Which would you recommend?
Sorry if this is out of your price range, but I can't recommend Logitech G710+ enough. Been using it the last 10 years (so if you keep that in mind, 150-200 euro is not even that expensive, it has been 15-20 euro a year then). It has cherry brown switches, buttons have nice firm feedback, it has no LED bullshit, it has macro support. Maybe one thing some might consider a negative - it's huge
oh, it also has media controls and dedicated volume wheel, like Hama
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Oh wow.. the G710+ :)
I have to say it's freakin awesome you menitoned this keyboard. It's one of the first mechanical keyboards I used and it honestly is an amazing keyboard. It's definitely built to last and it's definitely huge. lol
I have mine stored away with other keyboards, but it still works perfectly.
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Yeah from experience leds used to crap out on me eventually on logitech keyboards, replaced 2 under warranty (and still have one).
But that might also be that even cleaning them with something even a touch wet will make that happen, i just wear gloves (sweaty hands) while playing and so far so good (knocking on wood).
When a led goes out the keys become totally black which makes it impossible to read them, if i had a choice i would have gone for one without leds, but they hardly give you a choice anymore, but for the rest the G815 is a good one.
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Oh, i wouldn't actually know that, i hate any kind of light on a keyboard, so i turned them off right away. Being a "blindtyper" never felt the need to look at the keys
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I've been really happy with mine but it bugs me to no end that Logitech won't support it in G Hub. I hate having to keep LGS loaded for this one thing.
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I've got a G815, too, and I really like it... but why on Earth did Logitech NOT backlight the secondary labels on the keys? (e.g. !@#$%^&*() on the number row). I'd rather either have an unlit keyboard with clear labels or a lit keyboard where everything is lit.
That's really my only complaint with this otherwise excellent mechanical Logitech keyboard, though!
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I have not even noticed that until you said it, and oddly the number 5 has an euro sign next to it.
But yeah if i had to use such symbol it's always a hassle to find the right number.
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Yeah, its considerably more expensive than what I had in mind so I likely wont choose this (looking it up its seemingly not even sold in my country ATM) , but it does sound like a good choice otherwise. I appreciate your feedback, thank you! :)
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I don't have any experience about mechanical keyboards, because I use cheap keyboards, but the Hama one looks better then the Redragon Kumara.
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Me too, partly thats why I decided to shake things up a little. My keyboards were on the cheap end so far and I am curious to see how big of a difference it makes.
So by looks you like the Hama one? Thats as valid an opinion as any other, thanks for the feedback! :)
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Go to Best Buy or Wal-Mart or whatever play around with the display models to determine with type of switch feels best for you before making any decisions. How it feels should be the first priority in narrowing down your choices.
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Thanks for the advice, I agree, feeling is the most important factor ultimately.
However, I am pretty prone to sensory overload, especially after a few days of exhausting work, so I would try to avoid purposefully loud clicking keyboards, like those that have blue switches.
I did try some at a local store with the display models on the shelves, people did that by the dozens, to the annoyment of the staff. So I tried to just run through them and finish fast.
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This sounds like an idea thrown in during an indie gamedev brainstorming session, I might even attempt to think of something. :D
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Oh wait, this is an actual keyboard model. XD Sorry, only now I realized. I am so dumb...
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https://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate/ ;)
Look like a ninja while typing on this. :D
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I'm not sure if you are looking for wireless or wired, but I've tried out a lot of mechanical keyboards and own a decent amount. Logitech and Razer are definitely my first two choices when it comes to them.
In that price range you mentioned something like a Logitech G610 or maybe one of the many Razer Huntsman or Blackwidow keyboards would be ideal.
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I am looking for wired specifically. Thank you for your recommendations!
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Corsair K95 Platinum Here. Above your range but the one thing I want to point out is the extra macro keys. Having an extra row of keys down the left side that I can assign to various things is great. This ability is something to keep in mind when looking at keyboards. I will never buy another keyboard without these macro keys.
The first keyboard you link to has this but across the top. Nor do they look like normal keys. I would find that hard to use. You want them in easy reach.
I can have different macros active depending on what program is active. That alone is great, is built in and requires no scripting.. I went a step further and have a master key that calls a script that does any number of things depending on whats on the screen. As in not what program is active, but what its currently doing. This is mostly work related.
