It's good to counter devs like Digital Homicide, and it's not like users lose a lot, just a few cents, even if its a $1 it's still nothing.
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+1 bout time Valve pulled a finger out with these issues.
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O.O
Holy shit. Who on earth pays that amount for a fucking virtual trading card and why???
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are you sure you want that answer...? (I actually saw who bought it)
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There used to be lots of trading that could sell for quite a few dollars, not as many any more, but I think there are still some...
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I guess it does not matter when you got the game (and consequently the items) for free. But if you actually spent money on those games, it kinda sucks. I think a much better approach for valve would be that in such cases the devs like Digital Homicide simply don't get any share of the sales fees any more. Then the cards and items could stay on the market even long after the devs were banned. They might have to change their subscriber agreement, but it's their service so the intellectual property on the community market items should be theirs as well.
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technically they couldn't do that.. as DH created those items, and I suppose a case could be made that it would be theft if they continued to sell them without giving DH their 10%..
This is kind of a double edged sword in all honesty, as the end user has nothing to do with whatever the publishers may have done. so removing the items kind of cheats the end user..
I guess I agree in some cases, like ones where Valve wants to fully end their relationship for one reason or another.
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What? Developers get only 10% of the sale's price?
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I think when steam used to display the amounts, steam got 10%, and developers got 10%, which is why the lowest you can sell cards for is 3 cent.. 1 cent for steam, 1 cent for developers, 1 cent for the seller..
Since the developers design the cards, emoticons and backgrounds, steam doesn't have the legal right to stop the developers from profiting off their work.. So I guess they decided to just stop letting those items be sold period..
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I think when steam used to display the amounts
That is what it is all about: displaying the numbers. The lowest price you can set is 0.03 in most currencies (and you get 0.01 of it), it is not bound to USD. When I sell something for 0.03 NOK, that is 0.004 USD. And as most developers are not residing in Norway, at the end of the day Valve will have to do the currency-conversion and calculate with such numbers.
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They may not be able to do it with already existing items. But in future, they might adjust their terms of service, that if a dev wants cards for their game they can hand in a design, but the digital items are Valve's property. Considering that those cards are only usable on the Steam platform, it would make sense. It's not ideal, as it gives Valve a lot of leverage, but then again, they already have a lot of leverage and it'd be still better for users. After all it's not the users fault.
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And if that doesn't work maybe they'll sue the legal system.
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Maybe this heralds the beginning of an era when Valve will finally do something about the whole "let's flood Greenlight with asset flips and reap hueg profitz through cards" situation.
(Who am I kidding.)
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Thanks, I'm very interested in lists like those you linked.
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I highly doubt it. The games in question usually have done something against Steams rules (like paying for reviews, fake reviews etc). They probably won't remove games that are simply low effort trash (except maybe if they stole assets from someone), since Valve also profits from those.
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"Great", I was just about selling my Platformica's cards on the market. 😐
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If anyone wants to trade this cards or sell them to me, i may have have a few i dont need and some I want :)
Feel free to add me ^^
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Can you still make badges? If so, hold on to the cards, they are bound to be worth more than ever eventually.
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you can make booster packs for them still it looks like, so i'd imagine badges would still be possible too.
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That's actually a very good idea. In year or so there are probably a few collectors that are willing to pay quite a bit for them...
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tradeable items can still be worth something. just have to find the right person crazy enough to want them.
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yep but the dev doesn't profit so it doesn't matter.
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yeah, but in this case, people probably wouldn't want them to (at least valve didn't <cue for.. laughter>)
the item can still be worth something so it's not completely useless to the user that cares for whatever trading value it carries. just more effort for it.
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I almost did a happy dance when I saw that Digital Homicide's shit is no longer marketable. Hahaha!
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Don't know what's really going on but have a bump for sure.
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No perfect answer to the situation.While I see why they did it at least they are doing something.I hope next is revamping EA and Greenlight instead of wasting resources on UI.I can dream I guess :)
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I personally like the greenlight idea but its just abused by shady "developers" ^^
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I like it and it is a great platform but as you pointed out it is abused by shady people because of little moderation by Valve and that is how they ended up with the mess that was Digital Homicide.If that is not enough to show that the system is flawed then they will never learn.
It is a good thing but there also comes a time when sometimes even good things have to come to an end and if they can not or will not do more to moderate the games getting on Greenlight then maybe it is time to shut it down.Though I doubt it will happen because monies is involved for Valve.
EA is in serious need of some moderation and more accountability as it slowly just becoming a place to make a quick buck and a shame for most games that make it.
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many great games coming from greenlight!
dont forget European Truck SImulator dude ^^
to my mind also
EARLY ACCESS
needs to get more moderated by steam, that "project" is the secons most reason y games get removed by steam
just cuz the developers abandon the game, or cant finance it and just made some bucks... like kickstarter programm in steam, this is no way to keep qualitiy for the users!
If I buy !!! a early acces which gets removed, I need to get a refund!! cuz its not finished!
also if I activate the game with an thirdseller key, I need to get at least from the thirdseller something.
get those developers onto the table and their reponsibility to us users!
BTW Y doesnt steam let us know anyways when it removes a game ^^???
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I think the hard part is how to moderate it.It is a risk no matter what the game may never be finished.I have no issue with that part it just like buying stock there is a degree of risk but its and investment in hopes of a return just like EA.
That being said they still can not just take your money and run when investing in stocks but with EA they can take the money and just pretty much run with it.There is no accountability which there has to be some sort in place.There needs to have a refund option if very little is ever done with the game or it strays far from what was promised when you first bought it.Like if the game promises to be a full-on survival game and midway through they change it to FPS shooter a refund should be given.You bought it on the idea of a survival game not a FPS shooter.
I am not sure why they do not announce removed guess or rarely do it seems the only time you really know is if Valve has an issue with a developer or they announce the remove themselves.
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totlly agree with that ^^
most seen scheme is like,
"vote the game get a key" :P
- sooo many dudes out there just want the +1
- the developers own mulitple asteam accs xD awesome!
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yeah or just release shovelware with trading cards and giveaway 50,000 copies of it on Gleam, SG, Indiegala.. you name it.
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Steam/Valve News
About 2 days ago community items (trading cards, emoticons, backgrounds) for games removed from Steam by Valve, for things such as fake reviews, were made unmarketable.
All listed items on the market were cancelled and returned to the inventories to their owners, the market pages for the items still exist but they are now useless.
Are the items still remain tradable?
YES
Can we make badges?
YES
Can you make gems out of the items?
YES
Do cards still rop from removed games?
YES
Some reddit info
Some Giveaway
Valve is very active!
Since beginning of this year they removed 40 games until today!
The reason lies within WHY the games are removed..
*Do we need notifications about removal of a game
YES, but unfortunatly they give no info...
List #1 since 2013
chronology etc infos
List #2 only 2017
community hubs for listed games
If a license just ends like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or Hotwheels,
it doesnt affect the Items on the market,
but if the developer of the games went against the Valve AGB´s and the games gets removed cuz of that,
all the items out of these games, are not worth a penny and are only tradable..
cuz of that reason like in here;
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