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+1 With that kind of money you can basically spec out a PC with a GTX 970 and i7 4790k. Everything else is basically whatever brands/choices you want as long as you keep the prices similar to what FaithNoMore82 Spec'd for you

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Yeah i saw that, that's why i basically said everything else is really left up to you, you really cant go wrong with anything else. Also i wouldnt go with a Corsair RM series PSU i would go with something else like an EVGA G2 PSU

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Motherboard should just automatically adjust it, so it will run at 1.5v, but this makes losing Mhz speed too as I know, so it will rin at less than 2133Mhz

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Yeah but realistically the difference between 1333 mhz and something like 2133 wont even be noticed, rather get something that would be compatible from the get go.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YxBgK8

Thats what i would build with that money. I left out an optical drive because majority of people dont use them anymore. if you feel you will need one you can pick up a cheap OEM one for like $20. Also i know the PSU is over kill for the system but it leaves room for upgrade and also it will run quite because the fan doesnt turn on until it reaches a certain temp.

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Ask your friend to link you to this 'better system for less', then share the link with us. I doubt it will be better and cost less. You could certainly save some money by picking an i5, only 8GB of ram and cutting out the ssd, but that wouldn't make it better, just cheaper.

edit: also, don't forget to add in an OS, mouse, keyboard, speakers, and monitor to the two partpickers above, if you don't already have that stuff.

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Yeah, it's cheaper, but cuts out the ssd, and cuts the ram in half. The i5 is probably just as good for gaming as the i7 though, at least in most cases.

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First of all its an i7 VS i5. The K in the 4790k means its unlocked. able to overclock. Again he is using a H97 micro ATX board from as ASRock. I rather stick with something like Asus that has shown reliability over the years i have been building PC's and again an H97 Board isnt build for overclocking. Using G skill Memory. While they are good they dont have the confidence i have in a brand like corsair i have been dealing with for a long time. Seagate is shit when it comes to HD reliability and a "Bronze 80+ PSU" The Gold One above is going to be outputting less heat and converting more usable electricity with a better power curve. And lastly, You just said best PC you can build with that money. you basically left it up to us to decipher what best PC means. We dont know if your going to be gaming, rendering etc. so based on the vague question you put. thats what i choose. kickass CPU and GPU's

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Everything he said is valid, but heres the thing you never specified best pc for what. Gaming, Rendering, Modeling, ETC. If you would have specifically said just for gaming, then yeah i would have recommended an i5 with a GTX 980 and only 8 GB or ram. Your buddy is correct on that topic. But you didn't specify. If its for rendering or 3D modeling well that's where you would want an i7 with 16 GB of ram. so i basically took it upon myself to build the best pc i would personally build.

Edit: Decibels are off for your buddy, if he truly have a pc that quite it would be jaw dropping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXZrWqCT7R0

no even people who build only quite pc's can get that low

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PSU brand is sorta important. You dont want to buy a POS like an earthwatts vs a corsair or Seasonic. No point in dropping 1300 on parts, and then skimping on the PSU to save 50-100 bucks and have the entire rig fried.

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I hope so. That's the psu I bought when my Antec kicked the bucket:) I would have went with a gold, for the lower power usage and lower heat, but I was pressed for cash and just wanted my computer working again asap.

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You have to be careful tho, a lot of Corsair PSU's are Seasonic Rebrand and your paying more for similar products. but nothing wrong with that Antec and Thermaltake are seasonics as well. and also check out Johnny Guru when it comes to PSU reviews. he does an amazing job.

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That one is not a Seasonic Rebrand, that one is made by Channel Well. Let me clarify tho, a rebrand isnt necessarily a bad thing, just to be careful in order to make sure your getting the best price by picking up one over the other.

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"You have to be careful tho, a lot of Corsair PSU's are Seasonic Rebrand"
Not anymore, they only have 2-3 SeaSonic rebands in the market, they use Channel Well for most of their PSUs which is worse in quality.

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I agree with what your friend says, but, you did ask for the best you could get in the $1300-$1500 range, and the two posts above did that. However, if you don't mind the cheaper cpu and no ssd, you could get a better mb that supports sli, and get a 2nd 970. That would boost your gaming performance while staying in the price range you specified.

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I haven't looked at the builds, just replying to the information above.