The one flaw in my keyboard is that sometimes the macro keys stop working while the rest of the keyboard is fine. I have no idea why. When that happens I just restart the keyboard app (used to set macros) and close it. Everything then works again.
Edit to add.
I used to have Razer as well with the same macro keys. It was also a great keyboard. I wore it out after years of use.
Edit 2.
Used to own an oirg IBM model M. No extra keys but wonderful mechanical feel. Loved that thing for years as well. :)
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It does sound practical for certain tasks, especially for programming and the like I imagine. I do plan to dip my toes into it sooner than later, but until these macro functions are not vital for me, then I belive a significantly cheaper keyboard would serve me well for quite some time.
Thank you for your advice and recommendtions, its nice to hear such additional viewpoints that I did not even think of before, worth considering. :)
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I'm using a Cherry G80-3000LPCEU-2 which someone described as the TIMEX of mechanical keyboards with a ROLEX movement. I pimped it a little bit with doubleshot keycaps. Cost for the keyboard 5 Euros(used) and 12 Euros for the keycaps.
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Looks nice! :) Though the body itself seems a little unnecessarily large with that upper extension. Does it serve any purpose or its just a design element housing something vital?
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As the keyboard is manufactured since the early 2000's my guess is they're just using the same mold for the casing. At that time this size was standard. Mine is from 2014 and manufactured in the Czech republic for the US market according to the serial number. I was rather astonished to see the exact same model sold for over 100 Euro new.
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Akko or same mnf group for high profile
Never buy branded KBs.
For low profile : keychron or nuphy
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I am sorry, I am unsure of what you speak of. You mean I should rather get these DIY keyboard parts and do a custom one?
I would prefer high profile, I had a low profile KB once, never reall got used to it as it always felt uncomfortable.
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epomaker
akkogear
keychron
google it
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FL ESPORTS
Dont buy Razer Corsair Logi etc
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Thanks anyway! How would you describe Ducky keyboards? Good and long lasting maybe?
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In my opinion yes. But like a year or two ago I accidentally poured some coffee on my old keyboard and 4 of the leds became a different color permanently. A few weeks ago the leds started blinking so I tried to "clean" the micro usb cable with tweezers while it was plugged in. Some smoke came out :D So that one broke and I had to get a new one, Ducky again ofc.
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I have a Corsair K95 Platinum which has nice extra features and more RGB than I honestly care about. The dedicated macro and media keys are nice and so is the attachable palm rest. I also have a Filco Majestouch Ninja, which is amazing. It doesn't have extra bells and whistles, but it feels great to type on and is super durable and will probably last me forever. Those are only technically made for sale in Japan, so I had to buy it from an importer. Anyway, both of those keyboard are roughly twice as much as you want to spend.
If I needed something in your price range, I would probably go for something like one of these:
Cherry MX 2.0S https://a.co/d/6imoqCK
Logitech K845ch https://a.co/d/1aAYy98
One suggestion I have is to get a keyboard with MX Cherry switches (my Corsair has MX Brown and my Filco has MX Blue switches). They are the gold standard, and all other mechanical switches are basically attempting to copy them. If a keyboard uses MX Cherry switches, then you also know that they aren't using some fake-mechanical setup like some companies have done (even logitech - Linus Tech Tips just posted a video on it the other day). Those two keyboards might still be a little more than you wanted to spend, but I think they would be worth it.
Both the Hama and Redragon keyboards you are looking at use Outemu switches which are MX Cherry "knock-offs." They are generally fine, and similar enough for most people, but they are slightly less durable and supposedly a little more "wobbly" according to reviews online.
Good luck, I hope you find something you like!
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Thank you for the useful info and recommendations! As someone who is new to all this mechanical keyboard topic, it helps a lot to see a few detailed perspectives such as yours on the matter! :)
My options are a bit limited as some of the recommended keyboards are not even available here in Hungary (in retrospect, maybe I should have mentioned this in my original description, though the availabilty of each model is often tricky to confirm in individual EU countries) but I am starting to slowly develop a better grasp of the situation.
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I took a look at your options in Hungary, and it is hard to find good keyboards for a good price. Things are more expensive and your options are more limited. For what it's worth, these are the best value options I could find:
https://www.alza.hu/corsair-k60-pro-red-led-us-d7598544.htm
https://www.alza.hu/logitech-g413-se-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-black-us-intl-d6944845.htm
https://www.alza.hu/logitech-g413-carbon-us-d4848862.htm
I looked on Amazon first, but the 27% VAT raised all of your prices way too much.
