Sould i upgrade from 6GB to 12GB?
not an expert on ram, but i think if you want to get the performance benefits from Dual Channel you need 2 sticks with at least the same amount of RAM, ideally would be also the same frequency and same manufacturer.
oh yeah appart from that, depends of the game, some games will use the extra RAM some wont, Dark Souls 1 didnt change RAM consumption when i went from 8 to 16, but GTA V did, went from 5-6(8GB) to 12 at 16GB.
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Dual Channel will gain 1-3FPS boost max, not worth it. I switched from Dual Channel (2x4) to 3 slots used (2x4 and 1x8), also I'm pretty sure that I have read somewhere an article stating that Dual Channel doesn't gain much too.
Back to octavio182 - yes, more RAM will improve the performance, but only if the game requires that amount. The biggest let down of your system is the lack of a "dedicated" GPU and since it's a laptop nothing can't really be done with my knowledge.
Or you can go the "redneck" way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_8EYQ-2RA though no idea how it works and it costs quite a bit.
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why call it a 'redneck' method? it's not even considered a fully 'ghetto' type of setup! that's the core of modding, the whole point of it. and it's pretty darn cool, if anything.
in all honesty, laptops will pretty much never be on par with desktop rigs, when it comes to pure,raw performance,let alone heat dissipation.or at least not in x amount of years. don't see anything wrong with making something decent,if not great, even better.
is it a viable option?for the most part,prob not. . .in any instance,it's an advanced solution, and it certainly ain't redneckey.
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Well the new oneplus 3 mobile phone has the same amount of ram as your current pc xD
.. so yeah maybe you should upgrade xD
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Video Graphics | Intel HD graphics 4000
This is a huge bottleneck, even more than the amount of ram. Your ram is probably dual channel so you absolutely should get a pair of identical sticks, at least in size, latency and frequency.
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33% of RAM is wasted on alignments
so... yes, the more the better
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your problem is with video card, more RAM will not help
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The HD 4000 is an on die integrated gpu and is not a great gpu comparitively. For gaming, from most important to least important its gpu then cpu and then ram followed by storage. In my opinion adding additional ram to that computer without first upgrading the gpu will affect performance minimally.
Edit: Missed the part where you said its a laptop. Since you cant upgrade the gpu, I wouldn't recommend adding additional ram.
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For Gaming?? Nah! better save your money and buy a decent custom Desktop PC instead.
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Upgrading your ram won't make previously unplayable games playable. :p
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More RAM will certainly be a quality of life improvement in your everyday use of your laptop but with games don't expect much from it. Your graphics card won't support those games most probably, but for the ones that it will support there might be a sliiiight improvement in fps, but barely noticable and if even.
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It depends on the game/software. More RAM will make more of a difference to some than others, for other games the bottleneck will be elsewhere. But for the record I was running Skyrim, etc great on the highest graphics settings with 4 GB of RAM (plus a quad core CPU and a dedicated graphics card with DDR5 memory) - I think your biggest problem is your graphics hardware...
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Skyrim is capped at 4GB that's why :p Oh and that's only if you mod it, unmodded it's capped at 2GB I believe.
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I'm a fairly big Skyrim fan - I got it at release and have played it extensively on various systems since then. From personal experience I think I'd dispute the 'unmodded it's capped at 2GB' thing. On Windows XP RAM over 2 GB didn't make a lot of difference (although given the 32-bit memory limitations that probably isn't surprising) but on 64-bit operating systems there was a significant performance difference between 2 GB and 4 GB RAM with no other hardware changes and no mods.
But in any event I certainly I think it was a valid reply given that OP specifically mentioned Skyrim when asking if his RAM would make a difference.
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Hey, I'm a fan as well, even though I haven't played any other elder scroll games. It was released with a 2GB cap but they later released a patch which raised it to 4GB although you could only use 3.1GB apparently from what I've read. I looked into this issue when I had troubles with Fallout: New Vegas (same engine), I'm not just making up stuff :p You can easily google it, if you're interested. I just wanted to inform you :p
OP stated he already has 6GB RAM while Skyrim can only use 4GB in the best case scenario (you can look this up). I mean no disrespect to you just trying to give more correct information.
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OP asked if he should upgrade his RAM from 6 GB to 12 GB to improve performance in games like Skyrim. Which is when I said that as I was able to run Skyrim at max settings on a 4 GB machine it was more likely his graphics card hardware that was issue.
Skyrim being capped at 4 GB (or even 2 GB) doesn't make any difference to what I said or the point that I was trying to make - that I was able to run it at max at 4 GB so more RAM was unlikely to help OP if he already had 6 GB. I'm unsure how this turned into a thing with you jumping in and posting ':p' at me a lot.
When I decided to dispute your claim that unmodded Skyrim is capped at 2 GB I didn't understand that by 'unmodded' you meant 'a copy of Skyrim that somebody has had on their computer since 2011 with auto-updates turned off'. If you feel it important to inform people that Skyrim was released with a 2 GB memory cap then I won't disagree, although as that was changed by an official patch years ago I'm just unsure of the relevance.
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Whoa, I don't know why you're so hostile, I was just trying to point out Skyrim can only use 4GB of RAM. Let's just drop it then.
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Actually, New Vegas and Skyrim use different engines; they only share the scripting part of the engines, nothing more.
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Huh, you're right, they just seemed so similiar to me I guess :D
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Creation was more or less a rebuilt GameBryo, but in a different language and with different implementation (for example, multi-core and 64-bit support).
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Well, the scripting engine, the one that is responsible for how the game is played, was copy-pasted since Morrowind; the exact same bugs have been found and fixed since TESIII to TESV (including Fallout 3 and to a small degree in New Vegas—but there it seems Obsidian tried to fix a few things).
