Seriously, what would happen? I know they still make a shitload of money annually but shit happens...

This is me paranoid after a food company that made the best ramen in my country just went bankrupt and there's almost zero chance of me eating their delicious food again ;_;

Some might say that Valve is like a giant in the Industry. Well giants do fall at times. Look at Sierra! Nobody thought it would go down like that :(

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It'd probably disappear? QUICK, INSTALL ALL OF YOUR GAMES AND HOPE TO GOD THEY WORK SEPARATE FROM THE DRM OF STEAM!

If not, then hope to God you've got a nice DRM-Free collection

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I was recently looking at the list of drm free steam games, it was longer than I expected.

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You'll be glad you installed every game in your library, and proceed to playing offline :)

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how could I possibly download all them games? :(

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Steam already gives you the option to backup game data. Start burning discs, or get an external hard drive if you want a physical copy.

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Those backups do not restore without a connection to the Steam servers.
Steam client verifies how much of the backed up data matches the data available for download before restoring the backed up data.
So, Steam client's backups are useless if the download servers go down. If those servers stay up, you can download from the servers anyway.

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Yep - that's why I have 4,561.89 GB of files downloaded.

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What happen to internet and android phones if google is bankrupt?

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We use pager

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Use Apple?

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NEVER!

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Already do

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Or Blackberry, like me

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Lol they are in the worst shape, if anybody goes they are first in line.

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Other companies/owners would take over. Things doesn't just disappear if they go bankrupt. Someone always owns the company and their actives.

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tell that to the people who bought hmv giftcards. they essentially prepaid for a purchase and that money and their items got claimed as assets to be sold and used to pay off creditors. the cards were declared void a week after the big push to "sell as many giftcards as you can for christmas" the customer is always last
also I think the preorder people got screwed too, not sure.

(edit- looked it up on google, adding this bit: I mean yeah, when they reopened they said they'll honor them(for a limited time) but thats only cause they reopened.)

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hmv reopened?

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Use disc phones?

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Android is at least partly open source so manufacturers would still be able to use android, I think.

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I would move to an Ubuntu phone or a Tizen phone, or whichever opensource Linux-based OS seems to have the biggest community at that point of time.

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Android is a Linux-based OS :P And partially opensource

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I know. But without the main force of Google behind it, it would end up as a completely fragmented OS, which is why I would move to another.

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Im sure that there would be some kind of a patch that would let you launch your already installed games without steam, and a period of warning like a week so everyone has a chance to download their games.

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Valve confirmed that they have ways to revoke the DRM thing so that people can access all of their games when it comes to that.

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this!

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I have read in the past that Gabe & tech support have mentioned to people that they have some idea/method of allowing people access to most of their games if Valve ever disappears. Not sure how viable this will be with all the copyrights, but it might be possible if they remove drm and release some of the games they have control of for free/opensource to allow network access.

Valve is in a good position so this is unlikely to happen for a long time, but at the same inevitable in a few decades.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/18mzcn/i_asked_steam_support_what_happens_to_my_games_if/

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or go pirate. Arrrrh!

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then you will pirate games you used to own, that's fair

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… Would it actually be "pirating" when you still own the licences?!?

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Yes, to be honest.

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No it's not.

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yes it is, you hold a license associate with a specific key of the game not the one you pirate. Also I like your profile picture, not many people I know watch that show =D

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Who says no one keeps their keys?

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Then you pirate something you paid for.

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you still own the licenses you rightfully purchased (you have proofs of purchase and valve has them as well, i believe there's some law obligation to keep them for a certain time), so, pretty much this.

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No, you buy a subscription to a license.

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Once Valve can not uphold their part of the contract (allow me to use the license i've "subscribed" to) nor offer a full refund, they can't keep the license for themselves... especially in the EU, where once you purchase a license you are (or at least you should be) entitled to keep or resell it as you want.

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But the licence probably never stated that their end was to provide infinite access or give you a refund. It is probably within there legal right to just close down shop, and leave you high and dry.

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What the licence/TOS stated and what is legal is quite different. If you are accused of pirating something, and you can produce proofs that you actually own a Steam license, it's highly improbable that the company will still sue you and even in that case chances that you're eventually found guilty are next to 0 (they still got your money).

Anyway, Steam is way too big to fail without consequences. I mean, it can still fail, but it will affect so many people that the license problem will be considered.