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Just order both and test them, that's what I did the last time I couldn't make up my mind. And I ended up liking the cheapest keyboard the most, of the four candidates.
I'd probably favor the Kumara, I like having dedicated media keys on my keyboard. Makes it easy to control the Sonos speakers around the house.
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Thats an idea that never crossed my mind. I am aware of the two week payback warranty, but would not hav ethougjt of trying out both and sending back the one that I like less. Maybe I will just do that, thanks!
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Use to go with Logitech devices because of their support, last time dealing with Logitech warranty, it took multiple attempts and a couple hours.
My current keyboard has Outemu switches, havent had any issues yet. Solid.Fit my price range.
My only concern is the noise level in store, they didnt sound loud. Got home, in a quiet room they sounded 2X louder.
Recommend going into a store for feel and sound.
If you're near people sleeping, or spend time on the phone talking and dont want them to hear you typing. Take that into consideration of loudness.
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Thats a good point, I will take it into account, thank you for your answer!
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You know kumara means sweet potato, right? I don't think I'd use a potato as my keyboard, hehe...
On a serious note, if this is going to be your main keyboard, then I highly recommend NOT going with a tiny keyboard, they're not so comfortable for long stints as there is no palmrest.
I have a 60% keyboard (wireless) for travel/portability, with red switches, and another TKL, wired, keyboard for longer stints of gaming or typing.
They're both Coolermaster ones, and I love them. The little one isn't as good for typing though, as it's low profile.
If you don't use or need the numpad, then definitely go with a TKL instead.
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Yeah, I rarely use the numpad so I think a TKL could work out just fine, but going down to 60% would absolutely feel weird.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
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I have tried Kumara and didn't like it, in my country it was avaliable with Blue Switches only and i am not a fan of TKL. So i got me Redragon Devajaras K556, got both Brown Switches and Numpad :D Been using it for 2 years without any problems and there were days i spent 10+ hours on it without getting tired. Also i like that it is Hotswapable, so i ordered some silent tactalie switches that i just received few days ago, but hadn\t tried them yet...
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I've been eyeing that one too, on first glance they seem to be of roughly the same quality but asked myself if the numpad is really that important to me that I would pay that little plus for it. Its not a big price increase though and reading that you had good experience with it, it certainly sounds like a firm choice too.
Thanks for sharing! :)
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I like the build quality of Devajaras, it has sturdy metal frame and it is heavy enough that you can't slide it around by accident in heat of playing :D
Also one more thing came to mind, since you live in EU and as far as i know there are Laws for return goods(we here in Serbia copied one of those :D) and when buying online you can return things back without reason. So maybe you should check how those things work over there if needed... :)
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Don't have experience with either of those keyboards you picked but I've heard of ReDragon. From what I've read it's a decent budget brand. I'll tell you what I don't like about my mechanical keyboard (Roccat Ryos MK).
If you're used to putting your fingers on the home keys without looking at the keyboard then don't buy a keyboard that has macro keys on the left side of the keyboard. It will screw up your ability to do that. At least it did for me. That's what I immediately noticed when I first used this keyboard.
No dedicated volume buttons/keys. If you're used to them and the new keyboard doesn't have them you'll miss it. My keyboard doesn't have them but there were 3 buttons on the bottom that can be configured for anything so I used them as volume and mute buttons.
Size of the keys. I assumed all keyboards used a standard width/height size for the keys but it seems like the manufacturer can make them as big or small as they want. My last keyboard felt like it had noticeably wider keys than this one. I make way more typing mistakes on my current keyboard than my old one. If you can test out the keyboard you want before buying I would highly recommend you do that.
Too many different switches. At the time I thought all mechanical keyboards would have that loud clicky sound you get from blue switches but mine didn't. My keyboard came with Cherry Mx brown switches and they're fairly quiet by comparison. I was disappointed. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise though because I might have gotten annoyed with the loud clicking over time. Having to research how all the different switches will sound before buying a keyboard is another inconvenience.
I actually hate my mechanical keyboard because of all the things I listed. I much prefer my old Microsoft membrane keyboard to this believe it or not.
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I see, thanks for letting me know all this! To each their own I guess, most of the features you describe sounds rather practical to me ,but its understandable if those dont fit your needs.
