Humble Bundle Partners With Epic Games

Some interesting news out of GDC 2019. Epic is now partnered with HB you can read about it in a brief article here

I'm guessing we will be seeing games for the Epic Store in HB bundles as well as the monthly soon.

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Only thing I want to learn right now...

https://twitter.com/enesfarukmeniz/status/1108709353840934914

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Oh thats a really good thing to bring up. They already screw it up when they bring out other keys but if they do a mix of steam and epic that would be terrible

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While I do have a decent amount of launchers on my PC I definitely want things for Steam in the HB monthly. We saw The Division for Uplay in a monthly bundle so it's pretty likely we'll be seeing something for the EBS.

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as soon as the main best games bundled in the monthly are epic games store games i will cancel my subscriptions.

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+1

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I just had an idea: If Epic is so desperate for exclusives, I wonder if we could get them to port/revive some older titles/series that publishers seem to have abandoned. I love to see Monster Rancher and Bloody Roar be a thing again.

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Oh wow.. I haven't heard those titles in a long, long time. I'd love to see that. I enjoyed both of those series, especially Bloody Roar.

I want Tactics Ogre!!! :)

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If they could get No One Lives Forever, I might change my stance in not buying anything from Epic

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They're already doing that. Going to be releasing Heavy Rain soon. It was in their announcement about GDC 2019 or whatever.

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it just exclusive deal, without epic, quantic dream would still release their games on pc

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DO NOT SUPPORT EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER

DO NOT SUPPORT EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER

DO NOT SUPPORT EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER

DO NOT SUPPORT EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER

DO NOT SUPPORT EPIC GAMES LAUNCHER

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Bump

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You do know that even Phoenix Point devs said they got enough money from Epic to go there that if they were to refund every single person and give back all of the kickstarter money they would still have some left.

So Epic gives devs money upfront for sure, and a lot of it.

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thanks for bumping. I really lost the topic and couldn't find it again, lol.

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Isn't Boogie one of those youtubers who live out of clickbaits, teenager's issues and drama? I've watched some of his "livesteramfails" and the dude is completely messed up, is toxid as fuck, lies a lot and has 0% credibility.

Neither is a journalist or a "game journalist". Has no sources, las time uploaded a video about Halo were nothing, NOTHING, not a SINGLE piece of info was CORRECT.

This is a shitpost and/or you are promoting him based on the new 'hateful trend'

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You definitely win for funniest comment of the day. It made me laugh so hard my drink came out my nose lol. You obviously don't like him and that's all fine and good but I'm leaning towards this info is a LOT more truth than not.

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I can be quite funny, I don't know why dislike or like some lame YouTuber is going to make a tweet about an anonymous source be quality information. Sure, defend your idols and laugh at me

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My idol? lol ok. Can't really help but laugh when you make statements like this.

Just to catch you up to speed.. there's cases where devs have mentioned publicly they got paid for being exclusive, as mentioned by several SG members on this thread. Epic also pays the devs for the "free" games that come out every 2 weeks.

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Devs can be a credible source. A tweet from a shitty streamer talking about "anonymous messages" it's definitely not.

While I can be thankful for reading credible information about epic practices, reading boogie and credibility it's, for me person and I'm sorry, a waste of time.

I do dislike the guy for his practices, he and all of those YouTubers who actively use the "depression" card.

I apologize if my first messages was hostile like I think Sooth may said.

Boogie definitely it's not a good source and I won't spread people towards his ads and clickbait content.

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Where I'm at it was about 2:30 morning on Sunday, so I wasn't in serious mode. When I put the tweet in the thread it wasn't supposed to be taken all that serious. When I was reading your comment I was like woah, this dude really doesn't like boogie and then I got to the last line of what you stated and I lol'd cause that's not at all why I posted it or what I was trying to do. As I mentioned there's already info that was publicly stated about the situation weeks ago. This thread used to be "The Epic Games Store News And Updates" and had tons of links and info from credible sources which included the subject were talking about. I ended up removing it all because some viewed the thread as a advertisement for the Epic Game Store, including one of my fellow staff members so I felt it would be best. One of my main goals was to update this thread constantly so hopefully there would be less Epic Games threads posted.

I apologize if my first messages was hostile like I think Sooth may said.

I don't see him mentioning anything about your comments being hostile, unless he edited it.

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Epic also pays the devs for the "free" games that come out every 2 weeks.

Absolutely unrelated to the original topic of paying for exclusivity and Boogie, but are we surprised by this at all?
Many news site liked to twist around the message into the Epic hating and not caring about players, but Epic said that they are trying to win by game selection and not by services. Because Steam (even with many services struggling and being subpar) has such a headstart that it is logical that Epic tries to get some advantage on another field.
They use the money to give out games (in their name - that's why they pay the devs to encourage it,) to get timed exclusives and to get deals like uPlay + Epic only Ubi games by offering a better share for the devs-publishers. And in the meanwhile they try to make their system more viable with additional services.

