First of all, don't whine. Wait and see what happens. And never do any stupid shit without prior research.
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"Yes, I should have done more research before getting into this and I'm at fault here -_- but please be reasonable and try to give advice instead of criticism."
Well I've already stated something to that above. It was a very tempting offer at the time as I was very determined to get the game at a great cost. It really didn't seem stupid at the time because I only noticed the risk after I bought the game.And yes, it's a lessoned learned.
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As far as I know they won't ban your account for activating a game with VPN. You only get into real trouble if you buy games using VPN (from the Russian Steam store for example). At least that's what I've read so far. I guess the worst thing that could happen is that they remove the game from your library and maybe give you a warning. I've never seen any proof that someone had his account banned for using VPN, but apparently lots of people use VPN to activate region locked keys.
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That would be reassuring, but I don't hear anyone getting warnings from Steam, they are usually banned as soon as they are caught doing something that Steam doesn't like from what I've heard.
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The warning was just an assumption. Fact is that I've never read about a first hand experience where someone's account was banned/disabled/locked for using VPN to activate a game. It's fear-mongering and nothing else. Just google yourself - how many people ask questions like 'Can my Steam account get banned for activating a game via VPN?'. Lots of people. The Internet is full of it. And how many people write about their Steam accounts being disabled because of it? Not a single person. It simply doesn't happen.
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Hmm you have a good point there, though I also tried googling it for myself to see.
1) In this guy's case he was using a VPN to keep a good ping.
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/864980278028207089/
2)Here's a guy that was banned from buying DIRECTLY from the foreign steam store(not activation).
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?154580-I-brought-this-game-from-Bohemia-store-but-Steam-disabled-my-account
This was all I found so far. I only found similar cases but not ones relating to activation (yet).
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First case looks strange and I'm not sure I would trust this guy. Seems like he used VPN all the time while using Steam and who knows what else he did. Maybe he bought all his games via VPN, played VAC secured games via VPN etc etc. That's a whole different story.
Second case also sounds fishy. I do know that accounts get banned for circumventing regional restrictions, but that usually happens if people trade a lot of games from low price regions like CIS to other regions like US or Europe. One of the more prominent cases was the GameMiner account, they sent hundreds of gift copies from Russia to the rest of the world each month and thus their accounts were banned. Happens to Russian pro traders as well, people who use their accounts almost exclusively to trade dozens of games each month. I bet this guy did the same or maybe half of his library were region locked games he activated via VPN.
As long as you don't overdo it you are fine. One VPN activated game won't get you into trouble. I'm not saying this to calm you down and I never used VPN myself, so I'm not saying it to make myself feel better either. It's just that VPN activation is a very common thing, some not so legit key (re)sellers even have manuals or their own VPN servers for that purpose. If Steam would ban accounts for that you'd read a lot more about it.
Read Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky and realize that VPN activation is not for everyone (just like murdering someone).
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oh okay. Thanks for the advice :) VPN activation is something I won't do in the future anyway.
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This makes sense, buying using a VPN might mean bypassing pricings etc, however activating a game has no incidence whatsoever on the price paid.
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I have 2 games I activated with vpn, for over a year ago. They are still there.
The only thing that I think that can happen is that the game gets removed.
You're not gonna lose your account because u vpn'd 1 game.
Just dont do it again is my advice
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They dont care if they dont know , as simple as that ^^
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but it says "EU Version (RU/CIS)" right next to the game. I'm pretty sure they would know if they checked, plus as I said I submitted a ticket (not regarding this issue) that may prompt them to check.
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That was not a good idea, but I've heard a lot of users get away with it. I personally never tried and probably won't, but I think you should just relax and enjoy your library
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It's pretty hard to enjoy something knowing it can be gone before you know it :P
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Then thats a good thing considering I'm never doing it again. Ever.
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Ok, my previous comment was kinda rude, sorry. I've bought region-locked New Vegas (a key from British reseller), and I was unable to activate it. Funny thing is, there was nothing about region-locks mentioned on the reseller's site, so I thought its ROW, region-free or whatever. Well, I used TunnelBear to change my IP to British, activated the game, and change my IP back to the original one. Nothing bad happened, and it was like 4 months ago.
