I think most people can agree that the police officer that killed George Floyd is guilty but violent protests are the worst thing you can do. All I see now are videos of businesses being burnt down and looted that have NOTHING TO DO with the actions taken against George Floyd. It's sad to see a small business owners mangled corpse outside on the ground after being beat to death because he was trying to stop rioters from destroying his business. Honestly, I don't even think these people are rioting for George Floyd, I think it because they want an excuse to steal and harm others. Protest peacefully and be reasonable.

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it's great that people are pissed off about the killing of an unarmed man in handcuffs, but rioting, looting and attacking cops isn't the correct way to do it. they're only making it even worse for themselves.

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Advice: This text long + my english bad,up to who want to read or not, i not care.

This not happen because 1 police man,1 black man or even some gangs\activists do riots, these are only excuses.
The truth is More years ago, Bill Gates , advice already humans about the dangerous of the absence of investments in laboratory for create vaccines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI
( as i said already in 29 january 2020 )
https://twitter.com/iTA360COM/status/1222502513737457664
Governs,Countries in all world,for many than 10 years,
use their money for make wars,weapons etc.
instead of use money for create Machines Lung Air , Vaccines , Hospitals,train doctors for pandemic situations and virus managment etc.
So we reach then at the point that when the virus hit us,we are not ready,
virus spread more fast that we can build hospitals,buy machines,find doctors and we don't know how to manage the situation too (maybe send infected people in common hospital that so infect others people too,or send joung people infected to meet old people in old people houses etc.)
All this then cause people problem mental issue,health issue,criminals\mafia\opposite politicians\media start to abuse about the situation for try stolen the govern place so then try to make jails revolts,riots etc.

in a "normal" situation,if a police man kill one innocent man, the police man go to jail , finish , people not go around all country make protest , and if they do it is mean is not a normal situation , but not normal situation is created by someone is not casual , maybe media , maybe other countries bioweapons etc.

and if racism exist,in some brain of people,is given by ignorance or fear of the unknow or miss of information , is the govern that must care to do the right things for teach to people why we must live in harmony all togheder because we are all humans born in the same planet , and people is not what they show,but is what they do... a good human is a good human no matter if him is green,blue,yellow,red,black,white or even violet LOL and no matter if him is buddist,cattholic,muslim or if stand for one soccer team or another or whatever fanatism or opinion,who good is good,who bad is bad,is actions show who good and who bad,not from where come or color skin or fanatism various.

BUT in a society where who is at the Power\Govern is the First that use "Nationalism" "Racism" and "Hate" words (Kim that tell shit to Trump or Russia that tell shit back to China or Brasil and so on...) how we can think or expect from "normal" population that they is Good or Perfect if first who is on power,govern don't give the right example

Without to talk about the Medias , full of False\Bad things (all music\movie videos full of Mafia Bosses, Weapons , Drugs,People Famous etc.) by brainwash the mind of the people with all this shit...

And then we feel confuse to see if people do stupid ?
like go in road for get covid19 or a bullet from a protester or military and risk to die ?

it's normal... with the nations\governs we have right now,that only think about money and power,you make a population people that follow you then in this...

We must so instead learn people to life Real life,in good and harmony,take care first health,mental,security etc. and then after think about business.

Covid19 only accelerate the time of the problems that countries already have

NO Work is a problem already exist since long time ago after the automatizations start (this bill gates advice too)
Health care Hospitals same...
Weapons in hand of civil people (not military) too...
Deaths for Smokes Cancer Drugs Alchool etc. too

But instead to invest money for protect people from these bad things,we still invest money on things that do bad to humans like industries that kill humans with cancer,pollution,damage nature for business and so on..

if our Leaders , instead of talk about Love, and how much is important the only 1 life we have and the time too , still instead talk only about Power,Money,First Me i hate others etc. is not good for people and then problems happen.

IF then do this,add a deatlhy virus that come it accelerate the time of all problems happen.

