A post on how a user accuses Valve of breaking EU law. Interesting, huh?

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Dead Island at steam Russia site it too is censored version but it is cheaper than EU and US, you don't see people complaining about it.

1 decade ago
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Not many Russians speak English, that's not racist - it's true. Maybe do actually do complain, but in Russian sites. In fact, I would complain - I wouldn't want a censored edition. I would rather buy another game or save money for an uncensored edition than buying a censored one.

1 decade ago
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He has a point, steam store is notorious for having the weirdest values via region, but that is because of how the UK and EU differ in import regulation.

The best example is Australia which tariffs digital video games as boxed product thus increasing the price to much higher then priced otherwise. the Uk and Eu do similar things but the EU to more of an extent then the UK (which is not a full fledged member of the EU anyways)

1 decade ago
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Yea, unfortunately EU customers have to pay more. :/ I would've saved myself around 30 bucks if I would've bought games on US prices. :P Well, maybe less... I haven't spend much. Maybe 10-20 bucks.

1 decade ago
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Well if you are trying to buy dead island, you can buy it at gmg, here is my post the site is uk but have same price for each games no matter the region. If you are not talking about Dead Island try finding alternate source or redeemable keys from sites such as GamersGate, Direct2Drive, GreenMan Gaming etc, etc. Also, You can always ask your friend (who lives in US) to gift you the game you want and you pay him/her equal amount of price. I did that for some of my friends.

1 decade ago
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No, I didn't mean that. Thanks for the information though. :)
I meant that I don't have much money and so I haven't invested much into my Steam account - <40€ over a year. Don't get me wrong - I want a lot of games, I love games.
And by that I meant that I could've bought one or two extra games, if I would've bought them cheaper, though at the time - I didn't know about other sites, I was social only with people from my country as I had a big gaming community. However they don't believe in games for which you have to pay for, most of them doesn't speak English, and they aren't actually interested in many other games than CS:S. After I stopped paying for server hosting, I started to play other games, and socialize a bit, which revealed other sites to me.

1 decade ago
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While steam may do weird pricing in regions, they are in no way violating any law (like he states)

1 decade ago
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Actually not quite true.. The EU requires that any member of the union can purchase goods in any other part of the union without discrimination.. This was settled a long time ago when people in the UK started buying cars in germany because they were cheaper and the dealers refused to service them..

Steam is preventing EU members from buying from the UK store, this is a violation of EU law.

1 decade ago
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Actually no, the law you are referring to is the Distance selling directive (97/7/EC) and its application towards digital property is never stated and thus it legally cannot be applied. This is being referenced from http://www.eu-consumer-law.org/consumerstudy_part2e_en.pdf Page: 4. Unless that is changed there is no violation.

1 decade ago
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As far, as I'm concerned - there is no real violation. Although from the buyer point-of-view, it's a big violation to me. But since it's legal and applicable due to the taxes - we can't do much except get banned from Valve forums for ranting about the unfairness, like that guy did.

1 decade ago
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On top of that, valve is US based thus does not have to follow EU regulations.

1 decade ago
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The problem with this is that it actually isn't a UK store, it's the US store with different pricing depending on your IP address.

1 decade ago
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why post a link to some shitty website no one cares about? here is the proper link

1 decade ago
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How else will he get hits on his blogspamming website if he didn't spam this forum with blogspam?

Edit: He doesn't have ads, though.

1 decade ago
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No, I do not have any ads, and I am not planning on adding any.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not blog-spam. I post links to my articles, reviews, opinions, etc.. A blog-spam would be if I would copy content from elsewhere and post links to my site (most likely wouldn't include any source links in my post too) instead of a short review what you will see at the linked site which you can skip if you aren't interested.

1 decade ago
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That's his website.

1 decade ago
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i know that now loool

1 decade ago
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Yea, I get that you don't like my site. But if you don't like it, wouldn't it be more logical to skip my threads instead? Would save some time and energy, so it's good for you too, you know.

1 decade ago
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Well the thing is, you aren't telling people that it leads to your blog, and you're not providing an alternate link for those who don't want to visit it. Not everyone follows what you post, so in a way it could seem like you're trying to get people just to go there. I for instance don't, and was expecting it to lead to the actual article, till I read the first comment.

If you want to get people to visit your blog, fine. But you should at least give them the choice to visit or not by notifying them and giving the link directly to what you're referring to. Otherwise you will get people being angry because they expected you to link to the article, and not try to grab unsuspecting visitors to your blog.

For example you could have done it somewhat like this:

A post on how a user accuses Valve of breaking EU law. Interesting, huh? (Have a post link to the original) If you guys are interested, read my opinion on this here. (Having here linked to your blog.)

This way you can still promote your blog, and not 'trick' people into visiting it.

1 decade ago
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Hm, perfectly valid point. Didn't think of that... I will to so next time. Thanks for the advice.

1 decade ago
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Wow. Bit harsh. saying 'Shitty' Website. Dont see you doing any better

1 decade ago
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He's just angry that it's another instance of the internet not preventing itself from being seen by kids.

1 decade ago
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EU prices at steam is more expensive than in US steam, for example if a game costs 50$, EU poeple must pay same price and its 50 euros for game, but 1$ and 1 euro have diffrent currency nad i think it cannot be same price as in US steam store

1 decade ago
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Just a minor point, but all Steam prices are not set by Valve corporation but by the respective developers and publishers (respectively) who sell their games on Steam. This includes any regional pricing. Some sell games at retail parity, despite the fact that they end up taking a lower cut in their profits per copy anyway.

Developers who sell games at higher prices in the various regions likely do so, simply because they can get away with doing so, because that is the norm and they see no reason to make less than they could. Accusing Valve is a little bit silly, the point should actually be raised with Tech Land or Deep Silver.

1 decade ago
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True, however I think Valve should force developers/publishers set fair price to everyone.

1 decade ago
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They would get to sell less games that way, why would Valve do it? It's not profitable...

1 decade ago
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True, however it might attract more customers thus making more money. Nowadays it's easy to brainwash consumers.

1 decade ago
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True, but it's harder to get customers when you have hundreds less games. I doubt the big companies would actually let that happen.

1 decade ago
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The publisher sets the price not valve and by European law, it is not illegal for them to fuck us up the ass like that. I have written (among others) to the European Commission about this issue and you can read their reply in the below link.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HE2bxzQkpaXiG1XzKdubepNhugB6zO_8xPMxu7vKuHE/edit?hl=en_US&authkey=CJK-1vkJ

1 decade ago
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1 decade ago
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Sorry about that. Use this link: http://bit.ly/n48fN5

1 decade ago
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Closed 1 decade ago by Mysterious.