I have used keyboards so far that have additional functions through the FN key (FN+F1 is "mute" and so on) and I do like that, but the volume control seems even more comfortable of an option.
i currently have a Hama membrane keyboard that is starting to show its age, some buttons broke, sometimes its not responsive and besides I will need another keyboard anyway if I ever get a new config, as the current one will be my borther's or mother's.
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Yeah, Hama is crap. Stay away for your own good.
Besides that I'd say don't fall into the hype and blow money on a keyboard just because it's mechanical. It's just a gimmick that's oh so popular right now yet offers no real benefit for a huge price premium. You'd do yourself a favor by just picking a quality membrane board for like half that price and either putting the savings into some other component or simply saving it. Or heck, even buying yourself a new game to enjoy on a new PC...
Now if you really really really MUST have a mechanical keyboard, just try and borrow one from a friend for a month or so, you'll see that it's pointless. j/k now seriously going super budget like that is not the best option IMO so if you really must no, I won't stop emphasizing it since I firmly believe that it's a gimmick and most people don't need it have a mechanical keyboard maybe consider saving that cash r/n, keep using what you're using (I assume you have a keyboard since you somehow wrote this :D ) and try saving up for some quality board from a reputable brand.
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don't fall into the hype and blow money on a keyboard just because it's mechanical.
+1 for this... Definitely should be something to think about. My mechanical keyboard just sits now in the corner as I got Logitech MX Keys Keyboard from work and I love it way more.
I did enjoy using it and I might pick up something better along the way. but usability wise .... yeah, membrane is perfectly good if its a good keyboard itself.
In the end I even like the laptops built in keyboard the most :D
But if OP is keen on mechanical - make sure you can change the switches if something goes bad (because some cheaper brands I think have nonremovable switches)... You will have to clean the switches if they start glitching on you as well as dust gets in them easily (it might prove difficult if you cant remove them). Overall in my experience it has been more of a hassle then worth :D Overall I would agree with Devirk - better to save up and get a reputable brand and model.
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I do try not to overdo it, but its good to be reminded of the rabbithole of spending progressively more. One has to regularly evaluate if its ultimately worth it or not.
You see, my prefrences are the opposite regarding laptop keyboards. I cant stand them. xD Also low profile buttons that barely stand out were like torture to my hands on the few occasions my old boards failed and I had to use a temporary low profile board. And as for dust and cleaning, I regularly clean my membrane KB too (especially with 3 cats in the house, one cant let KB and mousepad uncleaned for too long XD ) so i think this would not be a problem for me, especially with most mech KBs coming with included keycap puller.
Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it. While most here seem to be in favour of mech KBs, its good to read a variety of opinions, such as Yours and Devirk's! :)
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Overall I'm not against mechanical and I wouldn't mind getting something higher end myself. Maybe even Logitech MX mechanical KB as I like the membrane one from that line. But yeah - I know some people IRL who go crazy just from the idea of mech KB :D No reasoning for them why they want one, but simple hype :D So had to support Devirks point of view.
Either way good luck in your search ;) Seems you have good reasons for wanting to get mechanical.
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I've tried plenty of quality membrane keyboards and I'd never go back to them, especially when it comes to gaming. The two just feel so different to me, it's like night and day. There's plenty of great options to get good to great gaming mechanical keyboards for around the same price on sale as a top of the line membrane gaming keyboard, which are generally around $40 to $60.
Which mechanical keyboards have you owned or tried?
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I do appreciate your feedback and thank you for sharing it with me! I am excited to try out something new and I am aware that this could affect my judgement, so I understand your warning of not spending extra money pointlessly. But please, let me explain in a little more detail:
The whole notion of getting a new keyboard started with the idea to build a new PC. For that, I still need to collect money little by little, so the purchase of a keyboard for the new PC (the current PC and its peripherals will be passed down in the family) wont happen soon. Hopefully in the forseeable future, but certainly not in the near future (and since the writing of this topic, I've got a few other projects that will divert my little spare money soon, so there is that too xD )
But it may be necessary sooner than I would like, as my current Hama Membrane KB started to wear off. Its still functional most of the time, but some buttons are broken and sometimes the inputs dont go through. I am unsure how long it has left, but I have to account for the possibility of it giving in sooner than ideal.
As I started to look for possible replacement and a new KB for a new PC, I noticed the trend of mechanical keyboards and read about their supposed benefits.
