Who will win the "next gen" race?
Nintendo has a weird controller again, Xbox has too many restrictions and Playstation wants to charge for PSN now. To make matters worse for them... Steam is now in the race.
Which system(s) are you getting (if any) and why?

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Steam, because it's the most powerful one!

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Steam machines will also stream games directly from your pc

1 decade ago
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Except technical superiority and market success have never correlated, historically.

1 decade ago
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it has occasionally im thinking of the SNES doing fairly well against the genesis/megadrive when i was just getting into gaming, youd be right with the vast majority of comparisions i had a dreamcast which on paper should have been way better than the PS2 i got later but in fact wasnt so profitable and was the final nail in sega's hardware division :(

1 decade ago
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+1

1 decade ago
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None of them. I ll just throw some new components on my PC when the time comes.

1 decade ago
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What do you plan on putting in your PC?

1 decade ago
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Blue paint and throw it into the sea. Then i can try to do something with my life.

Or
i might buy new cpu, mobo, and ram. Haven't concluded in specifications yet.

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hot dog

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Steam's basically selling a prefab linux PC. Calling SteamBox a console is like calling everything Alienware creates a console.

If SteamBox wins, it's a win for PC gaming. It's just a PC.

I'd say that the benefit to SteamBox is that it normalizes expected hardware between a greater number of users. While programmers already design toward the most common system specs, if this group becomes the majority group, programmers will have less of a need to adjust for a low-power median performance level.

We're continuing to see see a little more of the console ease-of-use coming to PCs and consoles are implementing a lot of the BS that PC users used to deal with that they didn't like. I've witnessed this over the last fifteen years.

My 'console' will be an AMD R9 290X sometime 1Q 2014. Unless Nvidia does something fantastic, which I believe they will.

1 decade ago
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"If SteamBox wins, it's a win for PC gaming. It's just a PC." - Cheeseburgermafia
With SteamBox even existing, I think that's a huge win for PC gamers alone. not to mention if it wins.

1 decade ago
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Clarification: "If SteamBox wins as a console,..."

1 decade ago
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I am extremely happy with nextgen. As a proud owner of Hd7870 and FX8320 I feel I'll be safe with my rig for next few years, since it already runs stuff faster than nextgen consoles are supposed to (new cod, bf4 - both downscaled in resolution and/or fidelity (on consoles), both run great on ultra on my rig). Given that new DX is more cpu/gpu friendly (50% increase in fps in bf4 compared to the old one) and AMD Mantle is on its way (and the number of devs keen to support it is growing), it should be a great generation for me. Games already look fine IMHO. My wallet is content.

Plus - my steam/origin/uplay backlog is getting MASSIVE. And it GROWS. I almost don't feel the 'need' for that nextgen right now.

1 decade ago
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Sadly, that isn't hard to do. Both Microsoft and Sony have released there console specs and it is very affordable to out do that on PC even now before the systems have been released.

1 decade ago
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Exactly. Why would I throw 500$ on limited hardware I don't need while I can build something better for similar money, and get the option to make music, edit videos, work and browse internet on it? In the future the equivalent of my current PC will be even cheaper, and consoles will remain the same (= below it's capabilities). One day I'll have an option to upgrade it for the money I save on games (which are usually a lot cheaper on steam) - and enjoy even greater experience, if I ever feel that I need it.

When x360 and ps3 came out I had a good reason to go and buy one. Now I see none. And I'm happy with it. Moar moneyz saved for other stuff.

1 decade ago
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I couldn't of said it better

1 decade ago
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When the 360 and the PS3 came out, I was pretty jealous of the gaming available.

Then I noticed that a lot of XBLA games were being released on PC. And a lot of the console games I wanted to play were being ported to PC with better graphics, and alternative games existed for the titles that weren't porten. I decided I should just drop a 100 USD GPU into my system to match a 299-399 USD console.

1 decade ago
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I wouldn't say anyone would win. It's just a friendly competition with each other that motivates each other to make better products.

If I HAD to pick one though, I'd go with Nintendo.

1 decade ago
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Nintendo? I did not see that one coming.... Why Nintendo? Dose WiiU have an exclusive title you have been waiting for?

1 decade ago
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Next Gen Buyer's Guide

Originally uploaded 5 June 2013, somehow prophetic.

1 decade ago
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Hahahahaha!!!!

1 decade ago
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I just play on the PC and don't really need the new consoles. But I was always a fan of Nintendo. Their games and new console ideas just interests me much more and looks fun rather than the others which just seem to mostly focus on the performance and graphics.

It's very unlikely that I'll actually play it myself but still, I'm looking forward to what the next Super Smash Bros and Zelda game would be like.

1 decade ago
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PS4, nuff said.

1 decade ago
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You are ok with being forced into purchasing Playstation+ in order to play your games online, have access to the store and use network apps?

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Why wouldn't I? I get free games, extra discount and cloud storage. I get 1 hour trail of full version games and early acces to beta's and demo's. Boohoo.

1 decade ago
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Most of that is free on Steam.

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yeah friend, Steam dose do all of those things at no cost to the player (BTW) your "free" games on PSN are only free as long as you stay a "+" member. As soon as you are not, your games are no longer valid. Steam never takes anything back.

1 decade ago
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They wont get revoked -_-. You just cant play them until you're PS+ member again.... Also whats the problem? Since you have to pay for online anyway..

1 decade ago
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I think paying for online is a problem honestly. I am already paying for my internet, why should I have to pay for it twice?

1 decade ago
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I get your point, that was the main reason why I took a PS3 instead of a 360. But Sony tries to make it worth to pay for the service, and honestly they do it really good.

