I wonder why. It's like people were purchasing these for some sort of abusive purpose.
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Here is their response.
Steam keys have led to abuse in the past, and in order to protect the developers during their worldwide debut we are being conservative with the availability of Steam keys. Please keep in mind that purchasers can always access the DRM-free versions on their download page, and can obtain the Steam keys below the retail price of any individual game.
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You still get absolutely DRM-Free copies which are better than Steam ones if you buy the freaking charity bundle for fifty cents, which is practically nothing for a bundle. Maybe if you weren't such a selfish cheap-ass to afford $5 for a good cause and even get something more out of it you wouldn't run into this sort of problem.
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First, Achievements are not an advantage in any way, or even a slightly relevant feature unless you have some serious social issues. Second, Steam Backups are for re-installing the game quicker with a logged in account, which means that if you lose your Steam account or even internet access, your "backup" means shit, while DRM-Free titles can be burned on CDs and stored in various places. Third, automatic updates are a commodity and not an advantage or an exclusive feature.
People who'd rather have a tied license to their Steam account over a DRM-Free product that can be easily manipulated and stored around are, by definition, stupid. Specially if they're refusing to purchase the product by more than a dime ONLY because it comes absolutely DRM-Free.
There's a crystal clear advantage in DRM-Free titles, and if you claim that Steam is superior because "Steam sort of organizes it for me" then you seriously need to grow up because unrestricted software in categorized files are much more maneuverable and easier to organize than some huge vertical list. Some people have the idea that Steam is easier to use on the go if you travel a lot and that is a false statement, because it only works if you have internet access, which means that if your laptop isn't connected to the internet everytime you turn it on, Steam won't work even on Offline mode. It's a hassle.
Summarizing: No, people who prefer Steam licenses over DRM-free copies are still stupid.
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I think you are the biggest stupid here if you think everyone who has different opinion than you is "by definition stupid". I don't agree with your post at all. End of story, because I will not waste my time with anyone like you who is calling stupid everyone with different opinion - that is the right definition of stupidity. You can post your photo to that wikipedia article you posted earlier.
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It's not an opinion, this is not subjective. Whether you pick Steam or DRM-Free it's still the very same product, I'm talking about Digital Restriction Methods and pointing out exactly what they do and how it is indeed much better without them, which is what you are unable to disprove. It's like discussing whether or not it is better to run wearing shackles or barefoot. Your failed hyperbole isn't helping you in any way, for I'm not showing any signs of ignorance nor do I appear to lack wit like you seem to do. Hence why I have linked the very definition of stupidity in the first place. The objective on that was to clarify its definition and prevent misuse or a direct offense, but I guess your stupidity made you dismiss that entirely.
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"It's not an opinion, this is not subjective." - Nonsense. You posted only your opinion where you say that every possible advantage of Steam over DRM-free game is not advantage at all and every possible advantage of DRM-free game over Steam is very big advantage. That is quite evidently only your weird opinion. But you can have such strange views. But if you say everyone who disagree with this is stupid then you are the king of stupids, no matter what.
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"You posted only your opinion where you say that every possible advantage of Steam over DRM-free game is not advantage at all"
Because they aren't. I've pointed out why having licenses attached solely on Steam when you can have it DRM-Free is not an advantage in any way, shape, or form. I even threw in an analogy for it. You're yet to disprove what I stated, but instead you've opted to throw in some poorly formed hyperboles instead of making a proper argumentation. You truly are stupid.
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"Because they aren't." - But that is evidently false, that is only your wrong opinion. That is absolutely not some sort of everytime true (I don't know how to say that in English). Steam has advantages over DRM-free game if they are these which I meant before or others. DRM-free game also has advantages over Steam, but it is absolutely false to assume that everyone who wants game on Steam rather then DRM-free is stupid, because they won't get anything what DRM-free game does not have. That is nonsense and I don't understand how you can even think it is not.
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"that is only your wrong opinion"
Opinions can't be wrong, you're contradicting your own self.
"it is absolutely false to assume that everyone who wants game on Steam rather then DRM-free is stupid, because they won't get anything what DRM-free game does not have"
What do you even mean by that?
"because they won't get anything what DRM-free game does not have"
I don't even.
