...even if you never plan on getting Heart of the Swarm.

NO kidding.

Severely limits all other connection (does not play well with other connections), causes lag in-game and you have no choice at all. You fire up the game online, you are HIT.

If you have bandwidth limits, say goodbye to StarCraft 2. If you don't notice what's happening, be prepared for a LOT of extra charges on your ISP bill...

WTF was Blizzard thinking?

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A lot outside the US have bandwidth limits. Even some inside do.

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a day here

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Around an hour here..(Not in the US/EU though)
My monthly usage goes >1TB usually,for some private reasons..

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porn?

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Very private reason. xD

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lolol

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In the UK a lot of ISPs still have limits (the cheapest BT Infinity package is 40GB/month, for example), and even many of the unlimited ones have "Fair Use Policies". I get my speed throttled every month for using too much on my supposedly unlimited plan. I don't use any streaming services (seriously... I still buy CDs for music!), I just burn through an allegedly "unreasonable" amount of bandwidth keeping my MMOs patched up to date and buying digital download games.

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^This

Some people may even use mobile dongles, or whatever they are called. For a while I was restricted to 3GB/month. Now, if I use up my fair use policy (which is 5GB during peak times), my speed goes from 4Mb/sec to 512kb/s. Still, that only applies between 3PM-7 or 8PM.

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Holy Hell, 4 mb/sec? On a good day, my average speed is 300 kb/s. :'(

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I can verify the speed throttling

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What are you on about? There are bandwidth limits in the UK.

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UK is European Union?

Huh.

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Yep, if I remember correctly, we joined in '73.

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Please start acting that way!

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Wow, where the hell are you from that you didn't know the UK was in the EU? Please don't tell me America...I don't want to be embarrassed by you.

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Why would I know your countries political situation?

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.. /face/desk.. He said

"Please don't tell me America...I don't want to be embarrassed by you."

As in, he's from America himself, and hopes you're not from the US. He's not from the UK.

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^This.

:sigh:

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I once had the option between 1GB/month or 3GB/month. I didn't want a bandwidth restriction, but I had to have one as it was a part of their contract.
It may or may not have changed since then (though, it was only just over 3 years ago), but there are still bandwith limits, even if you do not ask for them.

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What the hell are you on about?
My comment

Your head.

I never said anything about a landlord, or an apartment, or changes to a building, or anything closely related to your comment.
My contract was with the ISP, not a landlord. How you thought that, I do not know.
The cheapest internet I could find at the time had a bandwith restriction. I could either pay for 1GB/month, or double the price and get triple the limit. That was their monthly contract.
As I said, there are bandwidth limits, even if you do not want them.

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I'm sorry, but I have no idea as to what you are trying to say.
You said it was illegal to have bandwidth restrictions in the UK.
I said that is false.
You said that you only get them when you ask for it.
I also said that was false.
Now you are telling me about landlords forcing which ISP you choose, and that if I buy cheap services, I will get bad services.

I seriously have no idea where this is going, lol.

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You're either playing ignorant to spur the poor child on, or are just plain ignorant.

"lived there for some time, there are only bandwidth limits if the consumer you wants it, there are unlimited connection everywhere. just one specification for that: money hogger."

He quite clearly means that if you're willing to pay, you won't have a limit. He just can't put it so elegantly.

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I wouldnt survive with such limits. I download consistently 100~150GB per month.

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Most US customers have caps actually. As far as I know, Google is the only ISP without a data cap and usable service speeds. IE, yes you might have a local company give you 750k download with no cap, but thats not useable. Sprint has "unlimited" but you get .2mpbs tops in my area.

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I've got a 120 Gb cap on my plan and that's because I have one of the bigger plans from my provider. Default plans here have a 50 Gb monthly limit. Fortunately, they don't limit transfers between midnight and 8am so I can do all my larger downloads in that time window.

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I do.

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I know a couple who have something like 15MB per day. They live in Tennessee.

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5 GB per months here.

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I just downloaded the latest patch. I tried to play when it was done, but it was unplayable. Found out there was still another download going on 'for a future patch' that was like 6GB. I still haven't finished downloading it.

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That made me lol. A d/l for a future patch XD

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Made me cry.. Not really, but still.. why did i even buy the disc?

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This is why BW limits should not exist...

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Agreed, Brood War limits should not exist!

Sorry, Starcraft thread... had to be said. :P

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I actually read it as that at first.

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Me too.;-)

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Samey same.

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Heard build more overlords

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We also need additional pylons.

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Addition supply depots required.

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I felt that when I tried to play with AI yesterday, goddman lag. They really ruined it with those last few updates.

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Dunno wtf u talk about, at the moment the game takes up 18GB of disk space and there is no way it took only 4 before the update.

That 14 non optional update is 2 GB at most and it actually contains a lot of HotS features.

No idea about the lag some of you experience, I got none (on a quite dated computer still running windows xp sp3 haha).

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My SC2 folder is at 10.2 gigs, so if it goes up to 18 with this update, that would make it 8 gigs.

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Maybe it's bigger but some thing get overwritten ?

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The point is how large it is to download, not how much larger the game is after it I updated.

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(Activision) Blizzard doesn't care about how inconvenient they make things for their customers. No LAN support in SC2, always-online DRM in Diablo III...

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I am at the end of my bandwidth limit... Good thing you said this. I have a 250gb cap. For 4 people.

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Then the time spent posting this was worth it.

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yeah because 2 KB would make a lot of difference

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Your elevator doesn't quite make it to the top, does it>?

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not buy this online drm based game..is so simple

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What the hell are you talking about?

