thought I had. Still thinking about whether this could work or not.

my 2 cents: regardless of mechanism to change it, giveaways are becoming too crowded. maybe points gained per dollar could be tried as a ratio to number of members but from what i see, the points are not limiting enough with this number of members

I'm definitely on the side of having waaaay more points then I could use, and everytime i spend some I'm right back up to 300 almost immediately, and given that the number of members and consequently the number of entrants for each giveaway is increasing so rapidly I'd be completely in favor increasing the point value of each game (or decreasing how many points we get when new games are put up for giveaway).
It seems there are so many points flowing through the system that they don't really mean much anymore, I can spend on anything anytime and I'll be back up to 300 quickly enough that their irrelevant to me.

Make points meaningful, and encourage people to spend them on games they really want... not just anything that even vaguely catches their attention. Which one pretty much can do now.

I think it would be more effective if it were limited to x entries per day rather than changing the values. As a result more invites would be created from the saved points. On a side thought, what if invites were more expensive?

Having a ton of points is, in part, due to the recent fake giveaways.

Sorry, i don't have time to read that all, but i'll state a problem in here. current system (with 10%) is great. The only problem is 90% of users don't need 90% of giveaways (which are DM MP, HB and some old Valve games, like CS and Portal). That's why you have enough points to enter every other giveaway. Once the flood of those useless giveaways stops, the whole thing will work great.
A small idea how to solve a problem about those useless giveaways is make them absolutely free.
i.e. once a same game appears more than e.g. 10 times a week, it is considered a flood and any other giveaway of that game costs nothing to enter and also does not provide any points.

I agree. There is no real chance in winning anything if everyone can enter every giveaway, even for games they just semi want. I know exactly how you feel, I didn't enter any Magicka giveaway so far because im not interested in that game. Today I reached 300 Points. If I see it again, I will go for it, even though there are people who might really wanna have it.

By the rate we generate points (basically most from Humble frozenbyte bundles) we have to address this issue.
Maybe change the way Humble Bundles work (because most of those given away here are bought for like 0.01$ anyway).

I enter both for games that I know I want, but haven't bought, or I also sometimes enter for games that I think I might like, and that I am interested in. I don't personally see a problem with that. I might win a game that I might not have bought, and end up loving it to death.

Of course, I don't enter for games that I don't want, or games I don't have the slightest bit of interest in, but I don't see a problem entering for games I have an interest in.

I think a better way of doing it would simply be to add more filter options when you create a giveaway. Things like a max number of entries allowed, the same as we have a time limit we are able to set.

Frozen Synapse giveaways are expensive. I'm fine with the points right now :|

At least 'till I get my Frozen Synapse >_>

There absolutely is an issue here. I've been a member of the site for about a week now - mostly entering in giveaways that I really want, want, kind of want, or "ok, it would be nice to have this game I guess." And I'm still sitting at a comfortable 247P. There are far too many points being distributed with far too many entries per giveaway. The realization recently occurred to me that there is no need to hoard points because there aren't many AAA or sleeper hit titles hitting the front page at all. I like the ideas of lowering it from 10% to 5%, or even 3%. Also raising the cost of an invite to 2x or 3x. Additionally, consider "perks" for senior members or those who are REALLY contributing to the site with their giveaways, because freeloaders will always outnumber the generous. This would be really help out.

This is getting unbearable, too many members, too many giveaways (I'll explain what's the bad thing) and too much points. We need the giveaways to be more expensive, to make this community be even more select with what they waste their points on. Right now you get RUSE 25 Copies at 1100 entries, lol. Expensive giveaways meant harvesting points would actually make sense (since right now you can enter pretty much everything and still have points) and make people, although enter less giveaways, participate in giveaways that offer the games that they really desire, not those would they just now heard about or saw 'em in the front page and thought "Mmm, why not? I have 200P left anyway"...

I agree with Making Enter's cost More Point's, Due to the Fact that 1. People will have to spend there point wisely and 2. It will give people that actually want the game a better chance at getting it (Like you said, people prob enter for the heck of it). Though, I would only say Double the Current Cost.

I think this is just a temporary issue. We just had a huge steam sale and people used this opportunity to make giveaways. That means extra points -> extra invite codes -> new people with lots of extra copies of portal, HB, or Potato Sack games.

I'm quite sure in a week or two things will go back to normal without doing anything.

How about that the person who creates the giveaway can adjust the points needed for the entry.
BUT they may not go lower than the minimal requirement of points of the giveaway.

As example :
Portal 2 = 50 points. The creator of this giveaway can adjust the amount of points, but cannot go lower than 50. He can change the points to 51, 52, 53 etc, therefore people who really want the game will participate and blablablabla

You could just, like, you know, not be a total dick and have some self control. Then we wouldn't have problems like these.