You do get more if you don't have DRM attached to your product, you get to make as many backups as you please in thousands of computers and you get to alter files as much as you want. All games (with exception of special editions with extra stuff and steamworks titles) on Steam are just tied down to the account. They have absolutely nothing extra to them that makes them special or superior to DRM-Free copies.
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I think this conversation is out of context already, but I got to reply to you.
I guess what he meant with "wrong opinion" is that your point of view that DRM-free copy is absolutely better than a Steam one, is only your opinion, but isn't a fact as you state.
I must point out to you that calling people stupid is not a valid argument in any kind of a conversation. You are bashing others to accentuate the best of yourself. As an outsider to this conversation you do look like an arrogant fool.
Some people prefer to use Steam for many different reasons and whatever they may be, no one has got the right to tell another they are stupid because of that.
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It's not about using Steam, it's about tying down your products to it. The "stupid" part comes when people become addicted to blindly tying them to Steam when they're clearly disabling themselves. You can and I do use DRM-Free software as a shortcut on Steam so I can use its features.
Now, saying things like "no steam, no buy", which is the case here, is indeed stupid. It's like putting shackles on your feet and throwing the key away. I'm not even interfering on the fact that they're paying less than average for things. They're just down right stupid.
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Don't you see? Everything he says is fact. Everything. Ever. And everything everyone else says is, at best, a theory - unless it agrees with his facts. That's how disagreements work. If you disagree with him, you're incorrect and therefore stupid for not being him in the first place. Obviously.
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I'm all for subjectivity and allowing people to express themselves the way they see fit. They can play/listen to whatever they want, they may dress like they want, they may do whatever they want as long as it does not affect me, and I hope (and have the right) to be treated the same way. Subjectivity is not the case here.
I like discussing with people and sharing ideas on different topics, but what's being shown here is not a demonstration of preference, or an opinion, or a even deep analysis on something. It's sheer, pulsating stupidity and you're only pushing it down the moronic scale even further with your erroneously ironic statement. This is not a discussion over picking blue over red or wearing sandals or flip flops. It's not subjective. DRM-Free will be always better than having DRM, even though Steam tries to bribe their costumers with small features in order to distract them from the fact that they can't use their licenses as they please, even though you can use DRM-Free titles on Steam and use all of its features. I don't hate Steam (in fact I like it, the overlay is great by itself), but I'll take an untied DRM-free copy over a Steam-only license anyday, and the fact that I can use them on Steam makes it even better. I've expressed that thought countless times, I clarified it and I've stated it fully, I didn't just throw poorly formed thoughts into the discussion and point it out as truth, like you try to make it seem like.
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Some people like to have achievements, a community, updates that download automatically, and all of their game in one place that they could download every game they have with one click, and when they buy their game, know where it's going every time. Not everyone wants to go to 15 different sites to get their games, download each of those clients some times, and then organize it in a folder, wonder if there's an update for the game you bought, or alternatively, burn their games to a CD like it's 2005.
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You do have an incredibly valid point here. While Steam makes it somewhat easier to organize/officially patch the things you've bought (_which, in my opinion, is a commodity, games still work without patching_), you still won't get access to them if your internet occasionally goes out (unless you accurately predict it, you have to go online and then go offline for it to work for a week), or if your account gets hijacked/deactivated, or even if Steam ever goes out of business (though not likely, but mentioned just for the sake of argument).
It's a trade-off between a commodity and a chance to have everything not working. Do people like to be organized or not? That's when the infamous subjectivity comes in place.
Categorizing how efficient people are is a touchy subject, so I'll just drop it here for I've stirred up quite the massive shitstorm already.
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I just want to single out one thing you keep saying, which is that you can't download your games if you have no Internet. That's still true of DRM-free games. They don't exactly offer Internet-free downloads. And if you're talking about simply playing the games, I've played plenty of them offline. The only real downside is that it doesn't record how long you've played to your profile - which is something I kind of really like to see.
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On Steam, you can't make use of the tied games if you go out of internet in most cases. Offline mode is awfully put together by the developers: unless you were logged onto Steam right before your internet went down, you won't be able to play them offline, and even then some games will randomly be unavailable in offline mode. That's a serious disadvantage.
But no, I never mentioned anything about downloading the games themselves, it's logical that you need an internet connection to download software. It's just that you don't need an internet connection to use a crushing majority of them, and Steam doesn't like that.
