This initial view of the Borg placed them as too frightening, in spite of that being part of the actual goal of their creation.
The executives overseeing the Star Trek property after Gene Roddenberry did not want to keep the series on it's overly goody-goody path, they wanted to go someplace dark with the series, however, this rapid departure from where Roddenberry was leading the series ended up causing a little strain within the Star Trek fanbase - in short, the Trekkies didn't like people doing something Gene Roddenberry wouldn't have wanted.
They lightened the mood a little from how faceless and horrifying the initial Borg presence was presented, making them almost comically weak both intellectually and physically as a way of countering this - almost saying, "see? These guys are nothing the Federation can't handle." When in reality, if a techno-organic hybrid lifeform similar to the Borg ever arose, it's ruthless and persistent nature would quickly and easily wipe out such a disjointed and fragile system as the Federation.
The goal of weakening the Borg was to ease tensions, and it worked, some of the more militant fanboys gave the Next Generation another chance, and when the Borg were revisited, it was always in a position of weakness, to demonstrate the superiourity of the human side, with it's many voices, rather than admitting to the obvious truth that the singular hive-mind concept was the obvious pinnacle of where a species could go.
The hive mind would never treat any lifeforms it encountered differently, it's message would never waver, it would be persistent from the Alpha Quadrant to the Delta, it would be used in every language, always the same message, with equal lack of emotive punctuation or feeling. Cold, direct and persistent, the message would always be, "we are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile." Anything less is a sign of the Borg being less than the ruthless, single-minded super organism that they are introduced as.
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Enterprise displayed the Federations first encounter with the Borg. In this case, the Borg's greeting was direct, and to the point - As a machine / AI's race would be. In later series, the Borgs introduction was slightly longer to convey more description as to exactly what they were doing. This could be due to one of two reasons:
1.) As their first approach didn't work, they tried an alternate route - An AI wouldn't continue the same thing if it knew that the outcome was negative.
2.) After assimilating a few members of the Federation, the Borg realized the nature of the Federation, and of Humanity itself. Humans are a curious species (The Enterprises very mission is this - "To explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before."), and as such, require an explanation. The Borgs greeting changed to (In their opinion) explain their actions so that humans would be satisfied, and be more prone to follow the logical path (Hey - It probably woulda worked on a Vulcan ;D)
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You forget that these are 24th century Borg. They already know everything about the Federation.
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I hazard that change to the shorter phrase makes the Borg look ridiculous because it does not offer the chance to surrender. Given that the Borg have a fearsome reputation and a very distinct visual style, given a choice it is certainly possible that a potential target may surrender in which case no resources have been expended in attempting to capture or disable the ship - such an outcome is by far the most desirable one, and it makes no sense that no effort is made towards attaining that result given that the Borg are an intelligent people.
I've never watched Star Trek. Did I do okay?
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You actually did pretty alright for never having watched it.
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It makes the Borg look stupid because they can't even remember their own hail.
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Won't read through all the comments but you can't give away greed corp since it's currently part of the indie gala. You will have to wait until the gala is over.
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Arrg, there's two reasons whay this is a problem. See the borg have assumulated vulcans before ans as such thier phariseing "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futileÈ There's a direct flaw with the proosition. Thus the phrase is illogical,
The other fact is that the borg identify a singular.Oh yeah and it follows a borg saying the singular. I am. LOL. Or no? I don't know enterpise was kina fail. Scott Bacula soulda stayed in only the one sci-fi show quantim leap. Enterpize was kinda a f-u to th whole Star trek mythos.
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We are the Borg, the superior race, we will absorb everything that makes your people your people. We'll be the awesome Borg and you into one race. You'll become of no use but to serve us. Mhuhahaha!!!!!!
vs
we will kill you now.
It's like saying you're going down instead of “it’s time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I’m all out of gum”
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(In nerd voice) IT MAKES THEM LOOK STUPID BECAUSE CAPTAIN KIRK IS SUPERIOR TO JEAN LUKE PICARD!
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Gonna take a shot in the dark here as I'm rather unfamiliar with this and never watched the show.. this is what I got after reading up on the Borg a bit.
It's ridiculous that they changed what they said for a few reasons. The Borg are intent on assimilation with the ultimate goal of "perfection" in mind. In the original, they identify themselves as Borg, and offer the chance for surrender, while in the second they don't. It would make more sense for them to state who they are, and potentially sway others into being assimilated through their sheer power, appearance, and reputation. It would give other races a chance to maybe "see the light" of the Borg's vision. At the same time, the Borg AI is very intelligent but may have a hint of hubris in the form of a superiority complex. Allowing for surrender would make more sense since the Borg would think no one would dare oppose them.
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I already have this game, but I figured I'd add my 2 cents.
The first hail acknowledges that there are Borg and non-Borg, and that the non-Borg might be useful (in new technological innovations, besides warm bodies). But non-Borg are clearly more useful as part of the Borg. The shorter hail does not acknowledge that there are non-Borg. They are simply hailing "errant drones". You are not distinct, you are not useful. You will simply (re)enter the Collective, as you "should".
