CSGO OR Counter strike 2? CSGO wasnt this bad when released back in 2012.

I am playing Cs2 since the beta and never had a crash or freeze. I recognize that the game have some bugs but its not game braker. I think Cs2 its in the right way, just need some more updates.

i wasn't playing csgo when it was released but i believe it was also sucks. I saw some videos on yt that discuss this, they also mentioned some pro thoughts on how csgo was sucks when it was released.

I prefer CS2 in every way, except the BSODs I'm getting. I've put the game on pause until this problem is patched out.

CS2 is better if you look ahead. :)
Clearly it has his fair share of bugs and everything with the bullet targeting and arriving, tick / subtick , peaker advantage bullshit, excluding all the standard errors people like you say, crash / freeze / BSOD, etc.
Hopefully it will get better soon! :)
Latest one that got more traction <- twitter link

cs2 looks better + give this game time. maybe 3 month from relis? and then we can talk.

The problem with CS2 is that it is rushed, they should not had removed CSGO this soon, because CS2 is nowhere near finished, it is totally unoptimized (and I have a pretty high-end PC, but still it`s lagging/stuttering every few seconds, no matter what settings are set lowest or highest, plays the same), and it is missing so many game-modes, like cmon, you force us to move away from CSGO into CS2, and give us only few game-modes, lol it is even missing a team-deathmatch.

CS2 will undoubtedly be a great game, but they rushed it, and they should have given us choice to go back to CSGO until they properly finish CS2, and obviously bring in proper Anti-Cheat into it, since people still are able to kill you with unbelievable precision and from impossible places.

If you played since 2001, you would've experienced 1.3 and 1.4 as well. It wasn't really until 1.5 that the game was in a decent shape.

CZ was the worst thing CS community ever had to witness.

Source sucks. But that's debatable, cause I'm a 1.6 kinda guy 😎

GO was shit in its early stages. CS2's release is already better than that.

Preferred CSGO but I mean Go had a decade of updates. With a MP game it's always a work in progress,so I'd just take a break before major updates start rolling in cause right now yeah it's inferior to what we had before.

I think CS2 is the best version of CS since 1.6. Looks great, plays great. The inclusion of voxel smokes makes the game feel slightly less rigid and more dynamic... which to me, is a good thing.

For me, it also runs fantastic (no microstutter or anything) and I've had zero crashes in countless hours of play. It's a shame it's happening for so many people though, they have to get that sorted. The only two issues I have is that the netcode is at times... strange. Things like dying well in cover, or even getting headshots that I wouldn't ever had thought was a headshot. Those things didn't ever really happen in CSGO. Thankfully, it's not the norm and just happens occasionally. Hopefully something that can get sorted over time.

The other issue is Russians. I live in Northern Europe, and that means that we matchmake with pretty much exclusively with Russians. The problem with that is that most of them don't speak English, so communication is pretty much out of the question. And when there's 3-4 Russians on the team every match, they just end up speaking with each other. This isn't a new problem though, CSGO had the same thing... and it would solved instantly if Vavle just gave them their own server - but they didn't do that in the 11 years prior, so I doubt they'll start now.

I tried a community HS only server vs an official deathmatch server. The performance on the official server was very bad; it was like I was playing at 30 fps although I had 125. On the community server, I had the same fps but the game was very fluid and it felt very responsive. The community server had blood disabled, so I'm thinking this is the reason behind the stuttery feeling.
That, and the issue of dying after already hiding (and the amplified peeker's advatange). They need to tweak the client damage negotiation and the timings.

I didn't notice anything different in the gameplay, but I don't like the graphics of CS2. I was kind of expecting something better for a 2023 game. That said, shouldn't be playing on max settings anyway. Also it's missing some of the good maps.

around 2019 there was a shader bullshit update to csgo that made the game unplayable and laggy AF
can't say it's any different now, i have higher framerate but with heavy stutters and lag spikes

It looks better, runs better and the hitreg is better so already better than CSGO for me only thing that really is still bad is the movement

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Do you remember CS:GO release? Because some time after the release i got it for 3.75€ 30 Nov 2013... It had that price because even after beeing released for one year everyone was stillon CS: Source...
Check how things went and ask yourself the same question.

