Hello. Looking at upgrading my graphics card. Considering either MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 3GB or MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming X 4GB. Any suggestions?

Thanks

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Different brand (XFX, Gigabyte)

Your CPU? Depending on it, it might be better to get a Radeon Rx 470 with 8GB of VRAM.

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All the following cards are ordered by price:

  1. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36710/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-sc-gaming-3gb
    • cheapest one, 3GB of VRAM might be a bit tight with AAA games (and the 6GB versions are more powerful)
  2. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36373/sapphire-radeon-rx-470-nitro-8gb
  3. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36440/msi-radeon-rx-470-gaming-x-8gb
  4. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36317/xfx-radeon-rx-480-gtr-oc-8gb
    • the difference between the 470 and 480 is minimal, so you could just choose the cheaper
    • they all have 8 GB, but if you find it too much there're 4GB ones
  5. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36503/leadtek-geforce-gtx-1060-winfast-6gb
    • this is the cheapest GTX 1060 with 6GB, but I don't know that manufacturer
  6. https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36257/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-turbo-6gb
    • a 6GB GTX 1060 from a well-known manufacturer, but it's a reference version
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Is my CPU likely to affect me much?

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It's quite unlikely, as it's still a pretty powerful CPU, despite its age. However, it all depends on the games you play:

  • in games that are mostly CPU-heavy (usually poor console ports), you would be "CPU limited", thus not using a powerful GPU at its maximum;
  • in games that are properly coded to make better use of the GPU, there should be no bottlenecks (unless you have a weak GPU, of course).
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Im using a gtx 1070 with i5-4440 without any problems and bottleneck, so you wont have any problems with that cpu.

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3GB version is cut down but they forget to put different number like 1050 :)

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1060 is not technically way better, it comes down to what he plays and if he wants a more future proof card or not. although he should go for the 8gb version

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Next game I'm looking to play is Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, which recommends R9 390. Not after this game, but I'm getting this as I want Cod 4 remastered.

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black ops 3 pushes almost 8 gigs on my card so i suggest the rx for that since 4gigs will allow higher graphic settings. cod 4 will run on a toaster if they optimize it right though. id have to know other games to say more though

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Some games use up your full VRM to give you a slight performance boost and faster loading by caching stuff on the GPU.
If the VRM is a bit less, in most cases it doesn't affect the performance in any noticeable way.

That said, I am just generalizing here. No idea what black ops actually needs. Cant argue that more is better.

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The way better card producing 10-20% less frames per seconds on an actual released game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=056oMmGluVA

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Hitman is an outlier that performs poorly on Nvidia GPU. You shouldn't base purchasing decision on games that are outliers.
Its like Project Cars took a bit hit for AMD systems, but it would be wrong to use that and say that a specific GPU is not good enough.

Unless its the game you are interested in playing a lot, its best to ignore results that go against the majority of game benchmarks.

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it needs maybe 3 gigs the game looks really bad

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Yep, totally true, but Hitman can also showcase NVidia's real performance when the engine is not relying on their GameWorks. In the end, nowadays it seems the only question about a GPU's real strength doesn't lie in its hardware or even the driver, but how much they are gimped artificially.

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Performance comparison RX 470 /480/ GTX 1060 6GB/3GB and older GPU - My type grab RX 480 8GB ;)
https://s4.postimg.io/3ulo7z5l9/Bez_tytu_u.jpg

I really do have some mixed feeling for the 3 GB model of the GTX 1060. The slightly lower shader count doesn't bother me, the 3 GB should be fine if you stick at 1080P or a lower resolution, and yet still I am leaning very much to advise and steer you towards a 6GB model. You might not even use up the 6GB but it sure as heck will make the product more future proof. The driver issue I ran into was weird, I still need to further investigate but was solved and sorted by using an older driver. While writing this I realize it might even have been the High DPC Latency issue that we have seen popping up more lately. Dunno, more info once available. The card as tested today sells for 219 USD + 20 bucks for this particular MSI GAMING X model, and that remains to be good value for money alright. You'll play your games up-to 1920x1080 perfectly fine and using proper image quality settings. Obviously that 3 GB framebuffer remains a bit of a discussion, again I would advise 6GB as I feel 4GB+ is the norm for proper mainstream gaming anno 2016. The card will tweak quite well, we however predict (once again) that any and all cards can achieve a stable ~2.1 GHz boost clock frequency. With the graphics memory you should be reaching 9 Gbps (effective data-rate) quite easily as well. Hey, for the bigger part Nvidia is in control of your tweak, not you. Still anno 2016 we have 120 Watt GPUs now passing the 2 GHz easily, and that is impressive at any level. MSI offers more value with the GTX 1060 3GB Gaming X. It is a lovely and well designed card with a proper silent cooler. If you can spot it for the right price, these cards can be little gems in the 1080P domain and offer good value in a cool looking yet silent package. But yes you might like it or not, I'll stick to what I stated. If you can spend the extra dough, go for that 6GB model.