Most of your friends points are around what he deems as necessary to current gen gaming. If you have the budget for something better, it's wise to look at future proofing where possible. More RAM can be added later, another HDD easy, but to skimp on a CPU now will mean a greater cost in the future to upgrade than going with that upgrade now.

That said, even the current gen games I play use multi-threading, and if you take a look at benchmarks of i5 vs i7 in games like BF4 you'll see a performance difference. Also next gen games are going to use multi-threading more too, so if I had the budget I'd get the i7.

More airflow isn't necessarily better, heatsink design and materials can make a huge difference, always compare benchmarks when comparing products.

I have an SSD and even in older games like GuildWars2 it makes a huge difference to load times when transitioning between areas. With BF4 it lets me load into a MP game and be killing ppl while my HDD friends are still looking at a loading screen.

And just to throw it out there, I actually dislike modular PSUs, my current one is modular because it was on sale below the price of others in its range, but I'd never consider paying more for a modular one. Each to their own (-:

Your friends seems to have a reasonable knowledge, I'd recommend you sit with him and look at benchmarks of games you actually play, and benchmarks of the major components you are looking at getting. Many of these will have benchmarks showing a range of comparison components. So many BF4 benchmarks will show graphs of BF4 performance on a range of CPUs including i3, i5, i7 and some AMD, this makes it easy to compare performance to price and meet your needs.

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"Alright boss let's fight. First of all, an i5, especially a 4th generation, is going to be better for current generation and popular games. It has better single-threaded performance than an i7"

lol no

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There's nothing wrong with ASRock, G. Skill or Seagate. Every company has duds now and then and of course DOA parts sometimes just happen. Corsair has had it's fair sure of memory issues in the past.

And the difference between 80+ Bronze and Gold is 5%. Not noticeable. Corsair's RM series is fairly average compared to the competition as well and certainly not worth $118.

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^ this one is great, but if you want you can get 8Gb and i5, and an even more powerful card, but if you are not a hardcore gamer and new to building PCs then I see no reason for you to spending that much money to a PC that you won't fully use

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Intel i5 4690k
Asrock Z97 Pro4
8GB (2x4) DDR3 2133MHz cl 10
8GB (2x4) DDR3 2133MHz cl 10 (optional)
GTX 970
Fractal Design Tesla R2 500W
Crucial MX100 120GB ( or bigger)
Western Digital Blue 1TB ( or 2 - your choice)
Raijintek Themis
Case of your choice (good and cheap Zalman Z3 Plus)

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Current gen i7 + 60+$ CPU cooler if u overclock it. ||
Asus GTX 970 ||
Asus Maximus Hero ||
Samsung Evo 120 GB (or bigger) + WD Black 1TB ||
8GB 1600 Mhz Kingston or Corsair ||
+600-700W Gold power source of choice ||
+Case of choice ||
+DVD of choice (whatever really)

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for that much, you could build the worlds best computer

i paid $700 for mine that i build, 2 years ago, and it still plays everything on maxed out settings, ill even be able to play witcher 3, maxed out. if i would have had a budget of 1500, my computer would be maxing stuff out for the next 10 years,

im jealous of you.

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Just remember: Don't waste money on stupid gimmicky "gaming" components. That includes, but not limited to: gaming mouse, gaming keyboard, and even gaming ram. Ordinary versions of these things work just fine and are much cheaper. Invest in a good CPU, GPU, MOBO, and PSU. Everything else is secondary even storage and memory.

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Your case doesn't matter all that much either as long as you have enough space. Just add a lot of fans for cooling.

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Well your budget came with no info whatsoever, so what did you expect?

And if you and your friend believe your build is better, then go with it.

i7 aren't just for gaming (though they do this as well pretty darn solid), you're gonna love them every time you extract a big zip file, render a video or stuff like that. Also some games eat up CPU power (BF4 for instance), and you won't go wrong with this CPU then.

But whatever, go with what you feel like. If you just gonna play League or Dota, then yeah, this build is overkill.

Just bear in mind, this build will last you longer then the other, and you can add a beefier GPU somewhere later down the line, to revitalize it.

Also, the CPU cooler I choose is a biased option, since they are from a company of my country :3 (But they are darn good for overclocking)

If you don't overclock anyway, I can recommend you something else entirely if you still want it.

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My suggestion
Edit: If you don't want to spend that much on a monitor get a cheaper 1080p and good headphones like the creative aurvana live if you would rather have more perfomance just get second GTX 970.

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