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Given that actual developers purportedly already openly clarified the guaranteed minimum sales several weeks back, it is admittedly a bit bizarre for you to instead select a non-credible source (and one which is offering a less detailed presentation) for the basis of the topic.

That of course is something you may have simply overlooked (though I did find it again easily enough with a quick search on the topic, so any attempt to find a more credible source shouldn't have had much difficulty), but it is somewhat problematic if you're presenting a topic as fact rather than rumor [credible or not], based solely off a non-credible source [not that I know anything about any streamer, but you do seem to have offered confirmation to Silverio's claim of the youtuber not being a reliable source].

Even that could have been dismissed as a poor choice of phrasing. However, your strawman argument flavored response to the matter isn't exactly appropriate, regardless of the tone of the comment you're responding to, and weakens your own credibility.

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lol.. I am well aware of the comments on the thread as well as the information reported a couple weeks back.. the tweet Boogie made was more or less a light hearted take on info that was already made public.. It was around 2:30 am Sunday morning when I posted it and not meant to be taken all that serious.

I'm looking for a good pic for this atm..

I decided on video instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o

Now I'll just revert the thread back to the info about the HB and Epic partnership.

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My point was, regardless of how it was presented, Silverio had a reasonable perspective, and you presented a needlessly roundabout and rude response on something you could have clarified much more simply and productively; Likewise, it's still a bit unclear as to why you did, in fact, address the topic with that particular approach.

That said, given what a quick [and thereby perhaps lacking] google search returns on Boogie (with some of his actions being clearly inappropriate, while other actions are overemphasized by detractors but are then validated by Boogie's poor response to the detractors), Silverio's concerns seem justified, while the manner of your own response only further loses validity.

If you're not willing to address the moral or ethical considerations related to your source, and your source is both less detailed and less credible than a previous source, and you respond with hostility and an unwillingness to change to the superior source.. Well, there's just really no way to interpret that as anything other than support for whatever negative viewpoints your source is associated with.

I can think of several methods of brushing off the matter and defusing any tension, that could have been taken instead.

That said, even without any considerations of ideological involvement, if you reference a source of any sort, you have to be willing to address any considerations involved with that source. Responding the way you did just isn't suitable regardless of the underlying factors, even before we account for the expectations of conduct that an individual in a position of authority should be keeping in mind.

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Honestly, you've dove way too deep into something that wasn't supposed to be all that serious.

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Isn't that what Sooth always does? :)

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He's more of a soothsayer than a soothdoer

also, I don't know what planet he lives on but I bet they don't all go around saying "MYAH!"

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Not really going to give money for a launcher, which can fail and be removed forever... thats it :)
PS: Hassat, yes 100% of my games are freebies, your right :) And seems like from your screenshots your really mad to Steam, but still using it, its a really strange...
There is a risk for every launcher and every launcher can fail, but there is a more for the new one in my opinion...
And for sure you can spend your money to every launcher you want, no one can stop you... i prefer to be Steam for most of the games, plus for the Uplay games its just enough to buy on Steam... and Origin if i want to play some of their games..

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Steam?

yep, 2700 freebies. lol.

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Also Origin, Bethesda, Uplay... every one really. Guess he's GOG exclusive and their Steam is 100% freebies?

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The First Cult of Valve believes that Valve is eternal and can never die. (#HouseGreyjoy)
The Second Cult of Valve has vowed their fealty to Valve and believes Steam is the only worthy exception to such considerations.
The Third Cult of Valve believes that Steam will survive so long as Half-Life 3 remains unreleased, and that Half-Life 3's release will make up for any other losses they may encounter at that time. [>>]
The Fourth Cult of Valve is just in it for the trading cards, anyway, so who even cares about those stupid trading-card-free clients.
The Fifth Cult of Valve are Gaben fetishists.
The Sixth Cult of Valve has a phobia towards curation services.

Anyway, cutting that short, I'm sure there are reasons unrelated to GOG for exclusively favoring Steam.
..However unusual those reasons may be.

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Doesn't take a cult to realize that Steam's less likely to fail than any other digital video game storefront currently in existence...

Why the hell are both sides so stupid? It's either one extreme or the other. Either Epic can fail and for some reason Steam just can't or preferring Steam is a cult now. Imagine if other arguments devolved into this nonsense. "You don't like the death penalty? So you'd instead set the criminals free and allow them to commit crimes?" or "You like the death penalty? So when a toddler takes a lollipop from a store by grabbing it and not letting it go, will you shoot it because of shoplifting?"