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What you want to be legal and what the law actually is are two very different things.
In every country in the world it would still be illegal. You might hope to get a reduced sentence under those circumstances, but there is loads of corporate pressure in the opposite direction. The courts have already upheld that breaking DRM, even when that is the only option to get the content you own but can no longer access because of server closers is illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Obsolescence

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Your installed games are on your HDD, if they feel like it they could make them available offline. For the games you only own and don't have downloaded it might be trickier, they might be lost forever.

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I'd buy a massive HDD and download everything, because I assume we'd be warned first if such a thing was ever to happen, it wouldn't just shut down randomly

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imagine the massive download rate at that time...

the porn industry goes down for months and no hats are purchased during those time to ease the internet's traffic

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So the end of Steam would be the end of the internet :O

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EA buys Valve. And we hope we get to keep our licenses.

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Could be worse, could be the US government buying Bank of America which bought Disney that bought EA which bought Valve and PETA.

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EA would never be able to buy Steam since they might have to demolish either Steam or Origin to enthrone the other as the supreme king of digital game distributors.

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Same reason why microsoft would never buy Skype because of msn messenger..... oh wait.

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maybe merge them?

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+1 for hoping whoever gets it decides we get to keep the licenses. not sure its ea but still

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OriSteam makes its debut. Millions of heads explode. Typical Tuesday.

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EA: So you have spent thousands of dollars in games? Too bad, you have to purchase them again.

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Ha, jokes on you as Steam doesn't sell licenses, they offer "subscriptions".

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Gaben would free all the games that he can from Steam's DRM as a last farewell.

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I think you know the answer

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World war 3

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World war 2 Episode 1*

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lol'd

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:D

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hah n1

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if that ever happens i'm going to return to the darkness where i was born, called....piracy....

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Here we go again...

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You would get a transitional timeframe to download whatever you had to your hardware... so you could play them...

After that, no more downloading

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lets see here
15 posts on this page originally
world war 2 episode 1
Talk of valves death

This can only mean one thing.....

Shenmue III confirmed

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Forget Half-Life 3, I want Shenmue 3! Honestly, I would. :)

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Skynet takes control.

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And every human is gonna die

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What happens when a meteorite destroys earth, will I still get to keep my steam games?

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Indeed, nothing can destroy a cloud! Right ... ?

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only if its stored on the moon or something thats not on earth.

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Oooh you totally missed the joke. =(

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oh that was a joke well. sorry different context.

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They die, your library dies.

GabeN said "if Steam dies, you'll be able to download and play", but I'm pretty sure that's as true as playing first Halo's multiplayer on not-supported-by-MS-now Xbox.

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Hah.. yea.. I remember them saying that on the old steam forums due to a lot of fear people started to have about that due to a company falling not long before that answer.

Though I think you are right.. and it is part of the reason why at some point I want to install all of the games I have. At the very least have them on dvd or something stored.. ya know? ( .. dang it.. Final Fantasy 10 popped in my head.. )

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They will stay around on the internets (torrents, cyberlockers...), no worries :)

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I'm not sure that's the sort of resolution Gaben and his buddies were offering though :)

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Nope, but it is a backup solution if everything else fails (i.e. if a meteorite hits Valve HQ and everyone dies) :D

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I vaguely remember Valve saying something along these lines.

So, are we to believe that a significant amount of cash has been ring-fenced by Valve in order to pay for these banks of servers which whill be required in order to store and distribute all of the existing games on Steam to its multi-million strong userbase?

Any such funds would need to be held in an entirely separate company to protect the money from any bankruptcy proceedings or other claims, should the worst happen...

As you say, it all sounds pretty unconvincing.

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This can't happen. Existence of Valve is one of the fundamental laws of the Universe. It's like asking what's gonna happen if the gravity ceases to exist.

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Either someone else would chip in and buy the company or they "sell out" and sell some of their shares with Microsoft or some other company, or go DRM-Free and have you play your library somehow, maybe by using another service.

All keys transferred to EA Origin. =D

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Some other company would buy them and continue working as it is.

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If valve went bankrupt someone must likely would buy steam off them.

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likely EA. So more hats huh!?

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IF valve will go bankrupt .. not very likely but never say never, there will be probably be a company buying them up. probably microsoft or .. sighs .. disney... anywho Steam is very popular and will not "go under" soon. But in the freak chance it does go belly up: install all games on HD thats the safest bet.

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