your main won't get banned for having 2nd account. But as VPN is against TOS your 2nd may get restricted eventually. It won't harm your main thou if you keep accounts separated.
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I'm pretty sure you can still get in trouble via IP address but I've never tried it. VPN isn't allowed so if you got caught and they found out you had a second account you'd probably be in 'double trouble'.
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If you say so. Back yourself up with evidence at any point.
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why so mad m8? What if you're playing at a house with more than 1 person ? Each other in different accounts? Same IP yea? Both banned ? I dont think so.
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I didn't say he would get banned for using different accounts at the same IP.
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I'm pretty sure you can still get in trouble via IP address
What trouble then?
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'' VPN isn't allowed so if you got caught and they found out you had a second account you'd probably be in 'double trouble'.'
I was saying that he would get in trouble via which means through or by means of. If they check that they are the same IP, one would assume they(steam support) would think 'same IP = same account = ban alt account) especially since VPN isn't allowed. Besides, this is Steam support. They either wouldn't do anything at all or go all-out and be surprisingly 'active'.
vi·a
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preposition
traveling through (a place) en route to a destination.
"they came to Europe via Turkey"
by way of; through.
"they can see the artists' works via a camera hookup"
by means of.
"a file sent via electronic mail"
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RobotDeathParty used dictionary.
It's super effective!
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Excuse me, but please tell me how they will find out that those two accounts are at the same IP, if he uses a VPN for one of both.
- Main account: original IP
- second Account: IP of VPN
I don't get what you're saying...
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He is not going to use a VPN all the time for his other account, just for the activation of games.
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He needs it to play the games as well. It isn't activation only! These games are completely blocked. You neither can activate, nor download, nor play the games in question here.
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Are you saying he/she will have a VPN activated at all times? I doubt it.
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He needs it to play the games as well. It isn't activation only! These games are completely blocked. You neither can activate, nor download, nor play the games in question here.
Oops, meant to go up there ^^
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If the game is downloaded on your computer, however, you CAN still run the game.
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You're talking about offline mode? Or applying a no-steam thingy?
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I know that there are several methods. I, personally, have succeeded in offline-mode both in and outside of steam.
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this whole conversation is just wrong in so many ways....cod titles for example just need the activation, done
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I'm sure what I said isn't wrong but care to clarify? I mean, I've played a few of my Steam games outside of Steam, as in Steam not opened.
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i already clarified that by "cod titles for example only need the activation, done"
just a few are totally blocked (vpn needed to start the download or to start the game), often you can close the vpn after starting the game like it was needed in the RU/CiS Skyrim version
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I already wrote it down in the thread somewhere. This topic is not about games that only need VPN-activation but are blocked completely: (Namely Sleeping Dogs DE and Wolfenstein titles which can only be played in a cut/censored version in Germany)
http://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/s8bvjlZ
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I can't even... bro... thats just wrong in so many levels.
Not sure if bait or not.
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Considering your history of being a random annoying little shit to random people, I'm assuming you're trolling. Get out of here, you joke.
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Is honey boo boo mad? Back to reddit you go.
Plus, you dont know shit about VPN's and steam TOS/rules, so stop crying kid and calling others names, the only joke here is you, you don't know shit ignorant.
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Yep, still the dipshit of the forums. Keep on keeping on.
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Your patronization means nothing. You're just another of the "Let's 4-chan-ize the forums! Let's be hypocritical and ironically funny!!1one!1!one!!11"
Anyways, your history on these forums isn't surprising.
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I was playing kid. Who is this 4chan?
Im not the one crying here.
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You so mad and pissed off you cant even think.
It's funny.
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Hope mods realize how much you act like a dipshit on this website and realize the hypocrisy of banning someone for entertaining a troll but I'll take the precaution and delete my posts. You will probably be banned at some point anyways.
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:c Goodbye. Dont forget to say "sorry", canadian dude.
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Who said I'm Canadian? Also, why would I say sorry to you?
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Oh, right, of course. That's supposed to amuse me alongside your stereotypical 'joke internet attitude'.