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Many professional game shops in germany are selling keys to uncut-versions which need to be activated with a vpn. They actually give the vpn instructions with the bought game. In my experience the simple activation does not get you banned. Problem could arise if you buy something with vpn or log in all the time with a vpn, or if you add 2-10 RU games to your library every week ;)
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By "professional game shop" you probably mean "key resellers that aren't acknowledged by Steam".
And you're still breaking Valve's TOS.
Official key sellers (like GMG, Amazon) would never tell you to use a VPN.
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Gosh people, you all are being paranoid. There is no proof whatsoever that anyone ever got their account banned. That's all scary little stories so people won't do it. Steam support won't do jack shit except sit in front their PC's, drink some Mountain Dew and scratch their balls while copy-pasting answers to your tickets.
Nothing will happen, don't be a retard and confess you did it. Just sit back, enjoy your game, worst that will happen is they remove it from your account. But guess what, they are definitely not snooping through your account and look vor VPN activated games.
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"You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, we may terminate your access to your Account."
Nothing to worry about at all!
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But... can Steam/Valve actually tell if you are using a VPN, or are actually in that country?
I lived in China for 3 years and bought several games while out there (no VPN) and when back in the UK for vacation time, sometimes in China using UK VPN, I even bought XCom Enemy Unknown from my laptop while I was on a business trip in the USA. Never had any problems...
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I've been travelling a lot and using VPNs as well ( mainly for privacy/bypass_censorship ), i never had any issue, however it is extremely easy to know if one is using a VPN simply by comparing logged ips to those of VPNs/proxies that are mostly public. There is no need for anybody to seat behind a screen you just need to write a program for that. As to the why they are not doing it, haven't already done, i can only speculate.
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Nothing to be paranoid about as there is no doubt that they're aware of what you did. You didn't travel from the Barbados to Russia and then back within a few minutes like the logs would show.
It seems as though support tends to lock accounts as opposed to disabling them nowadays. If your account is locked, you cannot use any community features or purchase anymore games, but you can still access what you're previously purchased. This answer came up in a thread talking about cheating, but I imagine it'd be a similar consequence. Worst case, they'll just remove the game.
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That's pretty helpful :) If that's so I can at least take worrying about my library off of the list. Seems Steam is finally making users actually own their games now instead of having their user's games on a leash.
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Why would you admit to this in a forum? What's to stop some dickhead from reporting you now?
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You just gave this idea to a dickhead reading this forum... Good Job!
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You can actually report people for that? O.o In any case I don't see what they would have to gain from it. In all honesty I'll be surprised if they are actually people who do this. [Insert Welcome to the Internet joke]
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I have done the same thing and I too did not know at the time. Just don't do it again and you should be fine like me. There are people that do it much more often that get away with it and publicly encourage it. I would advise not joining those said people since odds are they will be banned eventually, but eh.
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I would do nothing. I would wait and see if something happens. While you can get in serious trouble for doing this, I do not hear many reports of things actually happening to people because of it. I would not advise VPN activation, but if you have done it, you probably won't get screwed over for it.
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I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure steam would never actually completely ban you. You paid for a lot of your games which are rightfully yours, steam is just the client in which you use to play them. I would assume because of that steam would never delete your account but instead would more likely kick you from certain parts of steam for example trading, or the market place may fail to be possible. I would assume you're no where near the first person to do this though, and if steam banned every single user that did it, there would be quite an outrage even if it is the users fault in a way.
Personally I would leave it and see how it go's, I would imagine steam wouldn't care unless you're a fairly exceptional case, such as doing it all the time, or something that will flag them as being highly suspicious.
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There have been cases where persons lost access to their games because Steam banned them. I was reading this article not to long ago that involved such an incident: http://kotaku.com/5883435/do-we-own-our-steam-games
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Yeah, I also thought about that : | I was even checking to see if it's required to sign up to this site through Steam. Even so though, aren't Steam support more tied with the amount of tickets they have than to browse sites like these? I sent a ticket Monday and still haven't heard from them. They're apparently experiencing "high ticket volumes".
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Nah its fine, don't worry. I would never do such a thing because I don't need to but I've seen many key selling stores where they even gave specific instructions to activate the game with VPN. If I were you I'd rather buy tf2 keys and get the games from tf2outpost or steamtrades for dirt cheap.