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Perhaps something is wrong on your end, as I have in all honesty never had that problem. My grandmother has no Internet connection and none of her neighbors' wireless networks are in range. I often visit her for awhile with my laptop and play Steam games with no trouble, whatsoever. As long as you've saved your password and been online on that computer (and activated it if you use Steam Guard), there shouldn't be any problems. It could also be a few specific games you've played, though. Some publishers are just kind of awful about DRM, though I'm not sure how that works when it's through Steam. Do you remember which games wouldn't let you play them offline?
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If you want the steam key as well, you get the best of both worlds. Quit the hate talk.
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People are refusing to get the game because it doesn't come with Steam keys, but instead it comes free of DRM. They just want even more licenses for their pile and are complaining about it because they can't get them for a penny. See the situation here?
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I see what you're saying. I agree that it's ridiculous to be hating just because they raised the price of the Steam keys. I personally enjoy using Steam; it keeps all my games in one place. When the minimum was just $1, it really was a great bargain. I also agree that DRM-free ROCKS the SOXS! I think what people are saying is they like Steam, the Cloud stuff, and the idea of having the games in a single place. But all in all, I agree, it's ridiculous to not buy the game just because you have to pay a little more for a Steam key (which includes a DRM-free copy).
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Did you post that comment just so I had a reason to call you an idiot? It doesn't seem to serve any other purpose other than ironically pointing out how idiotic you seem to be.
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It serves no purpose. Just saying that I buy bundles for the games and I don't give a fuck about charity.
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DRM-free copies can be downloaded from torrents and such, they're useless. Or a friend who bought the bundle can just give you a link for download and you don't need to buy separately. Only Steam keys are worth something. Steam is the only thing that actually gives me the incentive to pay for games or no developers would ever see my money. Simple. I like the idea of supporting charity, but if there are no Steam keys, then I think it's a better idea to support charity directly instead. And then download the "illegal" copies.
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Worst? All the Amanita Design games are amazing and are easily worth more than the asking price of five bucks. Especially since Botanicula is 10$ on GoG right now.
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More or less it was an excuse to raise keep it after the Christmas sale. I can understand the $1 to prevent from future abuse aka everybody paying a penny to buy a bunch of bundles. To bump it up to $5? I don't understand their reasoning being it.
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It is a digital release where it costs them absolutely nothing to distribute through Steam. Even then from their servers? They're actually paying for it, but it's not a lot. The games aren't that large. It's not because it's a new game. It's because it's a Steam key and they know people want the keys for their accounts rather than a shortcut sitting on their desktop.
One sale is better than no sales.
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It's not a HIB, it's Humble Store fronting a 50%-off sale on a newly-released game.
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If you pay at least $5, you can optionally get a key to redeem the games on Steam (for Mac and Windows). Visit your download page to redeem your Steam key.
Man ......
The indie bundle thing is getting ridiculous already. 2 days ago we paid PAY WHAT YOU WANT, yesterday we paid $1, today we pay $5 ... What will be the minimum tomorrow? $50? For charity of course.
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You do realize you can pay $0.01 and get the three games right...?
If you're going to complain about anything complain about the additional games that are unlocked for paying above the averages, those go against the pay-what-you-want more so than steam keys being unlocked at $5.
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I actually am pissed off with the pay above average aspect being there from the start of a bundle and even more so with the $5 minimum for steam keys ($1 was okay, willing to pay that even if I don't like the bundle that much).
I liked how 'early adopters' got the pay above average games for free once they were released and was pissed off once that was removed.
So far I haven't seen any positive changes, only negative changes and I can't say I support them... And that is why my contribution to them went down from an average of $5 to $1 tops... With me skipping this bundle (owning Machinarium and Samorost already and not interested into the other games).
Yes, you can get the game downloads for as low as $0.01 but part of what I like is having them in Steam so I can download all games with a single account instead of the bunch of download pages I accumulated so far... Forcing me to pay at least $5 for that is not really customer-friendly. If they keep doing this (or become even worse) then I'll skip their less interesting bundles and only get Indie Royale and other bundles (unless there is a game I really like in a Humble Bundle).
Yes, the retail value of those games is much higher... But I'm paying what I feel comfortable paying for those games, not the retail price, especially since they're not that interesting for me (save a few games that got me several hours worth of fun, which is rare... Dungeons of Dredmor, Towns and I think Depths of Peril will too).