Source: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-gaming-x-3gb-review,1.html

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I don't know why people are voting nvidia 3 gb (well, fanboy) but look for a second opinion... For your own good

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The 3 GB version is probably the most idiotic business decision I have seen in hardware for a good long while now. The only reason I can think of why it was released was to drive up the price of the 6 GB version. (Which, frankly, would fit NVidia's business style.)

Anyway, your question is more like between the GTX 1060 6 GB version and the RX 480 4 GB or 8 GB version.

The NVidia card will perform better in current games, as it is still essentially the same DX11 card NVidia has been selling in the past 5 years, with better specs. (Despite the new architecture.)
The AMD card will perform better in DX12/Vulkan games. Right now, those are incredible rare and run in DX11 mode as well comfortably.

If you buy for 1-2 years (maybe 1-3), buy the NVidia one.
If you want it to last longer, buy the AMD one.

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this guy gets it

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That's exactly what I think, but I guess that I'll upgrade anyway after 3y, so...
I guess I'll say farewell to my 760 and I'll buy a 1060 in next few months

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Both of them are overpriced. You can buy an 8GB RX 480 for the same price at that store, and an XFX 4GB for $349. Or you could buy an RX 470 for $289. On the NVIDIA side you can buy an EVGA 1060 3GB for $339 or a plain MSI one (not Gaming edition) for $349.

So why these particular overly expensive cards? Waste of money in my book.

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MSi graphics cards are the only ones I've had experience with, and I've not had any problem so far.

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I've had experience with a lot of cards without problem. If there are problems, it's normally the particular model more than the brand.

In any case, the MSI GeForce GTX 1060 OC 3GB is MSI, and at a more reasonable price. I'm not sure if there's any difference between them except for a slight overclock.

I'd say: if you're buying this card for a few years, buy something with more RAM (as others have said). If you're buying short term (year or two), buy the least expensive card that gives you decent performance in the games you want to play now.

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Okay. I may end up spending a bit more and going for the RX 480 8gb. 3+ years useful like sounds ideal.

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GeForce vs Radeon??
Not this again

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Just for the sake of Vulkan and DX12, AMD cards win by miles. And with Polaris (480) being as good as tessellation like NVidia cards, there really isn't any reason to pick a more expensive, but worse performing 1060 over a 480. I will however say you should only ever get the 8GB 480, as games now, even in 1080 can already use much more than 4GB. Ultra textures in Rise of the Tomb Raider, Deus Ex Mankind Divided and Mirrors Edge Catalyst already requires more than 4GB.

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I didn't realise games were using that much V Ram.

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Its not enough for incoming games

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Which are you referring to?

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It would be rather wait for the next generation (nvidia volta / amd vega)
current one doesn't have any obvious advantage

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Big question: do you already have a GSync/FreeSync monitor? If you do then that determines which GPU brand you'd be better off with.

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I don't believe my monitor features either of those.

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I'd personally go with AMD (FreeSync), because it's an open standard and about $100-$150 less than GSync.

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Dont even consider the 3GB version of the GTX1060 is capped in more ways than just memory, the RX480 is the better option of all of those, because of its better DX12 implementation and support, benchmarks of Mankind Divided DX12, even the RX470 beats the GTX1060 on DX12 and thats the 6GB GTX1060, which is quiet a bit faster than the 3GB version.

btw that MSI cooler is really quiet apparently, it is the quietest RX480.

PS: AMD has launched 2 drivers already that boost the RX400 series performance so most reivews are outdated, and even new ones might be aswell, for some reason most reviewers dont redo benchmarks on already reviewed cards, guess cant blame them, its not like running benchmarks is their job :v, latest one are the Crimson 16.9.1 launched last week.

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I say go with the 480 or 470. Its way cheaper and just as good. Although preferably the 470 because it came out after all three and so I would imagine its probably more stable.

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Get the 480. You won't run out of memory so fast. And better DX12/Vulkan support will probalby mean that it suffers less performance hit in the future than the Nvidia.
If heat and electricity use is important for you than the Nvidia.

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I'm also looking to upgrade my GPU, Both the rx 480 8gb and the gtx 1060 6gb are at the same price here so I can't decide which one is the better option :/

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What brand are you considering?

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MSI Gaming X

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Same answer for you as well: if you plan to replace it in 2, amybe 3 years, get the NVidia card, otherwise—if it needs to work for a longer time—get the AMD one.

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When I was an AMD fan back in the day, XFX was my brand of choice, I still use XFX power supplies to this day.

For the price though, you'd be better going with a 6GB 1060.

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If we exclude the issue of nominal efficiency, 3-4 GB cards are not enough for the big games 2015-2016 years, therefore it is better to take the card with 6-8 GB. This amount is required to put textures in the game at a high value.

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IF its a 1060 of 3GB i would go to the 480( in same things is worse than the 1060 but it has 4GB)

Would better go to 1060 6GB

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XFX and Gigabyte arent different brands.... they just produce ATi or Nvidia cards...

Really the only different brand is Matrox that produce workstation graphics cards but those are not suitable for gaming.

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i have just received my rx 470 8gb and i'm quite satisfied. i wouldn't buy a 4gb card nowadays.

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