Gift Sent/Won Ratio?

I'd at least like the option to set some of my giveaways for the folks who have given more than they've won.

You can do this by meeting nice people on forum and manually adding them to your Whitelist and then running "whitelist only" giveaways.
P.S. I may be wrong but I believe that those who gave away significantly more games than they won don't really feel bad about sent/won ratio.

I don't think a mechanism like that should be in place, because then everyone would use it and it would force people to give if they want to win. If you give because the site forces you to, it pretty much defeats the purpose.

What some people do and you can do, is make a group and only add people with a ratio you're ok with, and then make giveaways just for that group.

We currently have no built-in settings to restrict your giveaway to users with a certain ratio, but there are some workarounds.

You could create a "whitelist thread" where people could post and you can add them to your whitelist if you're happy with their ratio, then make whitelist giveaways for these users.

When you'll reach a contributor level of 5.75, you might also be interested in the Charitable Losers group.

In my opinion it's quite simple really.If you joined to give games away then keep doing so and if you joined to win games then try maintaining 1:1 ratio.I'm pretty new here myself, but what i have seen so far is that a lot of people really doesn't like so called leechers and low levels.
As for myself, i don't really care about stats or ratio nor anything else, i'm just happy i can cheer up somebody with a gift :)

P.S. Welcome to SG and enjoy your stay :)

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Or you can put a level limit to people who enter, some people who participates in groups giveaway have won a lot but also gave a lot, sometimes only for their group though, but you won't have winner who just gave out a bundle game and ammassed 50 wins as winners.

As Rupti said you could also take part in group or make whitelist only giveaway.

My position is that the give/win ratio isn't always fair. It discriminates against those who are lucky and those who can't afford a ton of games to give away. I know this isn't always the case. Also the problem with this would be when people have given away a massive amount of games, but have also won a lot of games. They've still contributed a lot of gifts to the site, but would be penalized for their winnings (think about it like this, a person with 10 gifts given and 1 win has a better ratio than a person with 100 gifts given and 11 wins).

Also, as you stated, it is mathematically impossible for everyone to have more gives than wins, this automatically discriminates everyone that doesn't happen to fall into that category of more gives than wins, despite how much they've actually given.

So what I'm trying to say is, this is a giveaway site, you give to random people because you want to. Also, lets face the facts, if you won every single giveaway you entered, wouldn't you be overjoyed even though your ratio would probably be crap?

Anyway, I believe the level system works fine as it is as it measures a user by how generous they are, not by how lucky they are. If you REALLY want to filter out who can enter your giveaways, then either make a whitelist or your own giveaway group.

well..personally i try to gift more of what i receive :p or at least 1:1

You could also make forum giveaways (invite only, then post the link here), this usually filters most of the people who don't care about the community. And maybe do a puzzle. We love puzzles here :3

also, welcome :)

Hi, fartheststar! Welcome to Steamgifts. ^^

Like everyone already said, a whitelist would be a proper choice. Another idea would be to create a private Steam group and only invite the people you want (you could create a group recruitment thread here on Steamgifts to get you started) and create group giveaways exclusive to your new group.

However, a whitelist is basically the same thing and is much easier to maintain/manage (in my opinion, anyways). :P

As others have mentioned, your whitelist is an option, but there are many groups out there as well that deal with ratios and might be a better option. Some groups track global ratios and others track ratios within the group, so there are many options available. Nothing stopping you from creating your own group either.
I am assuming the ratio you are looking for in regards to value and not game count as someone can send 1 $60 game vs someone else's 60 $1 games. The main problem I have with ratios is the same as with CV, it isnt a true representation of how generous you are. The CV has no idea how much you paid for the games you giveaway. Someone might see a popular game and decide to give it away at full price, whereas a month ago someone bought it in a bundle for next to nothing. According to the CV they are the same thing, though one person maybe bought it for 10-20x the price, or much more. Besides, if you are worried about ratio/levels/etc then you might as well trade your games away instead of gifting them. Seems strange to me that some use the site as a trading system where the game you get is semi-random.
Anyway, welcome to the site, hope you enjoy your stay :D

I would LOVE if the current sent-only level system would be replaced with a sent/won ratio level system with the current checks for bundles and non-bundles in place – essentially calculating a CV for won games too in the equation. (Before being accused of hypocrisy: you can delete my whole "Sent" value, I would still want this.)
But this would more than likely not only bump down 90% of the level 5+ users to around level 1-2, but also cause a revolt among them. :)

I actually had a really nice even ratio until like a month ago, but then things happened.

Personally I prefer a straight "number of wins" condition, and have suggested it many times before. I don't think that someone with 100 wins and 1000 given is more worthy of winning than someone with no giveaways and zero wins (or one win). I'd rather see giveaways go to those who haven't won a lot than to those who have a major collection of wins regardless of how much they've given. For someone who wants to consider more than just the number of wins it would always possible to combine both criteria: level and number of wins.

I understand what you're saying and agree. I just had to give a gift to someone with 97 wins that never gave a single game up... Just felt so bad.
Was thought that I should put a level restriction of 1 at least.

I just started out entering and creating giveaways, and the last one i did was through a thread where i wrote a bit about the game and told people to only enter if they are interested in it. That way (hopefuly) only people that want to play it will win it, and not just by card idlers. You could also do a wishlist only GA and add them by hand, but that's a bit time consuming. Up to you m8.

I very much support the idea of a ratio slider for public GA's (based upon CV).

Makes way more sense than levels IMHO. Having both would be optimal tho, so as to provide maximum flexibility for everyone here.

Welcome to steam gifts! :3

Personally anyone can get to level 1, so if you are really bothered you can set giveaways to level 2. I personally try to keep my ratio in favour of giving(but it's rather difficult when you don't have the income). But as been said multiple times... doing puzzles, joining groups, being more active in the community to add fellow gifters into your whitelist will get around leachers and whatnot!

Honestly the levelling system is great, there is no need for change, at least to this degree <3

I'd say the best way of keeping them open to as many ppl as possible, but restrict to those you feel do not deserve it, is to use the blacklist. You can also see all entries on your GAs and randomly scan a GA for leechers. Also, lvl1 / 2 restriction works well as a buffer, since I speculate there are far more leechers under lvl 2 than there are above it.
I prefer this over whitelist because this way you aren't closing the doors to basically everyone.