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I've never read such astronomical bullshit in my life, It's almost hilarious.
"Forcing me to pay at least $5 is not really customer-friendly"
Are you even serious?
"But I'm paying what I feel comfortable paying for those games, not the retail price, especially since they're not that interesting for me"
How can you feel comfortable for buying a bundle you're not interested in, and still complain about the minimum pricing for Steam keys? Come the fuck on. At least gather some shame to say that you don't give a shit about their goal and that you just want some more licenses to throw into your pile.
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Because for me steam keys are a selling point. Plus learn to read: I said "Not that interesting" which means "not very interesting" but is definitely more interesting than "not interesting".
Plus keep in mind it started as "Pay what you want" and suddenly it becomes "Pay what you want, but pay at least $5 if you want steam keys and pay more than the average if you want more games" which is not "Pay what you want", that was for me the sore point, becoming more and more restrictive, less customer-friendly. What I always kept saying about piracy is that piracy is thriving because it is offering a better service than buying it legit. TV-series? I can download it in my preferred quality, watch it on my own leisure on whichever device I want to watch it on, choose my own subtitles. If I watch it on TV, I have less options, some channels have forced subtitles that you can't disable and have shoddy translation (English spoken, Dutch subtitled) and I have to pay more for it... Yeah, guess which option I prefer? I'm willing to pay a fair price for a quality service, not for a shoddy limited service.
FYI I actually paid $0.01 for one of the bundles because I already owned some of the games and was slightly interested into one of the remaining games, wanted to shell out $0.50 for it... and found that I didn't get Steam keys and had to do a CAPTCHA because I was paying less than $1. Ticked me off and I decided to lower it to $0.01...
Oh and I never denied I don't give a shit about their goal. I like the charity aspect and that was what kept me buying some of the less interesting bundles as well (always giving all money to charity). But it doesn't attract people by becoming shittier and shittier while demanding even more.
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So the security measure they added to keep themselves from loosing thousands of actual dollars to harvester bots caused them to lose 17c in a single case where they might otherwise have received 33c? Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of people paid on average over $5-6 each? Sounds like everything is working as it should.
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If you've come to the Humble Bundle website expecting high-notch articles and products of the finest quality, then I have some saddening news for you.
The whole "pay what you want" is supposed to incentive people to donate more to the non-profit organizations they're partnered with, as long with maintaining the website up. It's not a little online games store with a cute background slogan.
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I never expected high quality games and that is reflected in what I'm willing to pay for...
Whenever I got a Humble Bundle I made sure all money went to the NPO's. I like that aspect but for me it is about the games, not about giving to charity and I'm not ashamed to admit that.
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Humble Bundle: Bringing out the best and the worst out of people since 2010.
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Because Machinarium was included in previous bundles, so that makes this bundle 1/3 less worthy. Samorost 2 can be free-to-play version on dev's site and is a really short game, Windowsill is ~10 screen length point and click adventure made in Flash, so... The only reason to buy this bundle is Botanicula itself, unless you are a collector of Steam games... So. Not sure if a troll or just young or blind.
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Hello, I don't know if you noticed, but we're not talking about whether it's worth it. For that matter, doesn't really matter if you can get it elsewhere for free or not when we're talking about quality. That being said, I don't see how thinking that these games are good makes someone young or blind. You and Cappa are just being rude for the sake of being rude
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That BUNDLE, as in that BUNDLE of games. The quality of that BUNDLE, the quality of that BUNDLE of games. etc etc
I mean, how did you not realize that was what I was talking about when you first replied to me?
"how does liking these games make someone young or blind? making fun of someone's taste on the internet, watch out we got a badass over here" Yes, I was obviously talking about the worth of the bundle.
But I regress, I'll humour you. You're making the assumption that everyone buying the bundle has Machinarium, and indeed to those who have gotten the two games you stated that were in bundles it probably is not worth the $5 price (if you're poor like me, at any rate) unless you want Botanicula (in which case it is very much worth it). People don't realize that this is a debut bundle (not aiming this at you specifically), take a look at Frozen Synapse bundle, only two games and one BTA bonus (which is a very short game and one that hasn't gotten great reviews). Yes, the two games in the bundle are good, but for fans of point-and-click so is Machinarium and Samorost 2 (and if those are any sign, so will Botanicula, but that is purely speculation). (Also I realize Frozen Synapse cost $25 on steam, but that's for buying two copies, so roughly it equates to $12.5 which isn't too far off what Botanicula will be ($9.99)).
