What is up with the dividence of PC & Console gamers?

I looked up to see if dividence was a word. I won't spoil it for anyone, though...

Sir/Lady, you are smart.

because people feel superior to others, and they like to belong to a group. makes them feel awesome being part of a "tribe", you know, like a caveman.

I want to play Bloodborne :(

i could a reason to consoles in the past but this current bunch its pretty meh, what great game can i play on a console that i cant on PC? can only think of 1....

If i were complied to get one it would probably be one from Nintendo.

Wii U/PS4/PC Master Race.

The only reason that pc gamers hate on consoles that I know, is that multi platform games suffer on pc because of consoles. This also leads to developers showing footage that was never going to happen e.g.. watchdogs, the division.

The thing about console exclusives is that at some point, they will be playable on PC. It defeats the purpose of owning a console.

Honestly every platform has people that will argue why their platform is best but in most cases it all comes down to "where can you get the best games?" Console wars have been a thing for a long time and it's usually due to one groups fanbase feeling personally insulted when you say that the console they prefer isn't what you prefer and the whole pc master race thing is about some people who fall under the mindset that a pc is the best way to play a game and every other platform is inferior while microsoft/sony fans will argue their side to the death with so many overused points (such as "my console has better games" or "my console has a better interface" or some other argument) while you have some people who say nintendo has the best games/consoles (usually under the reasoning that the games are "classic" or "original" or more "family-friendly").

Personally I own an Xbox one, ps4, wii u, and a custom gaming pc (can you tell I'm a huge gaming nerd) and I never really felt an affiliation with any specific group because they all have their ups and downs and I've never seen a reason to support one side more than the other.

tl:dr - all consoles are cool in my eyes

I feel that in the internet the rift between PC and consoles is mainly about 3 things:
1) PC is superior in almost every way to a console as such it might make more console oriented players a need to defend their purchase.
2) Multiplatform titles feel badly ported making PC players seeing that console brought their game down for no reason.
3) Video games media is very "unprofessional" in a sense that likes to downplay or hype some games for marketing reasons; this leads to disappointed people trying to "prove" those sites wrong which leads to a clash between players (those that liked the game a lot and those that feel deceived).

The only people who hate on any system are idiots.
Their opinion isn't worth shit.

TabletMasterGamingRace ... no seriously. Only reason I can hate consoles is that some ports end up with poor controls on PC here have 1 button that do several actions
When comes to comparing , its hard to compare PC to Nintendo duo to different games but xbox/ps4 seems to try to compete with PC => you have the "war" between PC and Console games.

The same reason there was a big Nintendo/Sega "war" for so long. Plus PC used to be quite different from consoles: different hardware architectures, different software implementation, different control schemes, different genres. Before publishers simplified all PC-specific genres down to nothing to port them over, blurring the line between the platforms.

but some of the best games ever made where for console only (Legend Of Zelda and such)

But... but... only a single console game made it into my top 10 list (Super Metroid).

No, but seriously, when it comes to fanboyism of this kind, it's usually a way of validating your choice. "I picked PC because it's clearly the best one". Between PS4 & Xbone the difference is so small that it all comes down to those handful of exclusives, which one do you prefer? With PC you can introduce more arguments for or against it (harder to use, but more powerful and for anyone who plays more than a handful of games, cheaper). But in the end, you should go with the system that has the games that appeal to you the most. As I'm heavily into strategy games and CRPGs, PC is the natural choice, but for someone into sports games, one of the modern consoles is a better choice. Also, couch multiplayer has traditionally been better/more convenient on consoles (which incidentally is why I bought a Wii during the last gen), though I guess with things like steamlink, that might change.

Consoles want to be artificially elitist, their entire being is composed of this, think about it.

What is a console? Hardware-level DRM/branding. So the primary "perk" you list for consoles, exclusive games? Exist solely to tout the brand and sell more hardware DRM, further locking you into their branded stuff and their control. I despise the console exclusive concept because it's entirely artificial, while some games exist only on PC, a whole industry hasn't been raised up to code PC-only games just to sell more PCs and PC-branded stuff. I can credit the console with the ongoing development of the gamepad and that's about it, in pretty much every other way consoles are parasitical and contrary to openness, and now what are they doing? using optical drives, USB, hard drives, etc? Oh right, they are using technologies developed in good will by cooperating PC hardware entities to further the PC form factor, total parasites.

The only reason they have those nifty exclusive games is to sell you their DRM hardware and lock you in to years of buying their branded peripherals and overpriced games.

:pcrace:

I think that lots of people like to justify their purchase to themselves. If, for example they spent their money on a PS4, it makes them feel better about it if they can argue to themselves that they made the right choice and they aren't missing out on anything.

There have been good and bad games on every gaming platform going back as far as I can remember. Even when there are multi-platform games with differences between each port, I don't think there's ever one single platform that always has the best version.

It's just human nature. People act the same way about plenty of things, especially sports.

Personally, I'm a PC gamer because PC provides an objectively better gaming experience (more control options, better performance, better graphics, lower input lag, etc) and is not saddled with all the anti-consumer exclusivity contracts of the console market. I'd rather not play a game than support that business model.

