I have the same GPU. (by asus) The temps never go up to 65 oC when i play a heavy game (like gta v). I think you have to download msi afterburner. I'll upload a photo with the curve i use everyday.
Pros:
-> Fans arent spinning on iddle (better lifespan)
-> Temp on full load <65 oC
-> Fans spinnin' at good ratio without making extream noise
Cons:
-> A little bit high iddle temp (close to 40 oC)
My ambitient temp is close to 21 oC
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Mine is sitting at 47 right now with just chrome open and steam running (no games)
I'll take a look at the msi afterburner.
I have these controls in the GPUTweak. I haven't ever touched them. Should turn off the auto fan and go manual?
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Auto fan can be used to keep your temps lower, defaults always seem to let the cards get a little toasty. However, I don't think 80 degree would cause a grey screen. It's a little warm , but the temp is not outrageous
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It's pretty damn high in Celsius. :X
For the most part you don't want to break 60C on anything, and below 40C is best.
By 90C you're risking automatic shutdowns or crashes.
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Below 40 is an incredibly low temperature, probably not attainable for 99% of people
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Below 40C is where you put minimal wear on your GPU and CPU. Ideal doesn't necessarily mean easily attainable. :P Both my GPU and CPU [on this dying computer] hover at 55C and go up to 70C on load. Prior to dying, though, it was 35C/55C.
In other words, even as I may espouse it as a benchmark, that doesn't mean it's something I'd expect people to be running at. :P
As for my first sentence, that was just in context of the understated 'a little warm'. 'damn high' was meant to be a reference to the temperature being far too hot to touch, rather than a reference to its effect on load.
Though, that implication isn't unwarranted- willingly putting that much stress on your computer without putting effort into improving your cooling just seems an unnecessary sabotage of the lifespan of your rig, regardless of if it's maintainable or not.
It's a difference in mentality between those that think 'not risking shutdown or immediate, dramatic damage' is the concern, against those who consider the long-term lifespan of their rig and try their best to extend the life of their rig where possible.
In other words, you ought strive for 40, you can willingly accept 60, you can tolerate anything below 80, but past 80 you're just being indulgent to your immediate whims without consideration of the resources you're wearing down [which is your prerogative
Regardless of what stresses you personally find worth putting your computer through, those numbers still work as good benchmarks to consider in addition to the "'shit, my computer is on fire" benchmark.
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Maybe if you are water cooling. On air, I don't see those number being realistic. Is it even possible to stay below 40 with any kind of load? My GTX 580 is idling right now at 37.
Also, you don't want to break 60? This is highly dependent on what CPU and GPU you are running. My GTX 580 doesn't thermal throttle till 97C and the 3570k is 105C. I feel perfectly safe letting either one run at 75C for extended periods of time. My GPU runs around 80 at full load.
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My trusty overclocked gtx 750 ti idles at 29 degrees everytime, love it
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The asus strix makes the fans spins at 31% and above. At 32% spinning only the one fan. At 33+ % both fans spinning. I suggest you go for msi afterburner, i had GpuTweak too and change to Msi's program. Copy my curve and you will be safe, just trust me. I use that curve close to 1 and a half year without any problem.
On the other hand if you want to tweak (Overclock) your GPU. You can do that with msi afterburner as well.
You are doing well you have the fans on auto mode but Asus makes that gpu spins it's fans when it really need them. (low noise)
The temps that will start making you feel scared is above 90 oC.
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Seems a little bit hot. Set up something so you have a log* of your CPU/GPU temps. That way you can see what was going on at the time your PC locks up.
*Many programs will do this. I use HWInfo64 but there are dozens of others.
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80 degrees is about the maximum it should run...you should check if the fan speed is also maxed out...
maybe you are on a setting that loweres the fan speed in favor of silence
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how hot does the cpu get when idle? could be the cpu overheating, not the graphics card. A lot of the fans that come with cpus aren't quite up to the task. you might want to consider getting a third party cpu fan, like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
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Download MSI Afterburner and set a more aggressive fan profile if you feel it's getting too hot. 80C is a little on the warm side (70 is much better), but the default fan profiles typically suck, so I always set my own.
You card seems on the warm side at idle (I read above it's at 47C with just Chrome open?) . My 970's are both about 33C right now (average summer day) with the fans at about 30%. 47C is fine for idle, don't get me wrong, but just one more indicator that your fan profile is very passive (default usually).
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I would advise against this because it will most likely void the warranty of the card. 70-80C on max load is fine.
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Well, I'm not into technical things either and I'm far from being an expert. My case is really weird, the only game that actually forced me to restart the PC like yours is Rocket League!!! I've played Assassin's. Creed Unity, GTA V, Shadow of Mordor... no problem with them...
As others said, try setting up the fan manually to the max and see what happens. I'm not much of a help since I'm using a AMD card but it should not be hard to find. In my case that option is in the overdrive (overclocking) section.
And, well, I don't think that's the problem but... maybe the air flow in the case is not how it is suppose to flow? What about other games? If you end up thinking the problem is the cpu, go for an EVO 212 cpu cooler if you don't feel like spending a lot. Works like a charm. I was using the stock cooler for my CPU for some months and once I've changed it to that one I've lowered my whole PC temperature a lot. It's a pretty big cooler though, be sure there is enough room inside your case for it.
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Temps are a little high but not dangerous yet. Maybe airflow in your case is the problem? How many case fans do you have?
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I have what came with the tower.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119256
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The specification on that site says it only has one front led fan. If that's true you need at least one additional in the back to take the hot air out of the case.
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I've recently switched from NVidia cards to AMD, but I do recall that most NVidia run at lower temps then AMD's - and yours is running a LOT hotter than my AMD now.