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Let's get it straight: Look at HIB4, now at this, now HIB4 and now - back to this. Obvious is obvious. So... I bought some "Debut" bundles (Blackwell Trilogy, Really Big Sky, Hack, Slash, Loot, etc.) no $5 limit. That's my point. It's not about being poor.
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What bundle(s) was that (the one listed in the comments, I mean). Also if you are comparing HIB# to HIB debuts you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Debut bundles have always been targeted to very specific audiences (usually the games are of the same genre and the same developer for the most part). They'll be worth it for some and not worth it (since you are gung ho about this being about the worth) for others, that doesn't make the people who do think it's worth it blind or young, etc.
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I do not care, man. HI BUNDLE #4 is better than H Botanicula BUNDLE, ok? That's the only point of this madness. Bundle > Bundle. It's just like saying that Bieber is a great singer, but I shouldn't compare him to Pavarotti or Mercury, because the league differs, lol. It's like having all 2-3 albums of a band and buy their Greatest Hits. It would make sense, that what you're trying to say, if we were talking about Skyrim VS. Grimrock, because that would be a matter of taste.
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You're the one that derailed this into what it is. My original fucking post was about taste. I simply asked: "how does liking these games make someone young or blind?" You entirely missed my point from the get go and continued to do so with every post. Yes, taste are subjective, his [bonpar] taste are subjective. He thinks this is one of the best bundles. That doesn't mean it's the best bundle to every single person, or that it's the best bundle to the majority of people. FINE, I never said otherwise. I'm saying it doesn't make him blind or young or <insert derogatory term here>, if he likes it, he likes it. To each, their own. Good day, sir.
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Forum front page, next to the "Create Thread" option there's a "Join Group Chat" button.
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There is a reason why PnC games don't sell. Same reason a new game is included with a bunch of old ones with a 50% off. Some quality.
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half of the games have been in a previous bundle anyways
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they aren't that great, tho...
seriously - so far this is the worst indie bundle I've seen until now, ridiculous pricing and just "meh" content
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I wonder if they're planning on keeping the steam-key raise in price or not. It's possible it might have just been for this bundle. If not, then... oh well. It's still not a bad deal. Though the only one I'm interested in is the game it's named after. I have all the rest of the games and the film doesn't interest me that much. It seems weird they'd have a film in it at all to be completely honest.
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It all started about a month ago...
I'm sure there are some more bundles with movies and comic books. My concern is that sooner or later one of them is going to be completely movies, forgetting the fact that these bundles were meant for gamers.
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Didn't Bemine and Indiegala also have music though? They seemed much less like game bundles and more general indie bundles. Humble Indie Bundle hasn't had more then games and their soundtracks (which the difference to the other bundles with music is that the music is tied to the games, not just semi-random CDs) for how many installments now? 10 or so? Then to suddenly throw a movie of all things in there is somewhat odd.
Of course, I don't mind the idea of indie deals like this for movies or music. I don't even really mind it being in this. It just seems odd and sudden to me.
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The three had music - if only for the games' soundtracks. Groupees, seller of Bemine, is normally a promoter of indie bands so it seemed logical to try and merge the two.
Indie Gala had a shitload of music for their #2 bundle (ba-dum tss) but they offered only three albums for their third. Movies and comic books are totally new however and I'd say it started with Indie Gala #3.
I'm all fired up for promoting indie makers, but, you know, it's like getting brown M'n'Ms. You just want the candy and they keep throwing the stuff you don't like to make the price go up. And you end up buying it anyway.
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I can understand that. Though it seems odd that it would only be for Steam keys instead of having it as, say, $1 for the bundle at least and $5 with the key. It just seemed it was possible that they were and, if so, it'd be a bit disappointing. Not so much because I'm cheap (though it's true that I am), but because it kinda goes against the bundles roots. I could understand the $1 for Steam key part when people were abusing it, and I can understand them doing it for this too. My hope is/was that they don't keep it raised, which I suspect they won't.