Because of exclusives. What else? Nothing's wrong with "dividing".
Each consoles have exclusives because it runs on different Operating System (OS).
(most) PC runs on Windows. Most PC games supports Windows OS.

Because sometimes developers just make a shitty port to PC.

When talking about 'best games ever' you're in totally subjective territory and that isn't going to be the same for everyone.

But yeah, I'm on PC primarily and for the same reasons as most. Cheaper games, better framerates and resolutions (generally,) more options regarding customization, modding etc. These days it's easier to install something on Steam than it is to play it on say Xbone too (seriously, I tried to play Halo: The Master Chief Collection yesterday, and with console updates, game install and game updates it was nearly an hour before I could play it >_>.)

There's always going to be a sense of defiance that whatever you bought is the best because God forbid that you make the wrong choice when purchasing a system, the console wars fundamentally got built on this idea.

But whatever, play whatever you want on whatever you want.

Consoles were "king of the gaming hill" until the early/mid-life-cycle of X360/PS3 - hands down, anyone claiming something vastly different lived probably under a rock surviving on whatever digestible scraps got released on PC lol not knowing or disregarding what has been out there. I'm not kidding ... but then hardware got better and cheaper than ever before and was sufficient enough to compete with consoles easily (roughly late 2006) > PC's were useful anyway for work/interwebs/porn/whatnot so "worthy gaming" followed suit as well ... today's rational choice would be obviously > PC over anything.

What i don't exactly understand is why so many great console games take so long to release on PC ... this is mind-boggling and weird
considering some games have been PERFECTLY replayed a thousand times through emulation for quite some systems and some time.
^ Might be because the PC gamer is the typical pirate asshole who will steal all of your shit and never even bat an eye lol ...
(i can relate, i've been that guy, but it was pointless anyway - i've never played or touched most of that gaming trash) this would perfectly
correlate with the increasingly enforced business practice to make games "online only". Consoles still serve a purpose and probably
will for quite some time - likely until the platform/hardware doesn't even matter anymore.

^ So yeah i don't see any rivalry either ... its just different paths of different hardware serving various purposes,
that are bound to get unified and all accessible from one piece of hardware, sooner than later.
(which still doesn't change OBVIOUS gaming history lol - in regard of whats likely worthy of ones time)

yes console exclusives are good, but emulators eventually (years at times) get through to pc's etc so always nice to have a pc, plus the very obvious, pc gamers have been using true hd resolutions for the last 7 years or more at 60+ fps, consoles cant even manage that today in some cases.

PC gamers do feel let down constantly by piss poor console ports, and pc games are pretty much always cheaper.

No end of companies have made inferior pc games or hidden settings to hide the fact that on pc the games just look and feel much better (watchdogs hidden gfx settings etc).

in my mind consoles are inferior, much worse in power, much more restrictive (having to pay more to play your game online due to xbox live etc) and the games cost more. Plus using a mouse and keyboard for a shooter is miles miles better than a controller, and before people retort saying well racers etc are better with a pad...nearly all pc gamers who play that type of game will have a pad too. PC of course has a much higher initial cost, a good PC will be £1000-£1500, thats the cost of pretty much all the consoles, however can do a lot more than just play games, and to a degree can be upgraded to last 1.5-2 generations of console.

Consoles i feel are only good if you cant afford the higher initial cost of a PC, or if they are so unique and different like the wii (interactive games and the motion controllers makes for very amusing games).

1. You can't mod on consoles
2. Some games became shit because they were focused to work on consoles too

Mullins' comment about being part of a tribe is related of the cognitive biases to which we are subject. Another is that people rationalize their inadequate choices so that they feel better about the decision they made. Someone out there decided to go Xbone this time while most of his friends went with PS4 and he's rationalizing how awesome the exclusives he has are and other things instead of acknowledging that he wished he bought a PS4. (Note: I'm not saying Xbone is worse, this is just an example.)

But to me personally, most of the time I see console gamers and PC gamers arguing--when people are making serious points, not merely trolling--PC gamers tend to have a much better understanding of what advantages consoles have that PC games don't. Console gamers tend to not be quite as educated on the advantages of PC and the disadvantages of consoles, and vastly overstate the cost of a decent gaming PC.

Now, I'm exclusively a PC gamer, so obviously my anecdotes might be a little biased, but I see PC gaming converts all the time say about how cool this was or that was or how it wasn't as much as they thought or whatever. They're happy to have switched. And then obviously there are those who do both consoles and PC. But you know what comment I never see? I was a PC gamer and then I became a console gamer. I never see that. Maybe I have a selective memory.

Another thing is most people don't carry a PDA and a portable music player and a cellphone. They just carry a smartphone. I don't want an optical media player and a DVR and a game console and so on. I have a computer. I can do the things people typically do with their computer, as well as play games, watch movies and television shows via HDMI on my TV, listen to music, and so on. For me, a console is less convenient, less powerful, less awesome. It's a nice idea but an expensive redundancy. To me. Like an Amazon Fire TV stick, which I like. Or a Blu-ray player. And so on.

PC GLOOOOOOOOOOOORIOUS MASTER RACE