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Are you ONLY able to patronize people or what? It's not even amusing, funny, or smart.
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I don't know, you tell me. Do you like failed attempts at trolling? Do you even try?
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Probably since you failed to actually give any kind of support to the discussion at hand and randomly called me out even though I already gave support for my side of the discussion. You're not amusing and quite frankly you're only presenting further proof for how bad of an attitude / sense of 'fun' you have.
Oh, yeah, also Reddit =/= 'I disagree with you so I'm crying lolol so funneh'. Besides, Reddit is as much cancer as 4chan is.
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Its so funny the way you're so mad and trying to prove your point time after time. Why isn't this over yet? I dont have the time nor patience to keep talking about the same shit for 2 days.
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Then maybe you shut stop your 'tough guy dipshit' act and leave. What, you think I'm going to accept your random instigation and attempts at embarassing me? Like I care. You started this, especially since you misunderstood me, refused to admit it, and then continued despite the fact I know EXACTLY what you're all about. Hell, specific others on these forums tend to do the same shit sometimes but they don't go around spamming nonsense on every post around here and they tend to not really post a lot either, so fair game.
Also, I'm not mad(already stated I show apathy towards people like you) and I only 'tried'(aka succeeded) to prove my 'point'(facts which I did prove) once so you're trying to make your own 'point' out of nothing.
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Also, straight from the Steam Subscriber Agreement, section 3A.
'You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, we may terminate your access to your Account.'
Also, quote from somebody named 'Oklep', a comment that is 6 months old, the thread
'Few years back, my acc was suspended because of VPN. Not only that, my second acc was suspended as well.
So the answer is yes.
After they will see some suspicious things (for example cross-logins in various counties), they will suspend your account and possibly all accounts related to your computer and IP address.
This was also my case and I had pretty hard time. Just dont do it, those few bucks are not worth it'
So, yeah, your 'trolling' failed horribly. It wasn't even amusing and the 5-or-so minutes that it took me to give actual evidence for my comments wasn't a lot of effort, while you are just spouting nonsense in an attempt to aggravate me when I feel apathy towards people like you.
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I know you'll get banned for associating a second account with SteamGifts. I'm not sure about the other stuff. I'm pretty positive it's against Steam's policies.
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hmmmmmm crap! so it seems i have to forget the 2nd account then...............
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having 2 accounts itself is not bannable. I myself have 3 accounts. My main, my fiancee's acc and 3rd idle and inventory storage acc. So for 2nd acc alone you won't get into any troubles (unless you try to use it on SG - then it's a permaban for all acc associated).
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The second would technically be account sharing which isnt allowed.
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what? can you explain me how me and my fiancee having 2 separate accounts is account sharing exactly?
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Having separate accounts wouldn't be but you were also referring to it as your account. If you have access to it that's account sharing and whilst it's unlikely to be an issue it's not something that is actually allowed.
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From Steam's EULA also known as DerpULA
"You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve."
Not exactly sharing, but against the holy EULA :D
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Why? You can have as many accounts as you want, even on the same email address, nothing wrong with that.
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some ru games will not run unless they have a constant ru connection.
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I think it's easy and your idea isn't that bad, better risk a new account than your main!
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As far as I know you have to create the Steam account in that region, where you want to use it, because now every account has a Store region, which means that VPNs are unable to trick Steam. You can however change your Store region, but for this you must have valid papers to identify yourself. Although I encourage everyone to buy games, in this case I wouldn't risk any of my accounts by buying a restricted copy. If they find out that your main and secondary account have any kind of connection you might lose both of them. Also don't try to login to SG from your secondary, because the system doesn't like accounts from same IP.
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Well I know a lot of people who use VPN to by pass regional restrictions and they've been doing it for years and not a problem. It's just a hassle.
Of course, it is prohibited by steam and is against their TOS, so who knows... One day they might decide to ban everyone who does that and guess what? You won't be able to do ANYTHING about it!
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Always remember, GabeN is watching you... so better stay out of trouble.
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Can I use your topic to ask a related question?
