Will it really be that easy to exploit the XBone's DRM?

im preety sure you need the disct on top of the registration, microsoft aint that stupid you know. well sure they are stupid but not that much

Step 3 is the catch.

i think that when your friend will link the game with his account, your access to the game will be revoked. Only one account per game.

Oh the eggs bawks. LOL

The fee is unknown, and if nothing else, that will help Microsoft more. They will get a bigger cut, since the friends aren't paying the store with their fee.

• You buy and install Collar of Duty.
• You give the Collar of Duty disc to a friend.
• This friend pays retail price to register Collar of Duty to his/her account.
• The game is then removed from your Xbox account.

i'm pretty sure i read that they deactivate the game on the first machine/account when a different one registers it

I think it is still too soon to be certain of anything in regards to the next gen consoles.

I'm pretty sure you're forgetting the disc part of this equation.

The fee was rumoured to be the retail price of the game itself. If the game is at 50€ retail price, thats the fee your friend is going to pay for it.

What microsoft is concerned about is on how the fee should be split among the gaming companies and themselves, because they all went like "If microsoft found a way to request money from gamers when they buy used games, then we companies diserve to get our fair share from the fee". I also heard playstation was considering a similiar move, except that the gaming companies would put the price on the fee themselves, if any fee at all. Microsoft is going to brutally force a fee no matter what.

But in all honesty, i think people should trade consoles between friends from now on, it's that simple. We can't trade games between friends without paying fees, if a friend wants to try a game i have, i will have to trade my console with his. I know it's stupid, but it's what to expect from lousy companies that only see money ahead of their time, untill something awfull happens.

Also i had this in mind... if we buy an original game from shop and resell it there, if the shop supports the terms & conditions of xboxone, i'm pretty sure that a customer will be able to "reset" the game within the shop. The person working there could always register the game again for another use if we end up paying the fee physically. I would dislike paying fees using personal info through the xbox store or something. And perhaps with this, games prices could still drop a little, you know when a game isn't original anymore, the default value of the game cannot remain the same, it has to be cheaper. Even if it is only 10€ cless, it's still something.

IIRC, an online dealer mentioned that MS told them that they'd be setting a maximum used games discount of 10%

Collards of doodie?

Yeah that "small fee" is stated to be anywhere from 30 to 60 USD and when someone else registers the game its taken off of your account so you cant play it until you register it again for the same fee.

So basically lending games to your friends becomes the most expensive thing you can do.

that "small fee" is the full price of the game.

Or maybe your friend pays a small fee. $3.50 or so for a day of gameplay. $10.00 for 7 days. Idk, kinda makes sense doesn't it?

I miss the old days ... had so much fun as a kid trading games with my friends :(

I thought the 'small fee' was the full price of the game?

I just came here to say that every time I see this thread title, I read it as X-Bone.

Not so small fee i think. Also i think the game gets disabled from the previous account.

Think of the "small fee" like what gamestop would charge you for a just released new game. At launch the game cost 60 dollars. "Used" that same disc will cost 50 dollars, 45 if its a few months old.

So yes, technically, MS is "losing" money by people being "smart" and trading discs. However, how many people, in the context of the gaming/console user base, would do this, even if the fee was 50% of the game, AND you forget to add in the fact that the actual used game market, of which MS and game devs get nothing from is now out of the picture. So every legit copy adds to devs/pubs pockets which would be far more then any they would lose with the above thought.

Its the same logic that, "Well, since you can save your steam account credentials on other pc's and go into offline mode, steam is bound to fail since no one will have to buy games anymore, just trade accounts!"

XBone's DRM? At first, I read that as "crossbones", like ones in pirate flags. Maybe that name instigates subliminal messages for piracy? =O

Why, in the name of Etro, would anyone even consider touching such a foul thing?

TC, it deactivates it on the account that previously owned it. In addition, the fee is $60.