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Steam is DRM by the way. Just thought you should know. :P

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Yet, most Steam games can be played without an online connection, as long as you put Steam in offline mode.

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i am done with blizzard for ever after wow tbc all their games have been shit

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Okay so I don't have Starcraft 2, however, how do I find out if I have a bandwidth limit or not, and if so, how big it is?

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Check the contract you signed with your ISP.

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For me it the download was "only" about 7GB, the end result are 14GB, but it started at 7GB already.

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Nothing is off-topic on SteamGifts.

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ikr

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Be happy they continue to work on the game. Also: The game pre-patched for quite a while already, so you could have split it over multiple month if bandwidth is your concern.

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My limit is like 500 gigas, so I don even care.

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Uncapped internet ftw!

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What bandwidth limit?
Many companies are dropping the limit now that everything is in clouds and streaming.
And WoW is 19.8GB or 18.9GB, downloaded and reinstalled it 3 days ago in about 2 or 3 hours.
The Blizz numbers are also oddly "On HDD" (or installed/uncompressed) size, not the actual dl size if you pay attention while downloading.

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Actually, many starts to bring bandwidth limits back - because of clouds and streaming.

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Well, that would be dumb and suicidal as a company these days.
BTW, I have heard of no ISP re-implementing data limits, some are merely raising them, but now there is competition from cellular services too, not just DSL, Cable, Fiber Optic, Satellite and Dial-up.
Maybe it is a Socialist European thing, the US market is phasing out data caps like Asian markets.

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If the US is phasing out data caps, then it is something new.

I want to think that it was only a year or two ago that Time Warner was adding caps to areas that had little competition. And I think a year ago that Time Warner tried to prevent a city from installing its own fiber internet alternative to Time Warner Cable.

Bandwidth "shaping" and throttling is still being used as well. The rise in video streaming caused that to be applied to things other than torrents.

I have a monthly limit on my connection. There are no extra charges for passing it, but if I hit it, they drop my connection to the lowest speed tier for the rest of the month.

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As Morissey sang: "America is not the world"
Here in NZ data caps as low as 30-40Gb are not unheard of.

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LOL
I have a friend in Christchurch, he says companies just aren't spending money on "Internet Infrastructure", alot of it is in the hands of the government.

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Bad news for dial-up users...

Even for those with newfangled 56kbps modems, this update will take 23 days and 4 hours even your little beige buddy keeps bursting his tiny silicon lungs all the way through...

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yeah... i had to upgrade my Avatex 1200 baud modem finally... :( at least now i have full-duplex!

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Blazing it Rockwell V.92 stylee.

8,000 baud, baby!!!

They see me dialin', they hatin'

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To be completely honest, that is 8 months and 29 days FASTER than any comcast connection that I've ever used, and I'm in a "good" zone.

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You'd be better off calling someone and having them read off a series of ones and zeroes to you if you're using Comcast. They're the AOL of today, overselling and mis-managing.

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Being a big gamer I'm running out of space on my 1TB HDD, so this kinda stings.

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Can't see how you being fat is relevant though.

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i have a download limit of 80 gigs and i pay 40$/month >_<

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Airtel? :P

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You my friend are using the wrong ISP!!!
That is worse than my cell phone data that has a cap of, oh wait, my Sprint Cell does not have a data cap either.

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$85/month for a 30 mbps plan with a data cap of 120 Gb.

Believe it or not, it's pretty much the cheapest ISP around here. I'm just glad I get 10% off for having my cable service from them too, and another 35% off for working at a sister company.

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It should be noted that this is 85 in Canadian Dollars, but this is hardly an improvement when looked at in USD. 82.64 in USA Dollars. A Canadian Dollar will buy you 0.97 USD.

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With the fluctuating exchange rates we sometime get over the US dollar, sometime under. They're so close anyway that I don't really take the exchange rate into account anymore.

I remember a time when $1 CDN was worth about $.70 US. Back then I had to think twice before I ordered something from down south.

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Oh no, I have to download something, thats terrible. They update whole game with balance changes, graphic tweaks and some other useful stuff so I think thats rather good than bad. And 14 GB is not that much, for me is 3 hours to download it and I don't really have fast connection...

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3 hours to download 14 GB, not so fast? Tell me you are kidding...

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So thats like 10 Mbps. That's not much (in Europe at least).

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The majority of Canada is serviced by Shaw and can get 25mbps for $70/month. You have to live a ways away from a main city to not be able to get this.

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I think I do have some fair use clause. Not that it's probably too low probably in some terabyte range... ;D

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it's blizzard, they'll keep making the same 3 games and adding more shiny glitter to it, and the drones will keep buying it.

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the same can be said for COD and AC

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What is a download limit? :D

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It's really a good thing though. They're saving you the giant update when you buy the HoTS expansion. That was the idea behind it. Why would you want to buy it at midnight(like me), come home, and wait 30 mins-however slow your internet is to play? I like it. And you said even if you're not gonna by it, but I believe you are in the minority, and it is for the common good. And apparently your internet is utterly terrible. Game didn't change at all for me besides appearance and I guarantee my laptop is worse than yours. If your internet can't run this, move out of the forest or swamp and go to a place where other people live. Or quit using your neighbors internet. That might be the problem.

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It does change multiplayer, changes the unit controls shown and adds the worker counter on bases.

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I meant in terms of this guy's terrible internet, but yes, I guess you are correct

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Well thank god I don't play that then. It took me 2 days straight to download Max Payne 3.

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So we both have DSL 2000?

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The update is 5GB not 14

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It's strange to see a 14 gb update, that's too much and it looks like it's the game.

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