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They aren't raising the steam-key price for HB, they're only doing so for bundles that have games on Debut. Botanicula is a newly released game that isn't even purchasable on Steam (but you can DL and play it on Steam using the steam-key from the bundle), if the key price was set to 1$ then the devs would barely get anything for their new game :(
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Eh... I disagree with you there. The problem with that logic is that all of the games minus the Over-The-Average are by the same company. So a lot of the money will likely be going to them (depending on where people choose to send it of course). Now, having it at $5 means that you're going to get 5x as much, but you're also going to lose a lot of sales at the same time. I'm not going to pick the bundle up because $5 is a decent amount of money for me right now and I have all of the games besides the one giving the bundle it's title. If it were one dollar minimum, I'd have likely thrown in a couple bucks even though I likely wouldn't play the game anyways.
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I just don't get why they can give drm free copies for almost free "min possible price" and ask for 5$ for steam keys... I hope people will show some reaction by not buying this bundle so they won't continue with raising the price whatever they want..
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Yes, because the $15,000,000,00 (fifteen million dollars) they've gathered in total for charity were purely based off your thousands of $0,01 purchases.
If you didn't already purchase the Bundle for $5 as the very minimum (you can still pay what you want, or, $0,01, you just don't get Steam keys for fulfilling your pseudo-OCD) then you're irrelevant to their target and they'll keep going without you.
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You can say the same thing from my perspective. Anyway I'm sure they'll have less number of sales this time.
Edit: btw I saw some of your posts in the thread you're definitely trying to pick a fight with people who want steam keys and not happy with the raising price. Maybe you might wanna talk to SG staff and change the site name to "pseudo-OCDgifts.com" since you called everyone who wants steam games over drm-free "stupid" a few posts above.
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DRM-Free games nowadays are a rarity. Whining because your $0,01 purchase doesn't come with DRM is just ridiculous. Your witty response doesn't fit.
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I would understand if this was a normal humble bundle set at 5$ for steam-keys but this is a DEBUT bundle. Botanicula is a newly released game and the devs are willing to give you steam-keys at 50% off with 2 bonus games too (and up to 99% off if you don't care about steam-keys). Gotta respect the devs for that.
Whining and calling a public boycott just because you disapprove of giving the money to the devs for their newly released game is just being a self-entitled brat.
PS. They are only setting this 5$ steam-key price BECAUSE it has a game on its debut, they will most-likely go back to 1$ minimum for their regular bundles. Have you seen any AAA games like COD, Final Fantasy, or Diablo go for 50% off on their release date? No? Then compared to that, what Amanita Design and HumbleBundle are doing is amazing!
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I agree.
I really don't understand why people are getting so upset about having a minimum for Steam keys. I find Steam to be a convenience, but not a necessity, especially with single-player games. Why would anyone prefer DRM over DRM-free? You can't sell your Steam games when you've grown tired of them. If you like having all your games in one spot, you can easily add a DRM-free non-Steam game to the Steam list, and it'll even work with the Steam overlay.
Since this is a brand-new game, it doesn't help the developers any if key shops stockpile the keys for next to nothing and then sell them later at inflated prices with no cut going to the developers or others involved with the game. The $5 minimum is there in part to prevent this.
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i bought it for more than $5 and can confirm botanicula shows up in my steam library.
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So a game is bad just because it's a point & click adventure?
Also you can still pay 1 cent and get 3 games. A steam key makes you enjoy a game more? This doesn't make sense. If you want games just to increase the games counter on steamprofile...that's sad.
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If they mixed the genders of the games a bit more i will galdly pay more than the average price, but they cant convince everyone with just a genre who isnt a everyone's favorite. I really appreciate amanita studio works but i think that just 3 games aren't enough to convince me that this is a good bundle
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Funny. I thought it the other way around: This is probably the best "themed" bundle I've seen, yet. Especially with the addition of Kooky.
However if you appreciate Amanita Design, then 5$ for Botanicula and its soundtrack alone, makes it a good "bundle".
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Recycling games that have already been in bundles before ... this is the first bundle that I will not buy
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The reason those other games are in there is because they're from the same developer as Botanicula. Botanicula is actually a very refreshing game, and is worth a try. It's much different (in a good way) than anything else I've played.
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Arrrr, that be dishonest me lad!
(Take the hint XD).
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It's here http://www.humblebundle.com/
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"Pay $5 or more and you’ll get a Steam key in addition to DRM-free direct downloads."
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