Can we not just be even a tiny bit rational for a moment?

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Some language notes, for anyone who may find them beneficial:

Cult:

  1. A system of [religious] veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
  2. A group holding a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing
  3. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

Parody:

  1. The deliberate use of exaggeration for comic effect, often also displaying elements of satire or irony.
  2. A serious matter which was handled in a manner so contrary to expectations that the situation presents itself as farcical.

(Related:)

Satire:

  1. The constructive use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize a situation, with the intent of encouraging social improvement.
  2. Addressing a matter with silly or exaggerated language with the intent of being humorous, while also having the intent of provoking deeper consideration of a topic.
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you forgot the part where there was no exaggeration used

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Well, GOG is the safest bet, but past that it's wise to invest in something proven that looks like it's going to stick around, so they have a good point. Steam at least is the overwhelming market leader and is unlikely to be going anywhere. Origin and Uplay are backed by major publishers (like Epic), but only sell their own games (unlike Epic). There's Blizzard's launcher, too. Let's see if Epic has success and lasts for a few years. Of course, it probably will be fine; it's backed by a huge company, too. But, if I were assigning risk ratings, I'd have to give Epic a worse rating than a more established client/system.

Bethesda has a launcher? That's news to me.

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Bethesda has a launcher but it failed soo much, so now they return to steam with all their upcoming game and will release soon the exclusive games too, those games won't be on epic which not a surprise based on past conflicts between epic and Bethesda.

All launcher can fail, however, I remember so valve stated in past if they will ever go out of business they give time to players to download games and all those games will be playable still through an offline client, I don't remember the exact interviews and don't have the links to it. Epic never stated such things and their EULA is one of the most dangerous I have ever seen in my life.

I personally will never buy games through epic, not because of steam or valve fanboying but because for me, as an end user, they provide the best service and I still can find enough games on steam. Epic can't buy out all games, there will be still enough games on steam and the timed exclusives will expire too.

The only annoying thing which will affect me is when humble start to add epic keys to monthlies, I guess that will be the end of my subscription.

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Really, what kind of stuff did you see in Epic's EULA that alarmed you?

I remember Valve saying that, too, and we can only believe them and be hopeful (and have some DRM-free backups). I'm optimistic when it comes to Steam continuing to thrive, though, or maybe I have to be because I've so much invested in it, like everyone else. :)
It's really in everyone's interest at this point for it to continue being a success. At the same time, I won't say no to freebies from Epic or GOG... :)
I don't see myself buying games from Epic's store; don't see the point. I barely every buy from Steam's store, anyway, only if there's a ~90% off deal that's too good to pass up. I have bought from GOG, though (again, on a great sale).

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yeah, I used it briefly when Quake Champions came out.

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All these online platforms can fail. That's a pretty weak argument because you're for some reason not seeing Steam for what it is.

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I guess this was unavoidable.

But you meant GDC, surely. :)

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Yes lol

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We need to protest HB for this. For a while I set the amount of money goes to HB tip at %12 (like Epic does, lol) on my bundle purchases, but I will set it to %0 if they start to give epic exclusive games on monthly. We never asked for epic crap and they need to inform & refund before doing that.

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The monthlies have a way too unhealthy Steam fetishism as it is. They stopped offering DRM-free versions of games they even sell as DRM-free on their store; just Steam keys only. Talk about locking down to one client… -.-

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It´s Epic Games really that bad? cause they have Hades and that game looks pretty damn good. Charging less money to the devs is a good way to compete, but as long as Steam has regional pricing will be on top.

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You need to check just what the epic launcher is looking at on your system, plus it is mostly, 48%, run by a Chinese company which is tossing money at companies to get games on it.

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Oh god NO

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Question for the SG community:

Do you think we will see a HB Monthly with no Steam games in it this year?

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Unlikely, as the Humble Monthly page says, "Redeem on Steam and Uplay and keep them forever."

I'd be mildly surprised if they included an Epic game among this month's games. To the best of my recollection, past Uplay and Blizzard games (The Division, Destiny, and Overwatch) have all been in early reveals (DRM-free non-Steam games aside). Part of it has been that, in the past, they have been headliner titles, however, it also avoids irate customers objecting that they didn't know there would be a non-Steam title until after they'd bought it, which could contribute to subscribers unsubscribing.

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I'm tempted to pause this month just in case it's nothing but Uplay links xD

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I totally forgot about it stating that! Thank you for reminding me :)

I guess I'll change up the question then.

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Nah. First is what DRMs they've announced (Steam & UPlay). But also, they would only have an altering DRM from Steam if it's an early reveal.

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