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Quite banable offence. Meaning even if you were not the one that bought the game (payed for it) - in the result it still comes cheaper for you then the steam-price was set. And noone wants to lose money. If they didn't care - everyone would use russian IP to activate keys (which are much more cheaper anyway. Just to compare - ArmA3 in steam is 60$, when russians can buy it at russians' online store that sells keys - for 10$. And trust me it's completely legit.) and Valve would lose lots of $$$
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It is not the kind of thing that I would ever risk doing myself, but the big thing that gets you the ban hammer right away is a charge back. That bans your account forever even if it's by mistake. The thing is for general ToS violations Steam enforcement is just not consistent at all. You can break the rules regarding harassment and get repeatedly reported for it for months and nothing will happen to you, but unwittingly call a Steam admin a bad name during an online game and poof no more account for you. In general I love Steam, I just hate that there's no real support and that there's zero recourse to them just taking thousands of dollars worth of games you legitimately bought. It's why with consoles or PC if I can get physical media that doesn't require something like Steam or Origin, I generally do. Of course, I have a few games in my inventory that weren't gifts that didn't need Steam that I still ended up getting because 70-80% off was worth the risk.
In short, I don't think Steam is generally ban happy. There's just the problem that even a minor violation could cost you your account if it's in front of an admin on a bad day.
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You dun goofed. Seriously, at what point did you think that wasn't a bad idea? Even if you didn't know it'd get you banned, just think about what you had to do to get the game. Common sense mate.
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"Yes, I should have done more research before getting into this and I'm at fault here -_- but please be reasonable and try to give advice instead of criticism."
^You didn't seem to read this the first time so here it is.
Anyway though it seems like a very silly reason, I was thinking more about the game than what I was doing at the time :\ Yes I know thats pretty stupid. We all do stupid things sometimes, it's part of being human.
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Isn't that what the 'Close' tab at the top the thread is for? unless you mean permanently delete it.
Yeah, I'm pretty satisfied with the answers I got. It was definitely worth hearing other opinions and it was a good discussion. I guess it's about time to close the discussion.
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As I said it's quite banable offence. And yes - you can get banned. But I still believe that Steam is nice, and their reputation in the eyes of community is more important, then the enjoyment of banning you forever.
So what I'm saying, if you behave nice and had no other offences, even in case they ban you - if you ask nicely, they will unban (I'm sure). Max can happen in result is the removing of that game from your library. So don't worry that much.
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I recently activated a russian steam key for a game on my account using a VPN. I sadly did this without knowing I could lose my Steam account if I'm caught since I'm breaking their SSA. I had bought the game from what I now know are "gray market" dealers and I had googled to find out if the site was legit and from what I read it had more good reviews than bad. I've vowed never to buy another key from sites like these, not only because it's not legal according Steam, but because of the horrid service I experienced.
I have three options:
1) Wait to see if I'm caught, and if I am, try hard negotiating with Steam to get back my account.
I've heard persons tend to get away with bypassing Steam's region lock, but I've also heard of persons are banned for doing so. It sounds like a 50-50 chance. I've heard Steam tends to ignore persons who have had their account banned, not only that but the response time is ridiculous compared to other companies. I've recently submitted a ticket to Steam regarding a different matter, but I can only see this increasing my chances of getting caught since they may have to check my account unless I probably close the ticket.
2) Submit a ticket confessing my action and ask Steam to remove the game from my account as punishment to avoid being banned.
I'll be losing $20 if Steam takes the game away from me. It's a pretty good chunk of money that I would surely love to keep, but then again $20 isn't worth my entire Steam library. As long as Steam is reasonable, I hope that $20 is all I can lose. I was really hoping to play this game though since there wasn't a nice price cut and I got the key at a pretty good price considering the game is relatively new.
3) I'm being paranoid and Steam won't do anything.
Maybe I am, maybe not? I would like to be rest assured that there won't be any penalty. I do tend to over worry a bit to situations like these.
I'll like opinions of what persons think I should considering the situation I'm in before I do anything.
I know persons are going to start these discussions anyway so I'll get ahead of you:
1) Yes, I should have done more research before getting into this and I'm at fault here -_- but please be reasonable and try to give advice instead of criticism.
2) I know, Steam's DRM is a pain a butt and losing your games to a company that doesn't even have telephone support is definitely not ok. If Steam didn't have so many advantages I would probably switch.
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