This said,in all this s***t , we can choose where to stand
in Happyness , Respect, Armony and Love,that is the reason why our Mom\Dad give us the precious gift of Life and we still alive and Humans Or in Sadness,Hate,Disprect etc. that for sure is not the reason why human born or exist , but sometime more people is not love himselph first and the others after too, to understand it.

Anyway for fix this problem is very easy

Helicopter money to all people + Free Videogamesto to all and problem finish , or instead of do riots better we go all inside bill gates house then problem finish for sure have vaccine,games,money and all 🤣

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You're dead on when you say they're just using his death as an excuse to do the shitty things they're doing.

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it's ok because i'm already die when i see this https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/753/603420-Her-Man "HerMan" 🤣 so i'm already in the outerworld i wait shaokan or shentsung munnncome then i'm ready 😂
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The Shifty https://store.steampowered.com/app/359840/Shift_Happens/ Happen Things 🤣
-"Hey cortana,remember me"
"what i must remember?"
-"i must to die"
"oh f***c!" 😅

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It's almost as if a few malicious, bad actors can blemish a group as a whole.

In case the nuance is lost, this applies to both protestors AND police.

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anyway that lady sexy that dance in road protest is delicious malicious hahaha , if protes is always like that i hope have + hahaha

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what sexy dance :D? LINK OR FAKE!

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you must:
1 Disable filter sensitive adult contents
2) go here https://twitter.com/search?q=riots%20dance&src=typed_query
3) be fast to click before twitter remove video
Many have every 1 hour also with thousands of people dance

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cant find it :(

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Maybe your internet service provider,or govern or something censure the content on your surf web or you not fast enough to click for see then twitter people share it delete (may have many reasons people,copyright music,sexy etc.).

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It's almost as if a few malicious, bad actors can blemish a group as a whole.

The pigeon-holing of individuals into "groups."
The idea that all individuals within a "group" have similar ways of thinking and behaving.
The "Us" versus "Them" mentality.

It all sounds so very familiar. So much effort goes into separating people into "groups," and all the while, the fact that everyone is part of one single group (Humanity) is relegated to the dustbin. It certainly seems like someone is trying to instigate a fight instead of a solution.

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Turns out if you treat people as subhuman for years and deny them any voice through voting or peaceful protest they get angry at their oppressors

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What the fuck are you even trying to say, Khalaq? Most of what you wrote is just hot air.

Yes, we are all part of one humanity. I've been a big proponent of "Team Human" for a long time. That is exactly what many peaceful protests over the past few years have been about, see: NFL anthem kneeling.

When peaceful protest doesn't work, violence ensues. This isn't supporting violent actions, it's simply the truth of humanity and its history as a whole. If your government doesn't acknowledge peaceful protest on equal footing, then it's "us" versus "them" whether you want it to be or not.

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What the fuck are you even trying to say, Khalaq? Most of what you wrote is just hot air.

TL; DR: People should be dealt with as individuals, not as groups.

When peaceful protest doesn't work, violence ensues.

"Peaceful protest" will never work if it is never tried. The vast majority of people in this world have been taught neither how to make themselves "heard," nor how to initiate societal change. Violence takes zero skill to implement, and when you only see one option available, that is the option you end up choosing.

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P.S. ("Peaceful protest" will never work if it is never tried. The vast majority of people in this world have been taught neither how to make themselves "heard," nor how to initiate societal change. Violence takes zero skill to implement, and when you only see one option available, that is the option you end up choosing.)

...and what did I just say?

That is exactly what many peaceful protests over the past few years have been about, see: NFL anthem kneeling.

For real, I think you just like hearing yourself speak.

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...see: NFL anthem kneeling.

The NFL anthem kneeling is/was an example of people "not knowing how to make themselves heard." In other words, it barely even qualifies as "peaceful protest."