I have 2 friends that live together, they share the same internet and I recently talked about steamgifts to both of them when I went to their house. I know for sure that at least one of them is using the site.
Both of their accounts are old accounts with all their personal data on it (no matching data like cc, etc).
Are they ok? Can they get in trouble if both of them are using it?
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can't you get ROW keys from sites like GMG/bundlestars or by trading?
I can't buy Fallout 3 & fallout new vegas in India but I have NV in my library...
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Even if he gets a gift copy or a key, he won't be able activate it in Germany
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If you buy a gift copy of Wolfenstien: TNO, it will say "This is a restricted gift which cannot be redeemed in these countries : Germany"
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didn't know..how can we have fallout when we can't see its store page?
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Because Fallout 3/Fallout NV are not banned in India. Bethesda simply didn't release them here so we can get a gift copy from a friend and activate them. On the other hand, Wolfenstein: TNO UNCUT is banned in Germany so Germans can't activate an UNCUT (which has Nazi references) copy no matter what. They'll have to use VPN to activate it which might result in their account getting banned/suspended.
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Is it really worth all this trouble and hassle to get cheap games??I must assume that is the case as that is about the only reason i see for it other then getting games that you can not buy in your region,but in that case it be much easier to just by a row copy.
They are play locked now are they not? so you will always need say a Russian IP if you activate a copy from say Russia.
I am not sure how safe you would be,but i do not think they would block the ip all together for one person using VPN just same as if i logged in cheated and got VAC it is only on my account not whoever logs into with my IP.Though nobody knows for sure what they do and do not do for VPN and being caught.They can delete the whole account but usually they just lock you out of everything but your games,so pretty much no online and no community and so on..
Though if you was going to do this if you wanted the best chance to keep the account good,you might want a dedicated VPN so you will always have the same IP
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It isn't for cheap games. They are in Germany, where certain titles are either censored or banned from sale and activation. They used to activate such titles on their main account with VPN.
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exactly, sad but true, beind 30 years old and thanks to drm i have no legit way to play some games uncensored and i dont do warez so i still wanna play those games and i only see this as an option :( or playing on ps4 as imported discs, but on pc you still have better performances etc.
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thanks a lot, so can you receive gifts from people? cause i would need to let Sleeping Dogs DE and Wolfenstein be gifted to me on the 2nd new account.
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That's where I could see trouble coming. That second account, which is in breach of the ToS, would be linked to the gifting account. If that gifting account and the 2nd account were clearly alts then someone could put 2 and 2 together and shut down both accounts.
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That second account would be in breach not the first account,they are two accounts,each would be treated as that.
If this was the case trading as a whole would be a lot more risky,as what if you traded with someone who has an account just for trading,and they get punished because you violated terms using VPN on a gift you gave or traded them.
Each account is treated as one,just same as if say my brother had an account and i traded him some items that where say restricted and he decided to violate TOS and use VPN to access those said items,They are not going to shut down my account because he violated the TOS.
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Well I was assuming he would be gifting the games from his first account to his second one. In that case it would be very easy to see that the accounts were owned by the same person while investigating VPN use. An overzealous support person might punish both accounts as it was clear it was just one person trying to get around the region locks.
If it's like your example with two completely separate accounts then I agree, they will only punish the VPN users account.
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Well true,maybe it would be best to make 2 accounts for the one? i guess in that case i see what you mean.
Too bad they where not on GOG
Well the only other solution i can think of a crack for it,but still if they can not even download it from there ip they would have to download the whole game and become a pirate
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Well some can still be activated with a row copy and play just fine.
Dead Rising 2 for example states it is not playable on Germany IP
Notice: Capcom requires that this game will not install or update when connecting from an IP address attributed to Germany.
Some just block purchase of it,like Sleeping Dogs does not say that so you might want to see about a row copy and ask if anyone from Germany has played it just fine with a row copy.
This way you can actually add it to your main account instead dealing with all that other unless it is last resort.
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Wolfenstein is btw not possible to play while being in Germany.. :/ the row version I mean. My steam store is set to Denmark (since I'm from Denmark, but atm I'm living in Germany with my boyfriend), so I can buy the row copies, but when I tried to install Wolfenstein it wouldn't let me since I'm in Germany with German ip....