Probably the only reason Fallout 4 is exempt is because they made a new scripting engine there as well (although as I hear it has all sorts of other bugs, so… yeah).
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Maybe Bethesda just likes bugs in their games :D
It's easy for me to judge, but it's probably understandable there are bugs in such large open worlds.
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Not if the exact same engine-level bugs pop up over and over again. That is either laziness, cheapness, or pure coding incompetence. (Although I think in their case, it is all three put together.)
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I don't know enough about coding to judge really. But all industries are driven by money, making everything as cheap and as fast as possible.
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Let's just say that if a random guy on the internet can fix the problem for you and sometimes even post the solution, it takes a lot of Idon'tgiveashit to not copy-paste it back in an 8-year time span.
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You're probably right, I don't think they care unless a lot of people complain about it.
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6GB RAM is enough in my opinion. I got a gaming laptop as well with 8GB but i never reach the maximum. For better quality gaming you need to upgrade your graphic card.
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Nope, vende tu lap arma una de escritorio, usada en ML lo más bajo está en $5500(puedes intentar darla en 6 o 6500) puedes armar algo más o menos, si tienes tele LED o LCD con VGA o HDMI te despreocupas de un monitor
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Your computer could use more ram, but it probably won't improve your gaming experience much, if at all. You need a graphics card for that.
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8GB Ram is enough but if can buy ram with faster MHz it helps. There was a article that said, 8GB 3000MHz DDR4 ram faster than 8GB 2400MHz DDR4 ram by 3 to 5 FPS. But if you buy even an entry level GPU it will improve your performance substantially.
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Discard 2GB of Ram and bought a new 4Gb stick. But your problem is the GPU...
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It sure does helps A LOT if a game have big memory leaks - GTAV, Just Cause 3 etc.
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No need to upgrade RAM, your laptop has a low-end integrated GPU, it's the main reason why your games run bad.
Besides, the motherboard might not even support more than 8GB anyway.
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u should upgrade both RAM and your GPU for increase in performance
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Your problem is... that this is laptop.
Even i5 i7, on laptop is a lot worse than for PC.
You could use more ram, but that won't change a thing.
You could possibly try to put SSD instead of HDD You have now, that would give u some improvement.
But being in Your position? :) Change for desktop computer.
Because one day You will boil that laptop one way or another.
And You will be left with shell that is worth less than a good Razor mouse.
Been there, done that. And if anyone want some RETRO motherboards like 286 or 486 or Socket 1 :) for retro build...
Well visit my ebay shop aaproltd.
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well if you get a good 6th gen i7 & a discrete gpu & sdd then a laptops fine really, but your then talking about a $999+ starter price too..
agree though SDD > RAM if anything at all has to be put into the existing laptop they own, and if 2-4 years really is how long before they can buy a new machine then i suppose both.
EDIT> though my vote really is NO, not worth spending anything additional on what so ever. start buying custom in pieces if necessary
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Technically, no. Getting more ram won't improve your performance in the ways you want. You are going to need to get either a better laptop or build a desktop with a better Processor and GPU. However, these days you really should be using at least 4GB of ram, so it really wouldn't hurt to buy a couple 2GB or 3GB sticks.
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It depends, more RAM can fix stuttering if it's caused my the use of virtual memory. On Skyrim more RAM can allow you running more mods, for example. But in your case, the problem is the GPU.
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I'm going to say it slightly different. more ram doesn't improve performance, but less ram makes performance worse.
Basically, everything that's running on your computer needs ram, in the same way that everything stored on your computer needs space on your hard disc. X ram for the system. X ram for your web browser, X ram for a bunch of things you don't even realize are running but that you use on a daily basis. and X ram for each program you have open.
Now, let's say you have 6 GB ram, and your system (and related stuff) uses 1 ram. You now have 5 GB ram left. If you have a game that needs 2 GB, you have plenty of space. Now you want to simultaneously play another game that requires 2GB ram. Still good (1+2+2 = 5)
But, if you now want to play another game that requires 2 GB ram, you need to close one of the other two games, or there isn't enough ram to go around (1+2+2+2 = 7).
But something that comes into play is that games can be flexible. a game might not need 2 GB ram, it might function ok with only 1 GB ram, but it needs 2 GB for optimal performance (see e.g. minimum specs vs preferred specs). The game might be slower or the graphics not as crisp. So in the example above, you may be able to play all three games at once, but it'll be laggy.
So, while there's a need to have enough ram, there's no need to have any more. What constitutes "enough" depends on a lot of factors, though, in this case, mainly what games you're playing.
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It must take a lot of skill to play three games at once. ;)
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True, but since some people listen to youtube music via chrome and / or use voip (skype for example) while playing games, what he sais is correct.
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In your case the videocard is the bottleneck and adding more RAM won't help much to improve things when playing newer games.
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I have 4 years with my laptop and can't buy a new one at the moment (maybe in 2-4 years), it works fine and i can play games in low-medium, but i can't play new AAA games, so, the other day i saw in a local store an 8GB ram card at $40 (600 Mex$) my laptop has 6GB of ram (4GB+2GB), so i tought that maybe if i upgrade the 2GB to an 8GB ram, i could play new games in low-medium and improve the old games (like skyrim).
So... will it help in something?
Product Name | m4-1050la
Microprocessor | 2.50GHz 3rd generation Intel Core i5-3210M Processor with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.10GHz
Memory | 6GB DDR3 SDRAM (2 DIMM)
Memory Slots | 2 user accessible
Video Graphics | Intel HD graphics 4000 with up to 1664MB total graphics memory
Hard Drive | 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Thanks for your help and obligatory GA
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