Thanks, no it's pretty decent priced, seems to be the best intel processor (6 cores, 12 threads) out there for gaming right now, unlike their overkill i9 processors, that's only good if you are using high software demanding programs, and consumes like twice the power.
And oh yeah, it's a TI 4gb.
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:p Actually if your army gets too big, it takes ages to load, dunno if it's a pc thing or server thing though.
Ideally i'd would like a VR set too, but another 1000 would be too much, but atleast i'd be pc ready for it.
A friend promised me FF15 when i will get a new pc.
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I'm speaking as a person who uses 2 PCS and 2 laptops and all my intel/nvidia parts just die like nothing and my AMD parts live for 5+ years... I currently cant use a mic unless I buy an expensive USB set, cause the Creators update + my gigabyte MB are having issues thanks to the glory of "we want you to change a working part cause we dont want you to use it anymore, cause we got more expensive products to sell you."
Literally never had such an issue with AMD. I lost 2 AMD GPUs. Both died after 7 years of use. While my old Nvidia died on the 1st year and they offered to just give me a faster AMD without warrant instead of repairing it. That's the GPU that needed 7 years to die later... my first AMD and my most favorite.
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i just feel better and safer with Intel. To each their own. :)
It's not Church, it's tech. As of today, AMD and Intel objectively both do decent CPUs, period (although both have those Spectre and/or Meltdown-related issues). FUD isn't helping.
If you really are the paranoid type, neither AMD or Intel are good because Intel's Management Engine is evil and AMD has something similar https://www.wired.com/story/intel-management-engine-vulnerabilities-pcs-servers-iot/
I actually have a friend who is into ARM-based computers, apparently they are safer because they don't have some kind of Management Engine (still, as I understood, ARM CPUs also have some kind of Spectre and Meltdown issues)
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I have been using my computer since at least 6 years now and it really requires replacement.
It's too hard for me to save enough for a decent system because everything is too damn expensive due to high taxes on computer items. How much did you get the 1050 TI 4GB for?
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Hope you get some financial windfall.
I am letting it prebuild (yes i know doing it yourself is cheaper, but i also watercool it, and just don't want to mess with it and it's just as easy) and my dad bought a pc from that store too.
I don't have the money just yet to order it (will be may/june) i just looked at the store and what i would want to get myself as an estimate, you can pick from a scroll down list the stuff you want, with the 1050 TI 4GB it says +189 euro, for a 1060 6GB it says +434, 1080 TI 8GB +749, and that difference is too much for me.
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Guess you are out of luck then.
Dunno about INNO3D, offcourse others are better but if that's the only one you could afford, i am sure it would be just as good. The other brands you mentioned and out of stock would have been good options too, same as ASUS. When in doubt just google inno3d review, and read some reviews of what others think about it.
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NO JUST NO. If the brand is unknown just take the bite and spend some more especially for the gpu as the risk is huge and you may end up with a burnt toast. Also n3ov Zotac is a really good brand so dont hesitate to purchase it if you can find one cheaper. Check the prices of Gtx 1050 2 GB, its better than nothing and costs almost nothiing, i got mine for 100 euros.
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Not said he should buy it, just that it's a brand unknown to me (and possibly him) which could be different then a brand that's not known to pretty much everyone else. But even with good brands you could still have cards with issues, and that's why you just always check reviews regardless (more the better). Same as i personally don't know much about Zotac.
And i did just check a dutch one on the Inno and it's very tiny and ideal for small cases, but not good for the airflow. But it does seem to be a good running card. Actually here that one is more expensive then other brands.
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But the thing is that you should always stick with brands that have a big reputation (asus, gigabyte, zotac, msi, sapphire). Of course that doesnt mean that all the other brands are always bad but there is a higher risk. Considering the amount of money that you will spend for a gpu 20 more bucks shouldnt be that big of a deal.