The Borg can reproduce, to a fashion, but they cannot really innovate. Logically, they should know this. It's part of their longer hail, after all.
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(I'm not in a nerdy mood right now, and also not particularly interested in Greed Corps, but I know why it sounds funny in Czech. :-) In the Czech dubbing, this "you will be assimilated" is translated as "budete asimilováni". If you add one space, you get "budete asi milováni", which means "you will be probably loved".)
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Well, the Federation is opposed to snuggles, so they're still mortal enemies.
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Okay, I'm not sure if I'm interpreting the clue correctly but this is what I found from it:
On an episode of Star Trek: Voyager, they find a Borg cube which seems to be giving Seven multiple personalities. Turns out that the cube has a virus in it that it must have gotten from the last assimilation done by it, which was purposefully engineered by another alien race to destroy the Borg. Since the virus gave Seven multiple personalities, it's possible it would have the same effect on the Borg, and the new greeting is done by an "infected" Borg carrying this virus, with the change in greeting due to the virus and no actual change of their own accord?
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It sounds stupid because the whole point of the introduction is lost. The point being that it's their reputation that convinces others to surrender. They are the Borg. They are superior to all other beings. They cannot be stopped. And everyone knows it. Therefore, the only logical course of action is to surrender. But if they do not introduce themselves as the Borg, the hail becomes meaningless. Just a threat, rather than the inevitability it is meant to convey.
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Don't bother trying. Choosing a winner now. Thanks for the bump though. I'd completely lost this thread.
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Inquiring minds will have to wait until I've had some sleep. No-one's gotten the exact answer yet, but I can't be bothered waiting for anyone else, so I'm trying to pick the closest of the answers. Hard to do that on as little sleep as I've had though.
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You. Decided that any other hints would just spell the answer out for you, so I went for the person who got the closest first. That was you, and MalekTaktak filled in part of the rest, so I'll see if I can get him a key for something or other as well.
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We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
The Borg. The ultimate expression of both capitalism and communism. Unrelenting, vicious, unstoppable, strip-mining entire worlds of their populations and resources with a single mind and a single goal. And therefore our mascots for Greed Corp., a game where people destroy the planet to get resources (that they're destroying).
So, to win a copy of the game, answer me this. The above quote is the Borg's standard hail. In "Regeneration", however, the one episode of Star Trek: Enterprise the Borg appeared in, their hail was simply "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." This change makes no sense and, while continunity is maintained, it comes only at the cost of making the Borg look ridiculous. Why does that change make the Borg sound stupid?
The best nerd answer (or the exact one I'm looking for) wins the key. In 24 hours, a clue will be posted to send you a little closer in the right direction. 24 hours after that, I'll make the clue even easier.
Clue: Search for Chuck in the field of debris that spans many galaxies.
Winner: SrgColman and MalekTaktak, for getting the closest answers first.
Answer (there's also a video if this is tl;dr (skip to 8:49, but Chuck is awesome and funny and smart and you really should watch this show)):
"The Borg then send the following transmission in its entirety: "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." That's the point where I call foul. Yeah, I've heard the excuses, but I don't buy any of them:
1) The Borg were instructed not to identify themselves in the past. So why say anything then?
2) The Borg never identified themselves in Q who or Best of Both Worlds. Right, but their statements were also given substance in those episodes.
See, the reason the phrase is what it is is because of the Borg's nature: they do not recognize the illogic of resisting them. When they first met the Enterprise, all they stated was that they knew the Enterprise's defenses were incapable of stopping them, so they shouldn't resist. In the second, Picard as Locutus was serving to make clear that Borg victory was inevitable; if the head of the best the Federation could bring could be made into the Borg's voice, then his words have all the more meaning. Look back on his remarks, and there is a genuine puzzlement in their question to Worf: "Why do you resist us?" They cannot comprehend that anyone could engage in such clearly pointless behavior, that they would rather throw their lives away than join in the unity and marvel that the collective is. The Borg introduction from First Contact was: "We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile." To break this down, the Borg's first statement is to make it clear that defeat is the only possible outcome in the most clear and direct manner possible, by making it clear who they're dealing with. "We are the Borg, you've already lost." Then instructions on what to do, then an explanation of what awaits them. Finally, the Borg add "See point one: we are Borg, don't waste our time." When it became it's final form (which was used throughout Voyager), it was the same idea condensed: We Borg, that means you're toast, don't bother fighting. What this one does instead is take all that away and goes with the catch phrase - I could almost buy that, if they hadn't chopped out the first part. It's the crux of it all, it's their "I'm Rick James, bitch!" If you don't make it clear you're Rick James, nobodies gonna give a shit what meaningless comments come out of your mouth. "You and your friend are coming back to my place," doesn't go over well as an intro, you'll just get maced, trust me. People forget that the Borg think, and so they say things that are relevant. This is a conversation fragment; the Borg might as well have just said "Neaner-neaner-neaner! Gotcha!" It's a sign of just how bad it is when this announcement, rather than inducing dread or fear, leads to Archer's expression of puzzlement, as if the Borg had just spat netspeak at him."
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