Not sure about the prices exactly where he is located, but 500 euros = £430, and with £430 in the UK you can easily build a rig with something like HD 7770 and Phenom 965 from scratch.
Since the OP already has an old PC, he could possible use some unimportant parts, like the optical drive, possibly case (if it's a suitable size), thus adding about 50 euros to the spending budget.
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Could you provide any sources on the fact that these products are "unreliable" or explain more thoroughly?
The HD 7770 is one of the most common graphics cards used in budget builds, not only does it do the job well, but it also is quite efficient and if you use a decent brand like Sapphire or Gigabyte, it won't overheat.
The same goes for Phenom 965, it's very commonly used and I've seen people use it for long periods of time without having any issues.
Any products will break down if you don't take care of them, e.g. don't clean the built up dust, re-apply thermal paste or use a proper cooler.
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Any component has the potential to break down, don't you think? I don't know where you're getting the fact that exactly these components will break down within 2 or 3 years, that's nonsense.
Either way, it's not within the OPs budget to get something more powerful. He could of course save up some more money and wait for next-gen cards to release and get the piledriver series CPUs. Though the difference will not be very significant.
Also, such a low budget rig will have to be updated (at least the graphics card) after 3 years anyway, even if the card is still working fine (which it probably would be).
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Are you listening to yourself? You suggested him to get GT 640 (which is miles worse than the HD 7770) and you're telling me it doesn't make sense to get one of those. Get your shit together.
Also, since his primary aim is to use the computer for gaming, having an entry level gaming card is better than having a card which is not designed for gaming at all.
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I did read the topic. Also, the full name of the card is GeForce GT640, they are not two different cards.
You're still recommending GT 640 over what I suggested while they are similarly priced and the HD 7770 beats GT 640 performance wise by miles.
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Like I said, I recommended the GTX 660 or 670. I wasn't the one that introduced this card.
As for "similar pricing", the GT 640 is way cheaper than the HD 7770. The price differences is at least $20 USD. Performance wise, while it's true the 7770 has more power, it costs more and uses more power than the 640.
What use is getting a more expensive card that uses more power?
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Wow, I can't hit reply anymore to your final post, I guess there's a limited amount of allowed replies.
I'd say that $20 difference is small, and they are indeed similarly priced. If you look at various brands of the same card the range will probably be over $50. And it's obvious that a more expensive (more powerul) card will use more power to generate better performance, that's how it works.
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Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Compact £55.20
CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P - £149.34
MoBo - ASRock Z75 Pro3 - £69.26
Ram: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) - £60
PSU XFX Pro 550w - £51.70
Total: £385.45 which equals to 450.41 euros.
via Amazon.co.uk
I think they ship to Poland.
I suggest you use your old GPU, monitor and hard drive until you can upgrade.
This should be okay. Check if the shipping covers it.
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That card was an anomaly, anything with the designation x1x shouldn't be capable of really doing anything. Plus it's performance isn't that great anyway - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
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Tell us your budget and what will you do mostly with your PC.
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you need to set a budget, expectation and needs help with that.
and whatever hardware you will get from your old PC to count out.
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CPU: Intel Core I3 3220 - £93.39
MB: ASROCK B75 PRO3 - £60
RAM: GSkill 8GB (2x4GB) - £52
GPU: Asus or Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7850 1G - £140.00
SSD: Crucial M4 64GB - £56.97
HDD: Your own hard-rive
PSU: Antec VP350P 350W - £37.82
Price from Amazon.co.uk
Total: £440.18
If you want new HDD: Seagate 1TB +£48.8
If you want new Case: +£40 - 50
If you don't want SSD speed, remove it and get you £57 less, but I highly recommend it
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CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3
RAM: Corsair CMV4GX3M2A1333C9
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C, 500GB
GPU: Sapphire HD 7850 1GB GDDR5
Computer Case: Cooler Master Elite 344 USB 3.0
PSU: Corsair Builder CX430 Bronze
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I just dropped by to say don't get a "GT" graphics card by NVIDIA for gaming. At a minimum you should be looking at the GTX 650 (or higher).
As others have noted above there are some great builds you can make for well under your price point. Some decent ATI/AMD options exist as well around that price point, and if I remember right the current ATI/AMD offerings are actually quite competitive at that price range. While I'm personally an NVIDIA guy (have been since the 8800's came out over 6 years ago) I know the ATI/AMD cards are pretty decent right now. If you're looking to do any Bitcoin mining it's worth noting that NVIDIA cards are TERRIBLE for Bitcoins--I don't do Bitcoin stuff but I wanted to make sure it was mentioned.
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I bought my computer parts on the 18th this month and haven't been able to build it. Now today I finally have all day to build it, but I can't find my Windows 7 disk (read: too lazy to look) and I don't have enough HD space to download it off the internet
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You wont need an aftermarket CPU cooler if you aren't planning on overclocking your cpu, and you wont need a cpu with an unlocked multiplier (typically indicated by the "k" on intel cpu's) either if you aren't planning on overclocking. And a gtx 660/660ti/670/680 would be a better choice unless you are planning on buying a seriously underpowered cpu. And if you have a spare bit of cash, add in a solid state drive, you wont regret it.
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If you aren't planning to overclock, the best option, if you insist on having your own choice for CPU cooler, is the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO. It is cheap and will allow overclocking, later. You don't need it, though, unless you plan to ever actually do it. You could always switch it out, later.
The 640 is weak, I would also go AMD and higher up the chain. You get games and usually a lower price. Great overall deals. Try this chart, to show you the different tiers. I recommend at least a 7850, from AMD, with the game bundle attached (Not all places will always have the bundle). Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus are some great AMD companies.
There is nothing wrong with Seagate drives, although Western Digital might be slightly better. I use a Seagate 3tb, personally. The 3tbs have been dropping down, like crazy, here in the states, so keep an eye out for sales on any size. It doesn't matter where you are, there should be some good occasional sales on any size drive you want.
CoolerMaster makes alright power supplies, I would go Corsair, Seasonic, or Antec first. Price at the time of sale, since they always have great rebates. I got a 1200W power supply for less than most 850W ones were, just by hitting a sale. You should easily be able to find a 500-850W priced way down. Make sure to look up some reviews and make sure everything is good. You want ability to hit power promised, ability to maintain it, and also power savings, when possible, among other things. They have some great review sites, like JohnnyGuru. You can just type a product name and the word review into Google and usually trip upon some decent sites, where you can compile information.
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And there's the chance of unlocking that x4 to an x5 or x6.
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Get an AMD APU if you want to go cheap! :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280
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