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It depends on what you want to do, but a "decent system" can be cheaper than you think if you really tailor it to your needs. Gaming enthusiasts tend to spread the rumor that an i7 like the 8700 is a must for gaming. Sure it works great, but you won't notice the difference with something much cheaper like an i5 or some not too expensive Ryzen.
You could even try upgrading just your GPU (+ drive if you don't have an SSD), but 6 year old CPU might be a bit too old though
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I think I will need a completely new setup. Besides I am thinking about setting up my current system in another room specifically for my design related work and don't game on it at all or maybe just install some light games for my kids.
I am not that familiar processors and which one to get. But would you be kind to check out the following 2 links and advise if these are any good:
Processor 1: https://ark.intel.com/products/126688/Intel-Core-i3-8100-Processor-6M-Cache-3_60-GHz (This one is approximateley $150)
Processor 2: https://ark.intel.com/products/126687/Intel-Core-i5-8400-Processor-9M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz (This one is approximately $250)
These two are like on top of the page, and the cheapest among the 8th generation processors (whatever the hell that means, but this is the highest generation there is).
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It depends on what you want, if you don't have expectations as high settings and high demand from your computer, then processor 1 is more then enough, especially if finances aren't great.
A 7700 processor is also a good one, but i don't think it will cost alot less then a 8100.
Indeed Coffee Lake are the latest generation (you got I9's but as i said they cost alot more, cost more power and are just overkill).
Note with Coffee Lake you do need to have a motherboard (so also a fairly new generation) that can support it, because the pins are different then older ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake
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As Lugum said, it really depends on what you want to do. But for a budget gaming rig, the i3 8100 is fine and the saved money will allow you to get a better GPU or a larger SSD. i3 8100 + GTX 1050 Ti or 1060 sound nice.
Also, even if you don't upgrade your previous PC, you could recycle your PSU and case. I did that not that long ago : took a 5 year old PC, removed everything and kept case + PSU + even the (pretty useless) DVD burner. Easy $100-150 saved.
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Well what i want is everything on extreme settings, with a VR set and a big monitor, but that isn't going to happen (now). :p
An 8700 will sure atleast be more future proof, 7700 (that i5 or i7? stupid numbering) would be good too, i don't think a coffee lake is really that expensive though. But considering the pc i have now, any upgrade would already be a big difference offcourse.
I looked extensively at independent benchmarks comparisons too, i don't just trust some person by their words or views.
I got someone's old geforce 550 from here, only had to replace the power supply, but it was just too noisy for me (no fan control either with the motherboard being so old) and just had to put back my 430 in.
Upgrading really isn't an option anymore.
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Well what i want is everything on extreme settings, with a VR set and a big monitor
Ah, I don't know VR well enough but I think it's demanding on the GPU but not that much on the CPU. Same for high-definition gaming. But yeah, if you want to be future-proof, a better CPU will always be better indeed...
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Yeah but VR cost another 1000 that i just won't spend atm, i just "joked" that would be my dream situation, what i described in op would atleast be my minimum wishes, maybe i'd eventually could put a 1050 ti sli in, or upgrade it with a 1080, time will tell.
I don't care at all if i have a game to run on minimum settings, as long as i can run that game, and like i would want to be able to play something like Final Fantasy 15 (or even World of Final Fantasy), now my pc can't even run Final Fantasy 12.
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Congrats. I'm still using a build from 10 years ago. I'm sorely tempted to join you in upgrading, but RAM and GPU prices are just too high. Any hope of them coming down in the next year or so? Maybe RAM, but I don't hold much hope for GPUs. Stupid cryptofarmers.
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Thanks, i don't know, feel the whole computer "market" is flat on it's ass, same for harddrives (hardly any big increase in size nor price drops), wouldn't count on it atleast.
If one is into indie games, there is still plenty of games one could play on an older pc.
I am also just buying a whole new one, rather then upgrading, if that is indeed your case, i'd say 10 years is just way too old to upgrade it more, especially if you have an old motherboard, you could run into issues with a new GPU.