I got curious, whats the buzz all about? I tried some mech KBs at a local shop, where various keyboards are on display. Mechanical keyboards felt nice, it felt like they had additional weight and a better feel overall. You know, a little more massive than what I am used to, but I liked that. It somehow feels more... "analogue"? And I mean this in a positive way. My overall impression of mechanics was favourable, if short.
I dislike the loud sound of the blue switch versions but as I leanred, brown and red switches are generally less loud so maybe those could work out.
One key factor in my decision is still missing though. As the display models were merely just on shelves, not plugged into a computer. Its to be xpected of course, but liek that I did not get feedback on how these mechanics affect the input responsiveness.
To my understanding, red switches are supposedly smooth and silent, but due to their linear nature, they are less responsive. They are generally aimed at gamers because of the fast input, but thats more for competetive gaming, which would not be the main purpose for me.
Brown switches on the other hand make certain that you feel when the actual button press is taking effect and they are relatively quiet. This seemed like the golden middleroad that may be the best option for my preferences. Only problem is I cant tell for certain until I get a chance to test them in action.
And as I seemingly have plenty of time until I get sufficient funds for this, I thought I would ask around here, as despite the subjective nature of the topic, I trust people's personal experiences more than online reviewers and official shop's marketing texts. People tend to share more practical points.
So that is the reason for why I even consider buying one. They do feel nice and entry to middle level mechanicals these days start at around the price point of good membrane KBs so I thought I would like to try something new. But I wanted to hear first hand accounts and a wide variety of experiences to get a better picture and understanding of the market.
Your last advice on saving up for a quality board is not a bad one ( its perfectly reasonable, many here expressed similar sentiments and I agree that an excellent product is worth every penny and may be longer lasting), but there is a limit I am comfortable spending on a PC and peripherals, given my financial situation. I also dont aim for the most expensive PC components, I am trying to make the best out of what I consider a decent medium budget. Consequently, I would divide this theoretical budget mostly in favour of performance harware (CPU and GPU), but If avoidable, I dont wish to settle with the bottomline of peripherals either. I think with my current plans, I am on track to an acceptable compromise between budget and quality. Not the best of both worlds, but as close to that as possible with the given restrictions
As mechanical keyboards are the most out of my expertise, this was one of the biggest questions for me.
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Been using an older? version (red lights only) of Redragon Kumara for years now and it's great.
Also my 1st mechanical keyboard. Of couse if you NEED a numpad, it won't be for you.
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Numpad is not a problem for me. Interesting to read that you've found Kumara as good as the general consesus claims it to be (if I understood you properly). Thanks for sharing! :)
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Are you looking to modify your keyboard in the long run? Or do you just want a reliable keyboard out of the box?
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I would say the latter, as I am currently not even cosnidering modification. Seems like too much of a hassle.
I am not ruling out the future possibility that it may pick my interest though. I tend to swing from one hobby to another, always trying new things, never settling at the same activities for too long.
But for now, I would be content with an out of box decent KB.
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I would recommend either Keychron or a Royal Kludge. They are better built and more value for money.
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Here are my two cents: Of the two you posted, I voted for the Exodus. My mechanical KB experience is limited, but I can pass along the lessons I have learned and hope they help.
First: Stay far away from anything that has a non-standard key layout. That means no Razer, Corsair, or other keyboards with non-standard bottom rows. If you are ever interested in replacing your keycaps, having non-standard bottom row keys makes your life extremely difficult and limited as far as finding keycap sets that will work with your KB. I own a Razer BlackWidow Elite, and while I am generally happy with the keyboard, it didn't take long before the keycaps started to shine, and I wanted to go looking for new keycaps. Ultimately, after much searching and a couple of keycaps sets later, I had to buy the Razer set(s) to guarantee compatibility, but choices are limited, and even these double-shot PBT caps have started to wear down and shine a bit.
Second: I absolutely love having a volume control knob on my KB to the point, that I will absolutely be looking for a KB with a volume knob/roller on my next KB.
The Hama uRage Exodus 900 has a volume roller and standard layout, so it fits the bill, but I don't see a lot of info/reviews on it. I have heard Redragon KBs can be pretty decent for budget mechanical KBs - the Redragon K580 is a reasonably priced full size model with a volume roller and may be worth considering as well.