I'm thinking about getting a refund since it might get cheaper at winter sale which is about the same time I most likely will move back to Denmark.
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Try that refund thingy.
It's worth it. :-)
But this is just my opinion :D
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I gave a Sleeping Dogs DE recently and this was the message on the ROW gift . It mentions that can't be played on Germany, but I'm only going by that message.
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Hmm ... was also considering a second account, for farming cards on games that don't really interest me otherwise. There's often some cheap games or even free keys for games that I don't really want to play, that come with cards. Now the question is, when I gift over the cards and stuff to my main account, would Valve consider that behaviour suspicious? I hear they've frozen accounts or removed games pretty much on suspicion only.
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No not unless you got those items with fraud or scamming or such.i have an alt for the crap free games i do not want on my account or bundle left overs and farm them for cards just fine.
I also use to use it for TF2 so when my nephews come over and want to play they can do so since they do not have Steam i know it free,it mom that has not allowed them one yet,though to be fair they have a xbox 360,ps3,xbox one so not like they do not have enough to play lol
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No fraud or scamming. Just, you named it, bundle leftovers, free keys, or otherwise cheap stuff that's good for farming cards. I still would have to move over the cards and stuff via gift option on a regular base, so this might look suspicious to an automated anti-hacking-whatever system. And since it's on the same IP, it wouldn't be hard to find out that the two accounts are connected and maybe freeze them both. Or am I too paranoid here? I just never had need to contact Steam support, and from all the horror storries here, I hope to keep it that way.
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You might be a bit paranoid on using it to farm cards and left over bundle or dupe keys,i do it,and countless others have and do.
Like i said only if your using it scam or commit other violations would they take notice.
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Wasn't VPN activation stopped when they implemented the new, stricter region lock system and forced everyone to give their own location instead of using IP identification? Because I use a Swedish proxy at work, and I still see games in the store that are valid for my region, not Western Europe.
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It goes by what region your account was in when you made it.
So in theory if you connect to a VPN and make a new account it will tie it to whatever region you use your VPN for and then you will have to keep connecting to it,to not throw any red flags,if you use free or public vpn it would be easier to detect because more then one would more and likely share the same VPN IP
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2nd account is fine, though if any of yours get an suspension(ban), both/all your accounts will be affected.
They also have a system detecting this.
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but why you use vpn ? search a swiss friend like me who gift you the games that you need uncensored you can use them without vpn the only game i know you cant activate on this way is deadrising off the records.,
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some Row games are completely blocked in Germany (Wolfenstein and the like). One cannot play these (ROW-)games in Germany (with a German IP). - It's not about being able to purchase them.
And the only versions that are available in Germany (if at all) are cut/censored.
There are also those games (like Dead Island) which cannot be bought through the steam store but where the ROW-version still can be activated in Germany. These games are not part of the discussion. (can be obtained through 3rd party re-sellers (like GMG, indiegala, humble store, bundlestars and the like)
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sounds like steam goes fully retarded, As a swiss guy i recive 2 versions of wolfenstein 1 x german version 1 x row version
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Now that is very interesting. did you purchase it on the steam store? (and then you got two versions in your account?)
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i dont buy it since im not that much interested in wolfenstein but it says that
http://gyazo.com/79969f63949e5768a761b66aa7884730
and its a package with two versions
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Very interesting... I looked through steamdb.info and it seams, this is the only package where this happens. There are special AU/CH releases (packages) for CoD:Black Ops, but that's about it...
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If you set up a second account, you will need to spend a minimum amount of money to be able to trade from that account...all card drops will be untradable and unmarketable on a restricted or "free" account.
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i wanted to do a 2nd steam account just for the crap stuff which need VPN activation (wolfenstein, sleeping dogs etc.). as i dont want to risk my main account to be banned. but can you do a 2nd account without probs? and can u get a gift as a new steam account asap?
i wanted to get sleeping dogs definitive edition today but have to use VPN then as there is geolock for germans (lol).
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