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yeeiser

Well there is a big possibility that I will get 1000$ in the next few days and since I have been without a pc for the last year I want to buy a new one.

I was thinking on this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B012AO2GSW/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00SV7IU8S

Or this one (with specific parts, some chosen by myself): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ryWZpg

Having in mind that shipping will cost 200-300$ and Amazon makes shipping WAY stressless Im thinking on getting the one from Amazon.

Opinions? Which would be better to run games like GTA V, Fallout 4, The Phantom Pain, The WItcher 3, etc? Any other rigs you think would be better with this budget?

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Is any of these PCs shoulg I get?

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Khale

That iBuyPower PC is a complete freaking ripoff. Don't buy that shit.
That's a $99 CPU, $190 GPU, $40 in RAM (depending on brand, speed & CAS Latency), and $60 HDD... I'd need to know the MoBo in it and all to give a complete judgement of it, but as it is it's probably only around $450ish in parts and they want nearly $800 for it. That is the biggest fucking ripoff I've seen lately.

8 years ago
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DirtyAtom

That pre-built is a rip off. Why do you say shipping costs $200-300?

Building a PC with similar specs can cost under $500. I put together a full setup for under $1K (including shipping, but you'll have to use rebates) that should do everything you want.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XnNGQ7

Some notes: The CPU (Intel Core i5-6400) is basically a newer 4460 with DDR4 RAM support (which I took advantage of). The OS costs $20 at places like /r/microsoftsoftwareswap or G2A. If you want a mechanical keyboard, make sure to test out different types to see what fits you the most.

8 years ago
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yeeiser

Shipping laws and taxes in my country are a steal so shipping something to here is stupidly expensive. Your recomendations look very good, with a few changes here and there I can make it fit within the limit of my budget.

Things like mechanical keyboards or gaming mouses arent in priority list

8 years ago
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talgaby

Oh boy…
Neither.

The pre-built is overpriced by at least a hundred, and it has so many bottlenecks it is more like a bottleneck in itself.

The custom one has troubles too. Do you want me to list them or should I just try to get you a build with a set budget to give you some ideas?

8 years ago
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yeeiser

If you could recommend me a good build that would be awesome!

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talgaby

Okay, then I assume you have the budget of 750 USD:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/r9XPCJ

Changes to your one:

  • Much better CPU. The 4690 has been the de facto gaming CPU for years now, with reason, and the only reason that it's not the #1 is that the 4790 exists. Since the difference is over 20 USD, I stayed with the 4690.
  • SSD for system. While there is little difference in performance between an SSD and a good 7200 rpm HDD, for a Windows system, SSD means a lot. Really, really lot. With an SSD, you can extend the life span of a Windows system to several years instead of 6-18 months before it slows down to a crawl.
  • Dual-channel memory with the option to upgrade to 16 GB later. 8 GB is entry level now, and dual-channel provides enough performance boost (2-5%) to justify its need. By the time this PC will be obsolete (~2019), you won't need 32 GB for gaming and everyday operations yet.
  • Weaker GPU. That CPU you chose would have been a massive bottleneck, never letting you to utilise the power of the card. I put in a simple 4 GB R9 380 instead. It will carry you the same, but maybe you won't be able to play 4k on Ultra in a year or two. The difference isn't worth it; you'd need +25 USD for the PSU and +30 USD for the CPU at the minimum, plus another 50 USD to have enough memory to support everything. That's a hundred bucks just to have a proper system for the GPU.
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yeeiser

Thanks for the recommendations! I dont want to play at extreme resolutions (1360x768, I like small screens) and Im looking for something that doesnt need an upgrade in at least 3 or 4 years (and with this I mean playing the future games no matter what, no matter if on minimum and crappy resolution) so this build sounds great for what I am looking for.

With the monitor and the wireless adapter it would cost around 800$. Leaving me enough (or close to the exact amount of money) to pay shipping. Thanks!

8 years ago
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talgaby

Strange that you want to have only that small resolution, but if you are sure you will stick to 768p, then the configuration I sent you should last at least 4 years, or more, depending on how fast requirements climb (if at the same rate as with the next console generation, it can push up to six years at that resolution, although you will need to add at least 8 GB more RAM within 2 years).

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yeeiser

I got used to playing games at poor resolution and/or graphics. My last pc lasted 5 years without any upgrades, playing games at 800x600 and minimum graphics.

My biggest concern is the durability of the pc in terms of gaming. Its almost impossible to buy a pc where I live so if Im going to get one I want to make sure it is something that will last for years

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talgaby

Then apart from the need to invest also in a better grade CPU cooler next summer, you may be set with this rig. Intel CPUs have very good heat tolerance and AMD GPUs still live quite long. The PSU is a good quality one.

8 years ago
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JacobJub

For shipping why don't you get the one month free trial of amazon prime?

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yeeiser

I already did a while ago. I still had to pay shipping (but it was a bit cheaper, still overpriced tho)

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JacobJub

Depending on where you live they may charge you with taxes. They did that to me too. Maybe try newegg primeir.

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yeeiser

I live in Venezuela. Yeah, taxes are a headache

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SeTuR

Maybe better go 16Gb ram ?
Batman AK despite needing 8 used 12+ Gb
And when you want Intel you would wanna get DDR4 rather than DDR3

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talgaby

No. You really don't. Not for years. The performance gain is around zero even with the new Intel architectures:
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2015/september/ddr3_vs_ddr4_generational
And it is zero with the CPU family he is more likely getting:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8
DDR4 currently has the only role of people being able to say they have DDR4 RAM for e-peen contests but has no practical advantage.

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SeTuR

I wasn't even thinking about performance....
Read about power control and DDR controller with comparisons. In two words new intel with DDR3 gets heated more and use more voltage on the core witch degrades in about 3 years wile with DDR4 it works for 8+ years (the numbers are from the "labs" obviously)
Reed article in foreign languages, so wont search and link them.

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