Download MSI afterburner (It will work even without an MSI card), and monitor your temps while playing - either on a separate screen or logging to a file. You should be able to see the rate of cooling/usage for both CPU and GPU, and from there work out if you are pushing it too hard.
Most GPU's tend to pixelate or "artefact" before crashing, so if you are not seeing random shapes/colours on you screen that would lead me to think it's not your GPU.
Check with your CPU vendor (You did not mention your chip/type in OP) and find out your max operating temps.
Compare them against your log.
CPU's also tend to stutter just before an over heat, and you have not noticed that yet?
Might not be your CPU.
Finally check your RAM - I note that no-one else has mentioned this yet and am amused - RAM is one of the most common issues with over heating.
Not only can they overheat more rapidly then GPU's and CPU because of lack of cooling but still a good portion of RAM comes without heatsinks!
For some reason most motherboard manufacturers are still placing 2 - 8 banks of ram right next to the CPU and if you are using a standard heatsink/fan combo that just flows heat onto you RAM. (Water cooled systems even AIO's are much less affected by this.)
Afterburner can also monitor these temps. If you find that they are getting hot a simple solution is to add some RAM heatsinks *At about $4@ they are well worth the investment.
Also improve the airflow in your case (no that's not more cooling) it's basically just making sure the hot air is removed instead of circulating around and heating all the components. This can be accomplished by inserting a few 120 mm fans around openings in the PC - Top/Front/Rear even bottom slots are common in machine these days. I recall many years ago before they were common, over clocking my old machines and having to drill air holes myself and then supergluing old case fans to the outside of my rig. It looked horrible and my friends laughed at me... for all of 5 minutes - then they saw it worked and copied me.
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What do you mean "check the ram"
I run 24GB of RAM. I am not using that on any game. I start to hit that with photo and video editing at times.
I just put a fan, a normal house fan blowing around my PC to see what that does.
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he means your RAM could overheat..has nothing to do with the amount of RAM you have
but I still think its unlikely unless you overclocked it...and as far as i know theres no way to check it apart from touching it xD
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Pretty sure Afterburner will also monitor RAM temp if configured - if not GPUZ will and there are 2 or 3 other programs freeware that will. You could also use a cheap laser measure as well.
And while RAM will overheat if overclocked, some people will find that putting a lot of graphics pressure in it like in some AAA titles will increase heat. OC'ing the CPU can raise ambient temps as well (As stated before in reference to the heatsink/fan combo) which in turn will affect RAM temp.
Because OP has not experienced pixilation or artefacts, or stuttering it's just the next level of investigation.
It could be nothing of these.
Maybe a TSR is interfering somewhere :)
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Afterburner will also monitor ram temps - check how hot they are running :)
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I have collectively gathered that:
- 99% GPU usage is probably not a problem since noone really mentioned it.
- temp is a little high but not dangerous
- I should have more fans
- I should be using a more aggressive fan usage. (msi afterburner
That sound about right?
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That sounds like a good start - if you try this and face no more issues then you know it's about airflow/temp - and I'd consider investing in either a new case with improved airflow design, or a better cooling system.
It's the grey screen that concerns me -
No pixilation or artefacts means your GPU is probably OK
No stuttering just before a crash of a BSoD means it's unlikely to be your CPU (Have you turned on CPU Warning Temp in Bios/Uefi?).
The Grey Screen seems like the old RAM issues that plagued gamers back in the early 90's that were related to overheating RAM.
But as I stated previously, It could be none of these - Monitor your temps and if it happens again after improving your cooling, start looking at things like TSR (Background programs) and even Power usage.
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Alright, so...
People telling you that 80°C is a lot are wrong, Period. 79°C is usually the temp limit for the boost (just for the boost, doesn't mean your GPU will fry) for GTX 970s, which means as soon as the card hits 79°C it won't boost anymore and eventually will clock down itself back to stock clocks step by step.
Everything depends on your GPU brand and its cooling system.
92°C (not even like 95°C would fry it, but it won't hit that high temps once it's thermal throttling) is the thermal throttling limit for 970. So even 90°C temps are safe.
About the 99% GPU usage.... You do want to be your GPU fully used, don't you? It's completely normal.
You don't have to use agressive fan mode - your fans don't even have to spin for temps below 60°C.
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High GPU usage in of itself is not an issue. Ideally, it shouldn't run like that for long periods of time due to increased physical wear of the media, but still negligible for most people.
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Temp is indeed high, but certainly not at a point where it would harm any components. Once again, it would cause increased wear on them and make them not last as long, as well as decreased performance if they can not operated at peak because of temp. at any time.
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More fans isn't always the answer. Make sure to have them in a smart configuration. I push all of my hot air out the back and top back, and draw cooler air in via the front and top front ( I dropped 3 degrees F with that one being pull instead of push). Make sure you have good cord management, esp. around the gfx card, as that can impede air flow.
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I like to have my fans run a bit more from the get-go, and in return, they don't need to peak as high since it stays cooler, but to each their own.
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It's normal thing, the temp and gpu usage. Did you have the latest vga driver?
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I love playing games but not into the technical side of things. I recently built my current rig with a GTX 970 in it and for the first time I am using GPU Tweak to monitor my PC. My old PC I never paid any attention to any of it.
So as I am watching the stats as I play I am noticing a couple games (Witcher 3 ultra and NBA2K16 on max) that my GPU usage is running about 99% and temp is around 70-80 degrees.
I am not noticing any in game lag at all but twice I had my screen go grey and forced me to reset the PC. I didn't see the stats when those two times happened but I opened up my case and used a can of air in it in case dust was causing a problem.
So my question is, where those grey screens flukes or am I pushing the PC too hard?
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