But you're not forced to do them.

Those are just extra stuff, you don't have to find them all if you want to beat the game. I don't see why you are complaining ._.

You do know Batman was originally supposed to be a detective anyway right? That concept kinda got lost along the years. So really and truly the game is keeping true to how it should be. Then again I haven't played them so I can't fully judge it.

You don't have to do it, and I personally love it. There's really no downside to having them.

They're always a secondary, unimportant objective, so you can skip them if you don't like scavenging ;)

BTW, I really liked hidden items hunt in Sleeping Dogs. If you do some side missions, you'll get the locations of hidden objects. So searching is more fun and less frustrating ;)

I completely agree. It's much better to have a shorter, more focused, much higher quality experience.

Whoopsie...

The beauty of optional collectibles is the optional part.

Simple minds get distracted with little shiny things, i agree with your point, the idea of having other stuff non story related on the game is supposed to be fun, not a repetitive task which wasn´t inspired in any stretch of imagination to begin with. I just don´t bother with that stuff in those cases and go on to another game.

fwiw, I agree.
but also, I agree with everyone else so far too.
Thing is, games have had these things forever.
Easter eggs are the easy one. I can't count how many versions of Max (of Sam & Max fame) I've found over the years in the old LucasArts games -- especially in Outlaws... there are dinosaurs in that game if you go looking hard enough.
Wolfenstein 3D... Doom... tons of secret hidden things.

It's only recently that they've been made a part of "the game". If you try to remember their history, and how they were more like rewards for the particularly investigative players, they're easier to stomach, and even skip.

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A couple of games that did it "right", imho...

• Brutal Legend... play through it and you'll get something to help you find everything.
• Saints Row: The Third... they all eventually appear on the mini map.
• Sleeping Dogs... also (almost) all appear on the mini map, plus these seemed spaced particularly well and hidden in interesting spots.
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I like collectibles...

They put stuff in there for the people that do enjoy the game enough that they want more things to do/find, if you like to play as many games as you can though you should just skip doing things like that :p

There's a few games which do collectibles right, the Crackdown games for example as you feel real reward for collecting orbs and powering up your character... if it's silly stuff like artwork etc. however though it really annoys me as well =/

My problem is pretty much the same,i get nothing beside an achievement (a new weapon/function would be cool)

So i have no reason to get 100% progression

Yeah i cant resist to find everything in a game i like - sidequests, easter eggs, secret powerups for example. But in most recent games its like "collect 200 hidden orbs" or something like that... so im ending up getting bored of searching and then i get annoyed enough to drop it. So if it was 10/10 when i just played - it becomes 9/10... 8/10... 7/10... "friends, im not recommending this game, its annoying". Hope you got what i wanted to say.

Stick to linear games then why don't you? I suspect you'll be complaining about that in no time. Open-world is a lot better than linear game play imo. What exactly do you want?

collectibles are mainstream in every open world games ever :P

I liked the ones in batman, they weren't as simple as just picking an item up.

Simply: Quantity over quality.

Of course we prefer the other way around.

Alan Wake - Coffee Thermos <-- Find this a big problem.

Yeah.. Didn't complete Saints Row 3 because of that. Collecting everything in an open world is just boring and too time-consuming

To be honest, I hate collectibles.

I'm a completionist so I usually do all the collectibles if I can. My problem isn't usually their presence in a game but their worthlessness. If they are part of the game somehow, then it's fine.

Collectibles only really annoy me when their only purpose is to be collected for the sake of having 100% show up on a stats screen.

Then Arkham City is going to piss you off more.