Plus they have a monthly subscription for G2A security, so extra charge everymonth
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But if we want to deal with G2A again, then it will start again or it will be extra charge per key
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But if don't check it and key doesn't work , they will simply give us the middle finger
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No, you get two options. First there's the one off additional charge of G2A shield, which only charges you once. Then prior to checkout it will ask you if you want 30 days free, just untick that. You'll still have G2A shield, but you won't have the monthly debit, you just have to pay for it at every transaction instead.
EDIT: Oh, you added 'it wil be extra charge per key'. Yeah, that. It's still usually way cheaper than buying from Steam or GMG or the like.
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So many posts about it... You should really check them out...
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G2A is a market just like ebay, or amazon marketplace for that matter. You don't know who you're buying from or if it was legit. So, if it's too cheap to be true it probabably is. But there's nothing bad with buying from G2A either.
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It's nothing like Ebay or Amazon.
Ebay and Amazon both guarantee their products work and match description, and offer a full refund if they don't, at no extra charge.
Ebay and Amazon obtain all their sponsored products legally, and pay all their taxes. G2A steals free/bundle keys, both illegal for a company to do, and doesn't pay proper taxes & fees.
Ebay and Amazon actively prevent misuse of the site and take legal action where necessary. G2A encourages illegal behavior.
G2A has a history (detailed on the forums here) of misaction toward feedback scores, stealing money from its users, and more.
One TENTH of the things about G2A mentioned could be true (and we already know most things are, between the G2A shield and developer-commented articles toward the rest), and it'd still be a bottom-of-the-barrel scum site, with much higher risks than Ebay or Amazon.
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Perhaps they're underneath the barrel? :'P
And well, yeah. G2A covers several sites, including HotRandomKeys and ORLY, the random keys and bundles on those sites really being where their free-key-farming tends to come up most.
ORLY's giveaway section may be the only part of any G2A site that actually is remotely legit- though I know there's subjective reasons to dislike it, it does seem to actually be on the up-and-up where dev interaction is concerned, and being giveaway-based, no chance of being scammed/paying protection fees/etc.
Thankfully, I've yet to have to interact with CDKeys :'P
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Yeah, like most international giants. Valve itself is registered in Luxembourg for its European activities, so they skim the tax-paying part as well. This is one of the larger issues the EU has to solve, the internal tax heavens.
Still, at least they pay some taxes. Which is a lot more than "none".
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You should be. Since governments need money, the less they make corporations pay, the more has to be taken from the average taxpayer person. If one is lucky, it is in the form of consumer taxes. If not, then income tax. (Which are two different things and can confuse a lot of people. This is why I gave up trying to tell a Russian that they are a LOT richer than us here, even if their actual salary is 20-25% lower, since we pay 50% more on everything we buy. If you read A Yankee in King Arthur's Court, I think it has a segment that has a similar conversation with similarly futile attempts of trying to describe basic economy to the thick-headed.)
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Anarchy in reality never led to anything. Humans are forming societies instinctively and will continue to do so as long as babies are born without any means to defend themselves. Even those anarchist movements that had some form of success, either institutionalised themselves or devoured each other.
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Right. Distasteful as it is, using loopholes to minimize your payments is a bit different than giving an outright middle-finger to your obligations.
And, either way, the rest of their conduct is far better.
With G2A, you're basically paying extra fees for the privilege of them scamming you. It's absurd :P
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True, but G2A doesn't. They try to act like a benevolent gaming corporation in front of the public. Just never ask them anything about their corporation itself, and especially don't ask questions like where does the site itself get its keys from or who are the owners. Or heck, are in the management.
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It's not an implication if it's said outright :P
And as talgaby noted, it's a different thing to pay 'some', than 'none'- to work with the law (flawed as it may be) than to think you're above it entirely.
Noone is saying mainstream companies are perfect, unflawed, or even good- just that G2A isn't on par with the companies it is regularly compared against, since it adheres to none of the standards (low as you may think they are) that the other sites do.
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Big difference between 'could' and 'did'- unless we're talking Minority Report, people generally aren't tried for crimes they COULD commit, or WOULD commit- just ones they actually do.
Noone really likes most businesses, most businesses are pretty sucky.
Doesn't mean we should give people that don't even adhere to the general expectations of business a free pass- and besides, the topic was a direct comparison between Ebay, Amazon, and G2A.
Regardless of any other factors, G2A still doesn't match up in its practices, to the other two.
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Well, they do in the sense that they use an address that apparently doesn't host any actual G2A office (didn't check the European address though for the child company in Poland) and no actual records of them ever paying any tax for the Hong Kong government (after all, despite the allegations of Russians behind the company, it is registered in HK, far away from any Western law).
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They actually give you the option when you purchase something to pick your tax region and status. It's set to tax exempt as standard, and I doubt all that many people change it. But the fact that they bothered to put that into place makes me wonder if they actually DO pay tax, at least on some transactions, or if it's just for show.
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Just for show. If they would actually pay tax, they wouldn't offer the option to cheat on your taxation location. This is how you can tell it is just for show or to get that 10-27% more money out of customers for free. If that box would be real, any tax agency could prosecute them.
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Also, when did Amazon's European branch ever pretend to be a good guy?
Afaik, they simply ignored the matter altogether until it became publicly relevant for them to change their practices.
Compare that to G2A, who flat out lies about their practices and never changes a thing.
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Well, I'm not promoting any company, I'm just pointing out that Amazon is essentially sitting down and number-crunching what they can, and are willing to do for an extra buck, and are renowned for things like their excellent customer service- that is, things they don't have to provide.