  1. It was ineffectual as a vehicle for the intended message.
  2. It was executed in a manner which actually exacerbated the problem instead of alleviating it.
  3. It never actually addressed the problem it was intended to address.

I could go on, but I believe I have already made my point, here.

For real, I think you just like hearing yourself speak.

No, not really. I am a bit disappointed that you are not grasping what I am attempting to communicate, but I suppose that is due to my weakness in getting my message across.

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I am a bit disappointed that you are not grasping what I am attempting to communicate, but I suppose that is due to my weakness in getting my message across.

No, it's due to you trying to say something that doesn't need to be said.

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it's strange that media (and then follow people ) use the word looting , instead of stolen or thief or like this , it's same if they want make people think do it is funny.
Also i see people on twitter (one woman very big have white thsirt) on broken shops she stolen estetic lights , why she just not build leds lights or solar light they can be find also in rubbish or is very cheap,no reason to stolen these things... the hell the brain say to this people,i think they lose head\eyes status,they not stolen for "need" stolen for "desire" all stupid things ,strange.

Another video people broken windows shop take food trow in road ;(
this is not good have people homeless can eat that save life but they trow in road ;(
what protest is this,people with shop have no fault,broken shop for what i not understand,very not good ;(
very sad this ;( can give food homeless people save life homeless,but they instead trow food at road ;(
the hell ;( i stop see , mad this is no respect for poor people not have food ;(

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I agree with you about non violent protest in principle, but I also think that you are oversimplifying the situation. It's pretty clear by now that this isn't just another localized incident of racial injustice sparking outrage and protest, but has become a major conflagration spreading throughout the country. There's rage here and it's not really hard to understand. People who had very little before the pandemic, now have nothing - no jobs, no health care, no unemployment - or else they have shitty "essential" jobs for which they are underpaid, overworked and unprotected. They don't get to telecommute from home and order carloads of crap from Amazon. This was already a powder keg waiting to blow and now here come the police bringing yet another incident of entrenched racial violence. The other part of the equation besides the institutionalized racism in play here is that the police in America have been highly militarized and aggressive and they look upon and treat people of color and poor people in general as The Enemy. Their job is to protect Karens and wine moms and hedge fund managers from the deplorables and make sure they don't interfere with them or try to take their stuff.
Yes, small businesses being trashed and looted is terrible. People getting hurt, also terrible. There are gangs involved - they are even robbing the looters - and for all we know there may be agitators too. But Walmart and Target? They'll survive. Police station burnt to the ground? - some might say the message got to the right recipient on that one. Can't say that it makes me sad. It may seem like I condone the violence, but I don't. I just recognize you can't push people down this far and expect them to go to a town hall meeting or sign a petition. I think it's important to understand that of all the conditions that contributed to and caused this storm, not one of them was created by the participants - it all comes from the top down. And I find it very difficult to blame them.

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Help reverse the brainwashing, share this video and help save our black friends. https://youtu.be/UQCQFH5wOJo

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PragerU? Seriously, as someone who does not live in the US and may not understand all the ins and outs of our media bias and spin, you may want to look elsewhere for your "facts".
Edit: Here's a link so you can see exactly what you have been looking at here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU#Critiques_of_videos

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Hey thanks for the insight. I must admit that I am not familiar with PragerU. Maybe because of this you unfortunately outright dismissed the "facts" in the video. But if you payed attention you would see that these facts actually came from a black Harvard Economics Professor who probably knows how to read statistics better than most people. Other statistics come from the Washington Post and a recent study from the Department of Justice. Open your mind, give it a fair shot and spread the video with your friends, if you care about black lives offcourse.

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Nope. I did not dismiss the facts. I actually read several of the source articles in order to determine how these facts were cherry picked and spun, and to see which facts were conveniently omitted. If you are sincere about keeping an open mind, i suggest you do the same.

