Hi all, just a short question.

Whenever a game is revoked by the dev comments pop up that this will leave a permanent black mark on the owners Steam account.
Has anybody any proof, any hard facts that this is indeed true or is this all mumbojumbo?

Please no "I think"-answers ^^ Thank you!

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Id you won a game, marked as recieved and now its gone how its gonna look on sgtools ?

5 years ago
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Valve can see it forever, but they don't care.

5 years ago
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I'm not sure I understood your question xD
If game revoked u will have permanent mark on your account that oneday game was revoked

5 years ago
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That I know :)
But there are claims around the net that something might happen due to this. For example, 50 revoked games, account is no longer reliable or is seen as a scammer account, the ability to purchase will be disabled or something like that.

I don't think that this is true but I don't know for sure either, so that's why I asked.

5 years ago
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After 50 revoked games Gaben will break into your home and steal your TV. Hasn't this been established already? :P

5 years ago
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With the current mess around Simple Story-Alex and the associated dlcs I would think that the gifters of these products would be asking for the giveaway to be deleted. The dev has done a mass revoke which will affect thousands of people (some winners and some gifters on SG) and I am not sure how this will end up. But just leaving a not received on your account is possible. The winner in this circumstance may agree to deletion, which makes the issue go away.

5 years ago
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I'm talking about steam accounts, not what happens here at SG :) But thank you for your input!

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oh, as far as I know - a game revocation simply removes the licence from your account. No further action is taken and no black marks on your account. This is the case when a steam account has aquired a key from somewhere other than steam itself. If you buy a game from Steam itself and there is some issue with your payment I believe you get a warning and if the problem of monies owed is not sorted within 30 days Steam locks your account.

Multiple revokes ...well, no clue. Have had two so far myself.

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Thank you for your answer :)

5 years ago
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Is it visible? Yes.
Does it have any consequences? No proof for that yet.
Will it have at some point? You never know with Valve.

5 years ago
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Thanks. Your answer is exactly what I am thinking to myself.
Which is kinda bad, because it leaves the door open that accounts with too many revoked games could be in trouble somewhere down the line.
Could.
Will it ever happen? I doubt it, but I don't think it is 100% impossible.

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Will someone somewhere get into trouble for having had games revoked? Sure, it will and have happened.
Should normal and basically honest users worry about getting a game revoked? Nope, no need to worry at all.

Would multiple revoked games on the account change things? Yes, probably, but not in the sense that the risk of getting into trouble is much higher but the account would probably be reviewed for suspicious activities at some point.

5 years ago
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Mainly a difference between 1000s of users having the same bundled game revoked VS same user having 1000s of games they bought with stolen card revoked, I'd say.

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Good point.

5 years ago
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Exactly. An account being flagged for getting a game revoked is, by itself, not a problem, it may end up with someone checking it out at some point but the risk of it leading to any consequences, for you as a regular user, if it's a matter of a single, or maybe even a handful (if you have a huge library), games and you have a long and virtually spotless account history otherwise is practically 0. Only way it would cause you any problems is if your compounded account history combined with this particular revoked game somehow appears suspicious.

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I believe, what you are asking about is the reputation of your account if you had multiple games revoked from your account. Much like multiple vac bans on Steam. No, I do not have an answer to that. What needs to put into consideration, is also how/where did you get your copy of the game. Legit Resellers or Grey Sites, through a scam or malicious attempts, phishing?

Should normal and basically honest users worry about getting a game revoked? Nope, no need to worry at all.

As mentioned by @Ravenleft if you did not do any suspicious activity nor attempt any malicious acts on others you should have a case. I only deal with Fanatical, Indiegala, Humble mostly. Now thinking about it, games that you won on SG may come from a suspicious claim. As long as you have "proof" that was not or never your intention, I believe you have a case. I do not believe that is much to worry about it at this point. This is not as grey as the dealings of the grey site.

Now, see, I did not use "I think" but "I believe" instead. ;) Whats written is my own opinion so you may determine whether its useful.
Merry Holidays and Cheers, Cruse~

5 years ago
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Thank you very much for your input :)
Now, I don't see myself in danger, at all. At least not at this time. As i have quiet a lot of games and revocations become more and more frequent, my account will have more of those in the future without me ever doing something shady. So the thought lingers somewhere in the back of my mind, hence this topic ;)

5 years ago
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Well, well, the more you learn from these threads. I did not know some of the restrictions before reading this thread. "Revoked games may cause card drops to be restricted"? What? O__O I never knew that, nor I had ever got a game revoked but I did remove games by myself. Thank you for making the thread and I understand your concerns. I've kept most if not all of my emails of receipt for payment, just in case things like that will come back and bite me right into my butt.
Regards and Cheers~

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Since nobody seems to have mentioned it yet: Revoked games might be among the criteria that determine if card drops are restricted (thus taking an extra 2 hours before Trading cards start dropping) on an account. Pretty sure that's all there is to it.

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Good point!
My account is restricted for years due to me refunding a purchase, so cards only drop after two hours. I can deal with that and it doesn't hinder me at all. Although I don't know if a refund still restricts card drops since there was no reasont to refund a game since then.

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This has no effect on card drops.
Was affected by a revoke yesterday and today played a game with Cards. They are still droping before the 2h mark

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Valve does not care. There are no algorithms that will limit your account after X number of revoked games.
If you get a game revokal, usually you get the card restriction though, so cards will only drop after 2 hours for Y number of weeks. It will "heal" itself eventually.
Mind you, this happens also when you yourself remove a game from your account or request it from support. Also, if you refund a game. So it is rather normal card farm abuse prevention.

There may changes be in the future, since Valve firmly believes that whatever problem comes up, just adding an algorithm that automates something a human should do will always solve the problem, but right now they only limit the access to anything that involves spending money at them when it is fearful that it may end up a court/criminal case (and lawyers cost money even for them).

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This has no effect on card drops.
Was affected by a revoke yesterday and today played a game with Cards. They are still droping before the 2h mark

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Well, if that's true then people who do tons of beta testing for games would be in trouble as a number of publishers simply revoke beta keys once testings are over.

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I think that's a question all garbage-tier bundle purchasers have been wondering... :)

I'm also curious if key revocation can leave a black mark on the developer's own account... :)

Say I am a developer trying to get rich on Steam, so I make a "game" and sell a bunch of keys to a bundle site. Several months later I decide I got scammed / realise I made a bad deal / changed my mind / woke up on the wrong side of the bed / had a meltdown / whatever. So, obviously, I revoke all the keys. :)

What happens to me, the key revoking developer, the next time I request a batch of keys? When I make a new "game", will Valve say here you go, have fun! Or would they refuse to give me a large batch of keys a second time?

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