There is a Russian version already, but it is well hidden xd
The previous faq had more translations thanks to volunteers http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/91wob/faqrules-and-guidelines
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Seeing there are already some votes for Russian FAQ, which already exists, I just want to facepalm so hard.
Also: ПОСОНЫ, ЧаВо и КОВОДСТВО НА РУССКОМ УЖЕ ЕСТЬ!!!!
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There is a pop-up notice when you make your first giveaway but some either completely ignore it or are too stupid to understand.
The problem is with how dumb and brain-damaged many people seem to be. The site policies and the way certain things function need to be changed. Translations won't make much difference, if any. You can pretty much forget about these sort of things ever getting addressed or properly fixed though. Will never happen with the way things are run around here.
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FAQ was tasrslated to a lot of languages during SGv2 beta, but cg dropped the idea. Also - most of creators of fake GAs, regifters and other ppl "who don't know it's like that" don't bother reading it at all anyway.
As for languages - polish ;p Poland is 3rd biggest country community on SG, and a lot of them have problems speaking english...
(btw - all SG regions by users: http://www.steamgifts.com/stats/community/regions )
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this link os for an old version of FAQ. FAQ was rewritten from a scratch on SGv2 beta, done so mainly by betatesters themselves, and some of these beta testers (incl me ;p) translated it to their languages as well. The link you provided has translation of 3+ years old version of FAQ, I'm talking about 10+ translations of the newest version that was designed for SGv2.
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Ohh I see now. I failed there :D
Anyway I believe there can be, if not should, a translated FAQ at least to the most common languages. It may not prevent people from creating fake giveaways because these people don't even bother to read the FAQ, but if someone's English are not the best it may help them
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I agree, but I may also see the reasoning from the other side. Having a support for more languages could make people start using this languages across the community (we already discussed language-subforums in beta and decided against it, as it would divide the community) and make people use Support in languages they think are supported, because after all you have FAQ in them ;p It would then force support to rely on things like google translate, help from other SG users who are native speakers in these language and would finally make their response timers even slower than they already are.
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Well it could be mentioned that the support is only supported in English and so is the Forum, but yeah I can see your point. All these are useless, I WANT A SPAM TOPIC!
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as it was said, by you as well, in this topic - people do not read. Or even if they do read a lot of them will see the wall of text FAQ is will just glance at it without properly reading it through - so they may never actually read the part where you say Support tickets are english only, but seeing FAQ supporting multi-languages will assume they're fine :>
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there was a German FAQ already written in v2 beta ;) as well as polish and quite a few more, but in the end cg decided not to include them, so I don't see why he would do so now ;) If he wanted to he still has all our translations from beta, so he could easilly use these anytime ;)
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I can offer my help translating it in romanian, if you ever decide that you need my help with this, just add me and send me a message, I will be glad to offer my help to the nicest community around.
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it won't happen - FAQ was translated to many languages in SGv2 beta, I believe including Romanian as well, but cg dropped the idea before launch and decided not to include it.
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Well, I just said in case, he had a point when he decided to not include it, guys that don't know english will not even bother to scroll to their language to read the FAQ..People are so lazy nowadays, and when they see a bigger text they instantly skip it...Well, have a good day zel!
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Estonian because there was a guy with Estonian flag as his profile pic who complained about not winning while he had only entered 28 giveaways. I feel ashamed for my country ;-;
Basically nobody in this community speaks Estonian though, I guess :P
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Russians, Portugal(for Brazilians), Polish, Turks, Arabs, all bunch of noobs :)
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f.u... and only shortly after I unblacklisted you... ;p
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He has a point though - his country has Tupac alive still making rap magic, you can't compare with that.
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ahahaha <3 sorry If I offended you, but most people I meet or play online I find those stated above as biggest noobs.
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it's only so because a lot of ppl don't realize how many polish/russian/turkish etc players they meet online. If I didn't have a country flag on my steam profile would you guess from the form of my forum posts I'm a pole? Would you guess Sleepy is russian based only on his english skills? As for Turks - back in a days when I was playing WoW I played a few months in international guild. Ofc ppl were having different accents, but I did not notice until 3-4 months later that over 1/3 of the group were Turks (in the past they merged with turkish guild, so a lot of turks remained in guild). The fact is that you meet a lot of non-native speakers online and in most cases you won't even realize it from their writing. You may from their accent if you're using VoIP, but then again what nation will not have their specific accent when speaking english? :>
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Actually Poland is fine. Top 10 most proficient countries.