Played 20+ games at this point and today 3 players DC'ed and were unable to reconnect to the game. I personally didn't experience any of crashes.

I personally haven't had any crashes with CS2 (In fact I actually had more crashes with GO over the years). But I can say CS2 feels different.

I feel like it's primarily due to their new tickrate system, the 'sub-tick' system.

There's been several times now in the matches I've played where I'd be peeking, then I'd duck behind cover and still get headhot, while already behind cover. However from the kill-feed the headshot wasn't through something. So it seems like on someone else's screen, I was still not behind cover?

While yes it could be ping and just general networking, I never had this experience in GO.

I played the beta version and was already shocked by how bad this game was. But since it was only the beta version, I thought they would work a lot longer on it since it felt unplayable. My performance was fine, no crashes/bugs, no low fps. The game itself was unplayable with the hitreg partly non existing, terrible sound, weird movement and so on. Wouldn't have expected them to to release it like this.

Yes, there were updates and those updates made it a lot better. But it is still not a great game at all. I wish they would have worked a bit more on it before forcing it on everyone and making it "official".

I'm surprised that so many players enjoy the new CS2 this much. It is my personal opinion but it's quite "bad player friendly" and I try to say it as friendly as I can: It is usually lower ranked people or the "not so good" CS players who enjoy this new CS2 the most. And I can not blame them. They hit shots, that would never hit you on CSGO. And the other way around.

I had a few kills where I barely looked at my enemy and still hit a random headshot but on the other hand, someone standing with his back towards me was suddenly unkillable and not a single bullet was registered. Or simple sprays with the crosshair in the middle of the model but apparently only 1 bullet hit. Magic.

Sadly, the current CS has nothing to do with skill anymore. Just hold w, spam mouse1 and kill everything somehow.

Not sure if YouTube links are allowed, but this video is pretty much my personal experience in this game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et81luuV2Ns

For me, def CSGO-beta was worse, I had some issues with CS2 during beta, but now I dont have huge problems, I don't like spraying with AK in CS2 and AWP, I did adjust to other guns, movement was worse for me in beta, now after few patches I don't have issues, audio was improved with new autdio options, Im using crisp and l/r to 50% and that helps a lot, fps also improved for my pc.

Issues I hoping to be fixed next are rubberbanding at spawns, server lag that happens from time to time, desync that happens from time to time and makes it look like you died behind wall, bad dm fps as the game goes on, spraying, especially AK, tracers and then some not so improtant things like left hand shooting, bob cfg commnads and more modes and workshop maps..etc.

But still even with all these issues, CSGO was just bad game at start, CS2 is just bugged and yes worse than CSGO at this moment, but in my opinion not worse than CSGO-beta, especially if server is not laggy, then I can still enjoy CS2 games, I know thats not case for everyone and that some players have more issues, especially with game performance that I don't have.

1.6 :)

The game is fun to play and it feels way better than cs go but the crashes are something else is annoying even after I restart the game there are times when im joining the game after the first crash it crashes again in loading screen the game is not close to being ready and it should have stayed in beta for longer for at least 1-2 months

This is an ongoing debate if something new comes around the corner. everyone hates it and then people get used to it and it turns out to be good at the end. of course it will have bugs and glitches at the beginning but that should be fixed in the future. i bet cs:go wasnt liked either when it came out.

Ah come on now, Source shipped with default settings that had the hitboxes miles behind the character when they moved. CS2 isn't nearly the shitshow that was.

POLL stuck at 50/50.

Time to close the Topic Thanks everyone for voting and presenting your point of view. Final vote 50/50%