Comparatively, G2A is rolling around in money laughing, while coming up with new schemes to take money, without ever considering risks well, or pretending to care about their customers.
Even ignoring could/would and right/wrong, their conduct is still a lot, lot less professional and composed.
I mean, think about it this way: Punching someone is generally considered wrong.
Amazon will lightly punch you if they think they can get away with it, and apoologize when they couldn't.
G2A will punch you, laugh in your face, and punch you again when the matter is brought up.
Technically both companies did the same thing [punched you], but G2A's conduct was clearly the worse of the two.
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I'm talking about the marketplace. Not sales from ebay or Amazon themselves.
Edit: "doesn't pay proper taxes & fees"
I find that quite ironic when you compare that to ebay and amazon, or any other major company when you think about it ;)
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Just buy from users who have plenty of sales and 99%+ positive ratings. And keep in mind that they chuck on a couple of small charges if you want aforementioned key insurance and want to pay with paypal. So expect to pay an extra dollar or so over the advertised price.
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If you are to ever buy from G2A get a game from their officials sales that comes every weekend from friday to monday that is sponsored by someone else (sometimes its paypal or piedepie you get how it goes) usually you get a good price on a game but i think they are legit cause most of the times the game at those sales have different price from the same game that is sold from a user that sell it cheap and sometimes the deal is not that much different from a steam deal or even more expensive. I dont think you would have any problem with those officials sales but the rest of site is like trading with strangers with money you can never know who to trust so dont bother. A tip is if a game have a really bad start like mortal kombat 10 or batman arkham knight it hurts the public opinion and even tho some other retailers try not to drop the price too much those sponsor sales has no problem so you can get mortal kombat 10 for 10 euros but if you compare a good game like fallout 4 GMG was selling it this chrismas for 39 euros i think G2A sponsor sale was 43 based on those facts i can guess that there is no shady about those sales and i bought myself a few games that was a great bargain from those sales with no problem. Truth is the site does support scammers and will do nothing about so thats why a lot of poeple including myself have a bad opinion on them , myself if i am to save a lot of money from a game that is either crap or crappy start and not fully fixed and i want it i buy from them if i am to save a lot of money but if its like only 10 euros i prefer others. From a point of view the devs shouldnt release a game that is unplayable on a 60 euro price and go away with an apology a few patches that dont solve everything plus poeple who bought at full price and didnt get a refund so they can support gets nothing and at next sale that game goes for 20% max just cause its new
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Short version: it is a flea market where the market owner itself sells keys they acquired on the best sales in massive quantities and sell for a 15-250% profit, or even more. (No, not a typo.)
The only difference between an actual flea market, that like many online auction sites, it offers buyer protection. Where it lets you know that this is an organisation that is registered outside Western law jurisdiction is that they force you to pay for said protection, which is normally a legal obligation for them. (Plus, you know, the whole fake address and no data on the actual owners bit kinda scream tax evasion too…)
What you have to remember that their prices are never actually the best ones, but they offer the limited deals you may have missed with a profit margin all year long. This naturally also means that each cent you send them will never see the makers of the game, just their own pockets and the pockets of those they pay to advertise them.
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What's your point? These were paid for in the first place, so the creators got what they asked. If game makers and Steam wanted to bypass this sort of middle-man behaviour they would open up space for a digital second-hand market (that used to be a thing, remember) - perhaps where you could pay a percentage of the games price to refresh the keys for your games so you could sell them on or trade them.
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The point in the last paragraph is that G2A is a corporation that doesn't even want the pretense that they are paying their taxes and the share of the publisher/developer. When the profit margin is low, they are essentially the same as any online retailer, yes. But when it goes way beyond 100%… and look at the price of any bundled indie game, and you'll see a lot larger profit margins (seeing any Humble Bundle key under 150% profit is as rare as a sane sentence in a Donald Trump interview).
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From my experience it's a perfectly legit site and only problem I had with it was when 2K retroactively region locked and recalled some Civ5 keys. G2A refunded my purchases after providing proof that was what happened and everything was fine otherwise. A lot of nay-saying seems to be coming from people who can't read and wonder why their bought games don't work when it clearly says "works only for region X" or similar cases.
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Yeah, I've been fairly impressed with them in that regard. I remember Origin de-activated a bunch of keys that they discovered had been purchased with stolen credit cards, which naturally caused a lot of anger to the people affected. But G2A offered refunds for all those affected.
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Nope a lot of nay saying is coming from people who don't want to turn their heads wondering if the keys they bought were ackquired in a under the counter manner. Which was, as it seems the case with your Civ5 keys - the only reason a publisher would do that was is the keys were obtained by the seller in a fradulent manner.
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Please don't confuse the term "legit" with "I haven't had any problems yet". They're not the same. G2A is in no way "legit". They're in no way an authorized re-seller.
A lot of nay-saying comes from people who want to directly support the developers and games industry, don't approve of theft, or want to know exactly where their keys are coming from. You can buy from a trusted seller on G2A, sure, but supporting the site at all is also indirectly supporting the "not so honorable" sellers on there as well.
Also, any site that sells you "protection" for your purchases should be questioned (G2A Shield) -- you should be entitled to your purchase once payment is made, not charged extra to be sure you get what you're paying for.
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Yeah, I often get my Steam Game Keys from GMG, Bundlestar, Orlygift and IndieGala. So I can buy keys to gift my friends since I'm Region SEA Lock...Or buy bundles.
Just wanted to know about whats G2A all about.
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