EF English Proficiency Index
Rank Country EF EPI
1 Sweden 68.91
2 Denmark 67.96
3 Netherlands 66.32
4 Finland 64.37
5 Norway 63.22
6 Belgium 62.46
7 Austria 62.14
8 Hungary 60.39
9 Germany 60.07
10 Poland 59.08
11 Czech Republic 58.90
12 Singapore 58.65
13 Malaysia 57.95
14 India 57.49
15 Switzerland 57.39
16 Slovakia 56.62
17 Pakistan 56.03
18 Spain 55.89
19 Portugal 55.39
20 Argentina 55.38
21 South Korea 55.35
22 Japan 55.14
23 France 54.28
24 Italy 54.01
25 Hong Kong 53.65
and just for giggles here are your noobs:
29 Russia 52.78
32 Turkey 51.19
46 Brazil 46.86
49 United Arab Emirates 45.53
52 Saudi Arabia 44.60
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The test takers were self-selected and no demographic information was collected on them.Meaning the test group is nonrepresentative and so are test results.
This only proof that amongst people who believe to speak good-quality english, this quality is not bad indeed, but says nothing about an average language skill among whole society.
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Is true.
Gamers generally are the people who believe they're good in English though.
Those best in English have the same charisteristics as the typical gamer demographic:
male, age 25-35, living in urban area, higher education.
So I still like to think it gives an okay indication thanks to this 'corrective' skewing.
And who doesn't like to shit on the French and their 23th place huehuehue
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well, while gamers may have higher than avg english skills I believe that in polish example they are not as good as for many other countries. A lot of polish gamers, especially younger ones, only play with other polish gamers. The reason why for example there are (or used to be, idk - quited several years ago) so many massive polish guilds in MMOs is because majority of polish players don't want to join international guilds. Other examples - games without polish localization sell much weaker on polish market. another example, this time from SG - look here it's old version of Polish FAQ back from SGv1 - a lot of these comments are poles asking basic questions because they are unable to read FAQ. Another example? 2 days ago I won a game from a fellow pole, he added me on steam, delivered and then asked "holy shit - how do you win so much" - so i started explaining him about different forms of GAs - to try to solve puzzles, be active in community to get into groups and people's whitelists etc - his reaction? He cannot because his english skills are very basic, he can understand easiest things like "enter to win" but easy puzzle or group recruitment topic would take him "~20minutes to translate and understand" according to his words. Ofc there are a lot of polish users who speak perfect or at least very decent english, but with quite a few having really basic problems it's hard for me to believe Poland to be 10th best english speaking (excluding native-speakers) nation in the world :D:
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I didn't have to read it. It's pretty much common sense. "Don't throw a stone if you live in a glass house" Yet there are still kids who lacks that common sense. Thus the FAQ exist solely for them.
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You can suggest that the ip (location) will be used to make the site in your "native" lang...
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I'd rather have it manually switched in account options. It's already bad enough for me that Steam browser client keeps switching back from english to polish every few days...
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+1 so hard. I had my OS installed in English only, and it still has traces of Polish in some dark corners. The most annoying one is the Nvidia control panel, which refuses to show up as a program in the Start Menu, and as such doesn't allow me to rename it. Because of this, I can't right-click on Geforce experience in the system tray and open the control panel from there, because it searches for the english name. ugh... Manual settings are usually better.
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heh, good thing for me then that I'm running AMD ;) No matter the OS language it's always called AMD Catalyst (or AMD Gaming something, whatever they renamed it into ;p)
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Whatever languages you do, make sure to make the highest ones in terms of Steam demographics.
Also, I've never even noticed the Russian FAQ and the button to get there. I'd suggest putting a flag somewhere there, since they are eye-catchers.
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Steam demographics =/= SteamGifts demographics ;p
http://www.steamgifts.com/stats/community/regions
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You're right, my mistake. Also, what are the odds of us replying to our other respective posts? ;p
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