A geforce 1050 would be about 180 euro, i wouldn't find it expensive, but it depends offcourse how much you can afford.
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I build my own, but yeah, I'd have to get a new motherboard, CPU, RAM, and GPU. Maybe PSU, too, who knows. Almost the whole thing. With careful tuning, I was able to play Rise of the Tomb Raider on it with no major issues, but I missed out on some of the heavier settings, like detailed shadows. I don't anticipate playing any newer AAA games soon, but it is definitely showing its age regardless. I can afford to upgrade, if I really want to, but it's a matter of justifying blowing some savings.
Good luck, and enjoy your new computer.
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Whatever you do, don't do it now. Don't think RAM prices will go down soon, but GPU prices are simply at a peak. I hope cryptofarmers will find a new way to farm other than GPUs sooner or later, simply because current GPU architectures will not be able to hold up with the difficulty of cryptocurrencies.
On the other hand, Nvidia has announced their new architecture and a new GPU line. Nvidia GV 100 or TItan V will be the headliner, with probably GV 80,70,60 and 50 taking the place of current GTX 1080, 1070, 1060 and 1050.
By now only the Titan V is confirmed, though.
This means that the current gen of graphics cards will have to fall back in price.
I mean, current prices are at least 30% more than they were when they were released. My 1060,paid 280€, is currently for sale for fucking 400€. Untouchable.
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8700 is overkill, 8400 pretty much offers the same gaming performance, won't bottleneck any GPU especially just a 1050ti, so you could save some money there and maybe go for a 1060, would be a big difference.
Oh and congrats on the new gig, I'm still waiting on my health to allow me to do the same.
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I could and hope eventually to upgrade the GPU, a 8400 would save about 150 euro, but i'd still need 200 more for a 1060, difference is still too much.
These are comparing them. http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8400/3940vs3939
Thanks, and good to luck you, actually my health isn't top either, and am able to tackle both now (seeing doctors and stuff).
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congrats, you're going to see such a huge increase in performance. It'll be like somebody coming out of a tech coma after 10 years. :D enjoy it!
here are my 3dmark stats for my laptop and desktop systems
I'm going try to make those last another year or two at least. Though I've always got the temptation to build something new as we all probably do. :) I could for sure upgrade the GPU in the desktop machine, but right now it's being used as a linux VM hypervisor so the GPU is completely irrelevant anyway. (I installed Windows on a spare hard drive just to run the benchmark) In the past when it was my everyday machine I overclocked it by about 25%. but these days I'd rather have stability and cooler temps.
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Thanks. speaking of a tech coma, I don't even have a smartphone (wouldn't want one anyway, how you see some people are stuck to it all day).
Not really sure what VM Hypervisor is about, i do have Vmware Workstation though, handy to have some old OS for certain older games.
It's all about the money, what you can afford, how much you be willing to spend on it, and yeah would differ for everyone, but we'd all want the best if we could, like how some dream of wanting a Porsche but are stuck with an Opel.
I should benchmark this pc someday (got 3dmark on steam) and then compare that to the new one, could be fun.
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Oh yeah, you should definitely run the benchmark on the old PC and the new one when you get it all put together! It'll give you some concrete (if arbitrary) measurement of how much "better" your new one is. And you can do the side-by-side comparison like how I did in my link. :)
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Had my training day at work last week, and officially started yesterday, and been years (pc i have is 8 years old with some upgrades) since i treated myself, it's part time so can't go overboard.
The pc i now have is a quad core with a geforce 430 gt, but coming more and more across games this pc just can't run, and sometimes it's starting to get a bit slow.
Decided to go with a coffee lake 8700 processor and Geforce 1050 TI (4GB) (anything bigger will jump in price too much).
Might take up till may or june before i can actually order one, but pre exciting jitters. :)
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/UzEw0/headache
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