Instead of a thanks, rate the cheesy hilarity of the US government launching a nuke at New York within seconds of aliens appearing in "The Avengers". Is nuclear warfare really their first choice before the aliens have even really attacked?
On a scale of 1-10, I rate that cheese factor at least a 20. Beyond fucking ludicrous.
Thanks for the chance!
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looool that was fun man! xD
20
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thanks a lot
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Haven't seen Avengers so will have to just say thank you.
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Oh, damn. I don't remember much of that movie, so I can't really rate it :/
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The way I see it is that the governement knew these aliens were not friendly - since S.H.I.E.L.D knew it - and if there are attacking aliens:
Why not sacrifice a town for the sake of preventing a long war?
I do not approve or recommend such a reaction, but since there was never such a comparable situation it is all just guessing and a nuclear missile is at least a strong first reaction to show your power.
In conclusion:
If they fear that otherwise a long invasion/an eradication of humanity could come out of it (what is obviously the case here as I understood it with all the aliens waiting behind that portal)... I would say <1>.
If they have no idea whatsover... <10+>
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Thats just the thing, they knew they aren't friendly but they had no frame of reference for how big of a threat the aliens were or were not, the aliens are like "OHAI WE'RE HERE!" and the government is like "SHIT SHIT SHITSHITSHITFIRETHENUKES!". In Independence Day, a movie that was entertaining for its time but had hokey writing at best still showed it was their last resort. And they aren't sacrificing a "town" they are nuking the single most famous and highly populated city in the USA. The writing was sloppy as fuck in Avengers because Joss Whedon is the creator of Buffy the fucking Vampire slayer. He had a following of devout fans, now he has 30 million Avengers fans who will gladly eat the corn right out of his shit for him and tell him "It was deeeelicious!!" there's no justifying that nuke, it was for the sake of drama and was hilariously bad. It was Indiana Jones in a fridge surviving a nuke bad.
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Gratitude for the chance.
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Gonna just say thanks since i haven't seen the movie.
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thanks!
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US just have to many nuclear missiles untested on ground. In Resident Evil movies, the government tries to wipe out the bio-hazard by nuke attack, in Aliens vs. Predator 2 movie, the general(if my memory is correct.) decides to gather the remaining people to one spot to attract all aliens and predator within the nuclear bomb radius and then nuke them all. I am not a military guy so I don't know to what level, government could prepare launching nuke. But what I am sure is that, in many sci-fi movies, if they cannot control the situation or eliminate the threat, they would use nuclear weapon, that happens very often in movies. I remember, when I first watched a movie ending with a nuclear attack, I thought so much about humanity, culture, and the environment because as I think, the movie is the expression of directors. They want to express something or tell the audiences something through the their movies. But later, I just saw the nuclear scenes in movies over and over again. Then I get used to it. Don't think too much about the humanity and something like that, just stick to the movie, the plot, and the scene. That's all about this genre. I rate it 5/10 just because I get used to it...
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lol yes, in Resident Evil and AvP it was a small TOWN they nuked, and it was after they knew for a fact if what is in there gets out, the whole world is in for a healthy dose of apocalypse. Avengers the aliens had yet to show any true threat, and they weren't nuking a town to take care of it, they were nuking the city of Manhattan. 11 million people at any given time. Slight difference between that and a population of like 100,000 who are already beyond doomed from the Xenomorphs (Alien's actual name) or the zombies of RE. This nuke was fired for one reason, hokey dramatic situation to show what a team player Iron Man is capable of being. Its like how Batman takes the blame for Harvey Dent's crimes so that the Joker doesn't win. At least it FIT there, Batman is all about being the pinnacle of morality, but why not just blame it on the Joker? Why don't the villains scared of Batman at night just commit crimes during the fucking day? Avengers nuke was just god awful lazy writing.
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Wrong point of view. That is a fictional universe in which the world is run by a secret underground government (they ran the whole world, not just the US). You need more knowledge of the Ultimate Marvel Universe! Have at thee!
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You can't just throw in stuff from the comics to explain the movies. The movies are not the comics, they are adaptations. That is excusing shitty writing. If the information isn't IN the movie, its not part of the story of the movie. The story in the movie of the Incredible Hulk was that he had learned to control it, that was the whole reason for the ending scene of Banner smiling as his eyes go green; they showed that he now had control over it, and they specifically had done that as a lead-in to The Avengers (hence the cameo from Tony Stark). Joss comes on board, realizes he's a piece of shit writer (or are you going to defend his writing, Alien 4, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, need I go on?) so throws out the continuity between the Hulk movie and this one. Oh you learned to control it? Nah, you're pants-shitting-terrified of transforming because you're scared you may hurt someone. I need no more knowledge of the comics, you need more knowledge of movies, that's all =)
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Meh, I was trying to be lighthearted about it. Guess it's my fault for trusting writing to deliver my intonation. But thanks for being an ass in your reply, even though you didn't have to be. The Incredible Hulk wasn't mean to be a tie-in to THIS Avengers movie, so it's all bullcrap. Right, so you don't like that he had to learn, in your eyes, to control it all over again. That's all? It's a movie based on comics, of course you need to know the comics as well in order to understand everything. You think people that don't read comics understood anything from that movie? Or if they haven't seen the other tie-in movies?
And anyway, even if all of the above wouldn't apply. What, you want every information to be spoon-fed to you in movies? Can't you figure out things on your own? Make sense of it? I mean, seriously, just like others here have said, if you know from solid sources that an alien race powerful beyond measure is attacking you, and there is no way (because the super-heroes were something new, they couldn't be trusted with the fate of the whole planet!) to stop them besides sacrificing a city, what would you have done? And you can't just throw away the fact that this is a fictional Universe just because it fits your rants. If they wanted to make it so they danced in the middle of the city in yellow tights and try and scare the aliens away, they can do it, because it's not trying to be realistic. Not at all.
Anyway, like I said. It is my mistake for making my comment sound condescending and all that. Sounding like I'm trying to argue with you. I wasn't. And with this, I might have turned everything from a discussion to a fight, and if so, I would like not to continue, unless you think we can both cool down, mkay? (it's pretty obvious you're gonna hate the movie anyway, seeing your vendetta against the writer is set in stone)
TL;DR - Well... I don't know how else to summarize what I've said, so try and read it all. Or don't. Doesn't matter that much anyway.
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Thank you!
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Thanks. And about a 9.
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Thanks!
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I havn't seen it but god damn that sounds retarded =P
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The government made an assessment, feared it would not win a drawn out war against an unknown force of unknown strength, size, technology, and origin and thus used the strongest weapon at their disposal with the hope of PREVENTING an invasion and keeping the aliens from gaining a foothold in our world in the first freaking place. Though Hollywood-ified for drama it's based on existing emergency doctrine and was overall a fairly smart move.
It may have been that we could have won through traditional warfare, it might have been that they conquered earth in a day. We don't know, but neither did they, and the cost of a city, no matter how populated, is literally pennies in the military perspective of preventing a potential threat to the entire world. Even if we could have won a normal war it's highly possible less lives and resources would have been spent through the use of a single nuke and the loss of a single city.
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