Or not trying at all. Its overall quality has dropped so much. Too much concentration on small indie games that no one knows or likes, not enough concentrating on bigger games (not necessarily AAA) that could help Humble's cause more by attracting more buyers.
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Its called Humble Indie Bundle for a reason.
Also, you have to consider who would be more willing to accept a pittance for their games to get the attention. Most big companies don't need a massive cut to become known.
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I have seen quite a few games on Humble Bundle that would HARDLY be considered Indie.
And again, I didn't say AAA companies/games; I said bigger games. Like, Space Engineers, for example. That was on Humble Bundle once, and it did really well for Humble. Now you get all these weird tiny games from indie devs that aren't being marketed well enough.
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and what is those "weird tiny games" you speak of ?
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Well, to each their own, clearly. This thread seems to be divided roughly 50-50, give or take.
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And like I said, the big games don't need to drop their prices to get attention.
Companies already able to sell their stuff don't need to do it for a few cents a copy.
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They still use it in a number of their main bundles, so no.
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That is what I'm referring to, given as for a long time, HIB was all the bundles they did. But even without that, their releases have been mostly smaller indie titles.
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No, it's just people's expectations are unrealistic due to having been spoiled by so many bundles. And they run bundles/promos so often now that it's basically impossible to meet those expectations. It used to be months between Humble Bundles back in the 'old' days. Also, one could make a good case that the recent Humble Indie Bundle 11 was arguably the best ever offered.
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^ I agree the main Humble Bundles are still awesome, but they are helping over-saturate the market with these weekly & daily bundles too.
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The good bundles still come out around the same time it used to take them to come out, but now they just throw in tons of other ones during the wait.
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I wish they re-bundle the Indie Bundle 11. I didn't get the chance to buy it :(
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I've been happy enough with several of the recent ones. The daily stuff is pushing it though.
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I have that game in a bundle with even other games for around dollar-ish.
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I fell victim to a couple of the daily ones so far, being able to just donate all the money makes it so much easier for me to fall victim to their bad deals :P
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To be honest is really hard to beat the Origin bundle and the THQ both standard and weekly, but yes, I think the latest bundles were crap imho. Last one I got was the HiB 11.
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yah HiB 11 was the last one worth buying. and that was around 3 months ago, so my point stands.
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And 3 months is hardly that long ago. Anyone who thinks so has no concept of and lacks perspective on the history of bundles.
Also, a quick peek at your Steam profile reveals you have yet to touch even a single one of those games from Humble Indie Bundle 11. So in light of that it begs the question: why should this even have the significance that you are trying to give it when you have this set of unplayed games that are simply collecting dust? Not that I don't have my own backlog of games, but I'm also not about to go around worrying about or criticizing the perceived quality of Humble Bundles while that is the case. That is like asking for more food when you haven't even touched what is served on your plate.
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I'm waiting for another Origin bundle. I hope they will make a BF3 DLC bundle or something like that ^__^
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That'll require EA to submit more of their games for the offering, which isn't likely going to happen any time soon. They typically only do this as a lure for new customers and to tempt people over the dividing line into Origin. Not that it's a bad thing to have new games to consider buying, but EA are financial warlords that won't let anything slip unless they believe they have something to gain. If they do go for it, it'll be older games or the base game to something that is swimming in DLC, and it'll be as damage control after a series of negative publicity (or as a lure before/during a 'big attraction').
Sure, it's all just good business sense, but it's just way too transparent.
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I'd like to see something like Dragon Age since that has a lot of DLC or KoA even though I have it I'd like to gift it to a friend or my brother.
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Hold up man, last few sales were ridiculous. Artworks for PWYW? Seriously? Those daily deals are ridiculous. And I wouldn't mind if Humble Bundle just provided some less known games in their bundles (like the one with PopCap games or casual games) but constant repeats and bundles with games which prices are the same as digital store prices are not good bundles at all. IMHO Groupees and Indie Gala are way better nowadays than HB. They have a lot of bundles and they always provide something new, something fresh, something different. Not constantly the same things. And their pricings are very good too. I have a feeling that Humble just reached their peak and they rest on their laurels. They don't even try anymore.
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+1
I haven't grabbed a bundle for myself from HB for over 3-4 months which used to be the only good bundle imo, grabbed at least 2 bundles every month or so from them, i'd pick up 2-3 IG bundles over the course of a whole year, and probably groupees once every 2 months.
Now just these past 2 weeks i've purchased 3 IG bundles and quite a few groupees bundles as well, seems like HB is just too focused on becoming a marketleader/established name rather then delivering good quality bundles once in a while.
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Not liking what they're offering (and offering up a critique on their pricing) is a far cry from a swansong for Humble, though.
You're also forgetting that Groupees typically offer lots of low-grade padding items. Yeah, they've been getting better, and they've always offered up quirky bundles (music, comics, etc) that have been hit or miss, but that's beside the point. Competition is good. Not being in first place 100% of the time doesn't automatically mean something is becoming terrible. The "Kids these days" remark seemed to me like a facepalm towards the overly alarmist/judging attitudes.
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Its bringing certain titles to light, and it is up to your judgement whether you want them or not. Some I have to have and others are not my cup of tea per se, but it is someone elses, so it seems to appeal to a multitude of gamers, just not one set.
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Its actually capitalising on the fact that school is ending, kids and adults are getting out of school, and/or graduating with monetary gifts and disposable income over the summer... Nothing at all about losing steam, if you paid attention, you'd notice this with almost every business in America.
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They've been trying to squeeze the market for every last penny and have been at it for a long time now.