1 decade ago
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Since when does most mean 1 out of 5?

The only thing steam offers for free is Cloud Storaga, and not every game supports that...

1 decade ago
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Free games and discounts?

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Free games in free to play games. And just regular discounts. PSN does both without PS....

So its still only the free cloud sharing...

1 decade ago
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Yes, free as in "you don't need to pay anything". Also, -75% is -75%, regular or whatever.

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I know what you mean with free. Read comment again...

Also -75% is regular here too. But on PS+ more frequently or just extra discount....

1 decade ago
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how much of a discount are you really getting when you add in the monthly or yearly fees?

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Enough.

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steam itself is free

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PSN itself is also free.

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but you wont be able to USE psn for free

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Yes you are able to use PSN for free. You won't be able to use PS+ for free. Did you even know what you're talking about?

Also did you made this topic only to cry about how "great" Steam is? Pathetic.

1 decade ago
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I made this topic in hopes someone would perhaps change my mind. I had already decided to go with steam this gen. I was just seeing if somebody could convince me to go back to Playstation. Instead I get you. I am not pathetic for trying to open my mind, you are, for closing yours. I get it, you have a Hard on for Sony, I did once too, but then I did my research.

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Yeah sure, to change your mind.... Thays why you cracking off everything that ain't Steam... Looks like you're the one who has a has a Hard on some service here....

Also if you actually did research you would have know there would be very little differences.

But I stop here, I already gave you my 2 cents, not going to make 3 cents of it.

1 decade ago
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I understand that there little differences, that's why I made this topic. to discuss them. That's a big reason my question here is not just what you plan to play on, but also why.

1 decade ago
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Since I barely ever turn on my PS3 any more, I'll probably get a PS4 a few years after launch when they are cheaper and there are enough exclusives to warrant it.

Or whenever the PS4 version of Gran Turismo comes out :D

1 decade ago
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If I had the money I would probably buy an XBOX, but since I don't have any.. I'll just keep using my PC :P

1 decade ago
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PS4. But that's only if I were forced to choose one, no more, no less, and had no PC option. Talking as though we only had a choice between the big three, as media and fanboys dictate, is a false choice.

I'd gladly buy a PS4/XB1 if the price were about 200 USD, which is what I plan to spend to push my PC above console performance once again. I'm currently leaning toward PS4, but paying for full online support on any console seems a ripoff if you already have to pay for internet access besides.

1 decade ago
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pc you silly little peasant.

1 decade ago
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None. PC for the win.

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Actually, the real question is: what will happen to the industry due to the fact that nextgen sucks so much balls?

Few months ago I still had a lot of hope regarding nextgen capabilities, but not now. The "PS/Xbox will outclass pc for years" dream is over now. A budget PC can easily compete with console hardware, BF and COD is a proof. The 'optimization' dream is over aswell - with console architecture being so close to the pc, the optimization benefit will not be as massive as it was in current-gen. And it shows. Also, PC games are (and will be) getting more and more optimized thanks to the new DX and Mantle. Even if they, somehow, heavily optimize future console titles, what will they achieve? Full 1080p and ultra settings in, say, BF4? Great, but it's already achievable on not-so-expensive pc.

New consoles will most probably not sell as well as current-gen did. Less people will buy console games. How will it affect the industry? More PC-centric development? Creating artificial boundries, so that PC versions would not outclass console ones too much? Almost totally exlusive-based console market (bullshit from financial perspective, I know)? Uglier, simpler PC->console ports or console-> pc ports with slightly enhanced graphics? Or maybe the end of big graphical advancements?

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16:10. Not like they will get 4k.

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PC for sure.
There is nothing more convenient, than a modular system. I can upgrade every single component - anytime.

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Nintendo's Wii U has a weird controller-one no one really wanted, and isn't as innovative as it is cumbersome. Innovation kept them going last generation. This generation? They should be worried. Right now, the 3DS is carrying them, but that'll only go so far...

Microsoft messed up right at the beginning with this next generation, layering their console with tons of invasive DRM and trying to call it a feature. Pretty much everyone was pissed and, even though Microsoft backpedaled, their greed cost them dearly with the heaps of bad PR it garnered. Add to that the fact that their system is $100 more expensive, while not as powerful as Sony's PS4, and things aren't looking great.

Sony actually did pretty well early on. Once they saw the train-wreck the Xbox One reveal had become, they made sure to point out that the PS4 wouldn't have the same "features" as the Xbox One, which made a lot of folks pretty happy. As a more powerful system with better support and $100 less on the price tag, I think Sony's on top.
Some people are complaining that they'll be charging for PS+. I'd like to take a moment to point out that Microsoft has already been charging people for an Xbox Live Gold subscription (required to play games online) for years.

To the people who keep saying PC will win: PC always wins anyway. It's a given. It's such a solid platform that it's place in the game race hasn't been questioned in a long time, especially not after Steam started gaining, well, steam.

Oh, and for the record, I was an Xbox and PC fan this current generation. I've never ceased PC gaming, and I'm on my third 360. Microsoft's poor choices (and constant updates which remove features and make my 360 dashboard more and more ugly) swayed me away from them with the next generation though, and decided me firmly on buying a PS4 once there are actually a few next-gen titles I'm interested in.

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Broadwell.

1 decade ago
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NextGen = Computers turnig into consoles and consoles turning into computers

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none my pc is next gen fx-8320 and hd radeon 7870 ghz x2 crossfired cards and 16 gig of ram

1 decade ago
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This Dorkly comic seems kind of relevent to this thread. :p

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Closed 1 decade ago by IRISHGUN.