Finally, FWIW, I think my next KB will be something along the lines of the Das Keyboard 4 Professional. Brown switches, which I also prefer, standard layout, volume knob. A bit expensive, but a solid reputation. I don't really care much for the RGB, and it's much less gamer-y looking.
Good luck with your purchase!
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I currently use a Redragon Kumara and I have to say it is a solid choice.
This is my first mechanical keyboard, before this, I've only used membrane ones.
The keyboard itself is really solid, it has quite the weight, in a gaming session you can be sure that it will stay still :D! I have the cheaper one (or I don't know currently how much this costs, I've bought it from a friend who ordered the wrong one) and it only emits the color red, it doesn't have RGB which is a plus for me as well, since I dislike them just as you.
The switch is also quite good, of course, it is much louder than a membrane one, but it isn't disturbing for me at all. I mostly play at night and my partner never said anything about it being loud :P
However, if I would purchase a keyboard now, I would probably choose something else. Of course, it is a nice intro to the world of mechanical keyboards, but in this price range, I think there might be better alternatives.
(I only realized now that you are from Hungary as well :D Yeah, our choices are limited, but looking at Árukereső I would say Logitech G413 could be a really good choice, and it is just a bit above your balance!)
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Pretty sure most mechanical keyboards with LED have a setting to turn it off. I'd look into Coolermaster Masterkeys L if I was you. You can choose brown, I prefer blue switches. But this might be exactly what you're after.
I have an old QuickFire TK and it's worth every penny.
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If you ever wanted to wonder down the path of 60% keyboards, I can highly suggest the RK61, You basically get what you're paying for, The bluetooth works well and has not much latency (Still noticeable tho) and the wired mode is really good, I have switched my original RK blue switches with Gateron yellows and it's basically really nice. Also RGB can be turned off, And can be set to different "single colours" both without needing an external software.
I gotta mention that it's hot swappable and the layers are well thought out so that you can access most keys you need without much annoyance
(Also you can get it with brown or red switches, It comes in 2 colours and it also has an option for 2.4GHz wireless)
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It really depends if you want a normal size or the smaller one. I have a smaller mechanical and only a few times a year (taxes) do I wish I had the keypad. Unless you game using that, I'd say save the space.
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It's time to worry about malware worrying about keyboards and hardware leaking information.
I suddenly remembered that Microsoft used to sell keyboards too.
I don't recommend it because it is very expensive...
If someone gives me a Happy Hacking Keyboard (HHKB) mechanical keyboard, I'll gladly accept it.
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Hello good folks!
Nice to see you here!
I am planning on building a new PC in the forseeable future (its just a plan yet, but hopefully executable soon) and while I am mostly sure about what I want to do with my supposed budget, I am kinda uncertain about the keyboard.
After gathering info online for weeks and checking out a few keyboards in Mediamarkt, I decided that I would like to buy my first mechanical keyboard, but as I never had one so far, I cant decide which one would be the best choice.
The price I am willing and able to pay for it is around 70 USD/ ~64 EUR.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but my current candidates are either the Hama Urage Exodus 900 or the Redragon Kumara, brown switch version of both.
Reasoning:
I would like a repsonsive KB that has firm feedback and cant be easily pushed down just by the pure weight of my fingers resting on them, and I'd like one that is not as loud as most of the blue switch keyboards, hence I guess brown may be the best for me. TKL is not a problem, but I'd rather keep it 80% or above.
I am NOT an RGB fan. LED is secondary to me, and I especially dislike the ones that exclusively display the full rainbow spectrum at once. So LED is not a must, but if there is and it can be set to something else than a "puke of colors" (I am sorry RGB enthusiasts), lets say, it can be set to red lights that complement a black keyboard elegantly, I would rather prefer that.
So why this two KB, you might ask?
The Redragon just looks nice and I've generally encountered more positive reviews about it.
The Hama one seems practical with the dedicated volume scroll and the armrest but the brand itself is said to have a rather mixed judgement, especially with how their products stand the test of time.
If you happened to have experience with either of the above mentioned keyboards, or have a different recommendation thats about this price range, or any experience you might share regarding mechanical keyboards, its all welcome. And thank you very much! :)
To reward your attention in a small way, show me how efficient you are with your keyboards!
I guess you should type cm5Lh somewhere, to REVITAlize this thread in case the main topic is not interesting enough. But dont overdo it and type xeiBf accidentally, as that would shine a light on the SHADY PART OF ME.
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