For those of us who follow bundles on a regular basis, it gets really boring. While we're still getting the awesome bundles from time to time, the waiting that used to build up anticipation and culminated in a great surprise, has been replaced by a constant churning of repeats and not so good deals.
In a way, Steam sales have followed the same trajectory (losing steam...), so: nice pun there.
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Squeezing the market for every last penny implies that they are manuevering customers into awkward or disadvantaged situations to gain more money. They still have a minimum buy-in of $1 which is pretty generous when you consider the amount of reseller abuse they're seeing. Offering everything at absolute ground-zero prices is potentially a suicidal move depending on what costs and abuses they're suffering.
Repeated or uninspiring bundles? Sure. Yet far from any shade of the devil.
If I'm not mistaken, they were the ones who started the name-your-price and bundles wave, where before that, hearing "Name your own price" and "Multiple games" in the same sentence was a kind of pinch-me-is-it-real kind of miracle. On the store side of things, they've been matching (and beating) some of Steam's prices lately, sales included.
Remember, competition in the Steam-dominated market a GOOD thing, as is bundles, whether or not they all tickle you.
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I don't know who you're talkingto there I've never said Humble is the devil or that competition is not a good thing. As far as I'm concerned they can cancel all the resold keys, but that has nothing to do with the amount of rehashing they've been doing,
If I read your post alone I'd think it's some lone voice whereas the disillusionment towards Humble is growing every day. In that light I think that my own post was well balanced, not denying they do have their high points but acknowledging their everyday is hardly exciting.
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The recent TSG weekly Humble Bundle was pretty good.
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They're fine. The main problem is that they're making too many of them. They don't give people time to save up anymore before a "buy now before the price is jacked!" comes along and there is no more WOW factor.
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It's not their fault they had to bump up the prices and keep the second week games to BTA only, people were buying hundreds of them for $1 and reselling them, and before the $6 BTA it would normally hover around $3 for 10 games. I never expected a slew of amazing bundles from this daily experiment, they had to put together 13 more bundles in the same amount of time as well as the Spring Sale deals at the Store.
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In return they'd also sell far fewer bundles. They have two options, disable gifting in any way or suck it up.
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I think they can probably cut out the $0.01 and $1 buyers without crying at night when they sleep.
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Without the $1 price tag, they do not get the same buzz online.
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Similarly, with a minimum buy-in and further degrees of tiering, they could potentially attract more reluctant developers and higher quality products to counter this. This doesn't work on a binary scale of "no limits, all attention" and "some limits, no attention", it goes on a sliding scale, and all they have to do is find the right balance. Besides, look at Origin and the prices they charge for stuff. Crazy limits and pricing don't have too much of a detrimental effect if the products are tempting enough, regardless of reputation or conduct.
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I think people willing to pay a decent price for a bundle is more valuable than a bunch of people who buy them for $1. Besides, they have good enough deals as it is that most of the people who only pay $1 now would pay more if they had to.
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I'd like to hear any other possible system you can propose where people can buy games, en-masse, and prevent them from re-selling? Without restrictions, there is no other option.
Unless you can reprogram humanity.
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I'm saying that "Try this suggestion of mine, or do nothing at all" is a bit of a facepalm-worthy response. I don't need to offer further alternatives to point that out, much like I can point out when a poop-pie isn't really good on a menu without having to bake something myself. :P
Though now you mention it, the alternate could be to simply lift the minimum buy-in slightly, to help recoup their losses from mass-resalers. Or to implement a limit of purchases. Or one of the steps they've already taken : Add pricing tiers as so to help cut their losses (and tempt in more reluctant developers with a safety net of sorts). Single-stroke solutions to problems like this don't often exist, especially given the entire "If it takes ten days to build a wall, it takes only one to break it" thing.
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I think a paypal block might be good as well. If you buy 5 or so of a certain bundle, your paypal is done and you can't buy any more of that bundle. That means you can still buy for family and friends that might not have a bundle, but you can't abuse it to an absurd amount like now.
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They stay alive by pushing out bundles, so most of them are shit.
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i guess you could say its losing.... STEAM!. i was waiting for somebody to make that joke.
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It's not only Humble Bundle fault... how many bundles sites we have these days, around 20 ? They probably try to keep the quality of their bundles at the best level, but when you have other concurents like Indie Gala, Bundle Star, Groupees, etc. which are releasing 1, 2, 3 (or more) bundles each week, it's probably hard to get some exclusives and good games to put on your bundles.
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Yea I agree with this, there are so many competitors out there now that they lose a lot of originality, that also might contribute to the crazy amount of bundles they have going on all at the same time, but hey the more options the better!
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IMO Humble's been like this for quite some time. They started out with a bang (of quality) and since they've been hit or miss. I think they're a great attribute to the gaming community as a whole though. Lots of struggling developers have gotten help from them and tons of money has been contributed to charity.
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The hell are you talking about?? I loved Humble Indie Bundle 11 and that was just two months ago (Maybe you think two months is too much time but considering the quality of it I don't think so)
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I wish there's a website that data mines hib's sale performance in each bundle they do.
I bet that it will be a rising graph until they reach starting offering repeat bundles, then some spikes on really good ones like origin and thq. Then further downhill slope since their bundles gets downvoted really hard in reddit (The HIB person even stopped posting their deals on reddit, although I assume it was only shadowbanned because it is generally not allowed in reddit)
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I'm not familiar with the term "shadowbanned", but I see a lot of announcements from IndieGala and BundleStars on /gamedeals, so I guess announcing bundles is fine with the reddit mods.
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its been a few months since ive seen a humble bundle worth buying, what are your thoughts.
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