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Can I ask what your intentions are? The video proclaims that many more people die by other black people and backs it up with solid proof which you can find in many reputable sources, including FBI crime statistics https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
I think any open minded and sane being can see this is irrefutable. Perhaps you are not as open minded as you claim yourself to be and that's fine if you can live with it, but it is a dangerous mindset at the same time since it is the same mentality that causes death of many innocent children.

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The video is trying to make a case for US police not being racist based on cherry picked data ie just shootings, leaving everything else like excessive force, racial profiling, traffic stops etc conveniently by the wayside all of which is specifically mentioned in the article about Roland Fryer's study. It's egregious right wing think tank bullshit. If you can't be bothered to read the actual sources behind it, I really would prefer to be done talking about this.

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I agree with you there. Excessive force is being used way more against minorities. Lets assume it is mostly, if not 100% white cops being the aggressive one. Is the only reason racism, it might very well be, but lets keep an open mind and not forget that it might be because black people are 8 times more violent than white people. It is not racist to point this out.
If someone is an alcoholic for example, the first step in helping is to acknowledge this. If we want to help black people we have to accept that they are more temperamental. Therefore the excessive forces might be justified, BUT maybe not.
Let us assume for argument sake that black people are targeted by police and that racism is the only factor in the equation, and that it justifies black people doing crime at 8 times the rates of white people. It still has no impact on the death numbers of black people being killed, neither by black people, nor by white cops. BLM and activists therefore are misguided and are not helping the cause of their brothers and sisters being murdered. I don`t see how more clear this point actually is, unless you really try your hardest to not understand this. I understand that in that case you prefer to be done talking as there is no point in this discussion at all. I wish you all the best regardles.

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I understand that you are trying to be cordial, and I appreciate that. Respectfully, it has become apparent to me that you don't have an understanding of the complexities of race relations in the US. You really do need to educate yourself a bit more and not rely on scurrilous youtube videos for your information. It's not my place to do that for you, but I will point out that several of your statements would be considered extremely racist by African Americans - particularly your entire second paragraph.
I think the crux of this disagreement is that you have misunderstood the objectives of BLM. Inner city violence by and between black people is not relevant to those objectives - it is a serious issue, but a separate one. BLM is concerned with the racially motivated, state sanctioned violence against and murder of black people. The numbers don't matter - one is too many, but there have been far more than one. Please do yourself a favor and read this article. It lays things out succinctly and the links are also worth your time. Also here's a link to BLM's mission statement, which should clarify matters.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2020/06/03/floyd-and-arbery-killings-modern-day-lynchings-column/5299931002/
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
I hope those prove helpful, and I wish you well, but this time, I really have to be done with this topic.

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Here comes the enlightened centrist.

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My personal opinion is that, while looters can not be defended in any way, shape or form, rioters have an understandable point.
There is a man who, instead of trying to incarnate a uniting figure as his function commands, puts every day fuel on the fire. Racism and police violence in the US has reached a point where riots are understandable.
I don't consider rioting a normal and good way of protesting. But there are also particular crisis and circumstances, when facts are so bad and repeting that people have no other choice for being heard than violent protests. It is sad, but accepting the unacceptable would be sadder.
It is my opinion and I respect different ones.

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'we gonna fight to the death for the peace'

What did that businesses do to George Floyd?

Same i was thinking about France and 'yellow jacket marches'. Why they burn someones cars, why they break someones business windows, why they fight against politicians this way?

Go burn this policeman house, go steal his car(i still think its not good, but if u need to destroy something....) but the hell-dont destroy innocent ppl property!

On the otrher hands:
When black man call white 'white' and punch him for being white-its not racism and its okay
When white man call black 'black' and punch him for being black='omegle!11!11 THATS RAC1SM!11!!!'

So lets not talk about racism here, as both whites/blacks are racists

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Hahaha, violent protesting, here in South Africa it's bad.

People would throw policemen with rocks and come in droves, and the wors is that when these violent protests happen it is almost always black people so the officers need to just take it, if they get aggressive or hell even defend themselves it gets seen as them being racists, even if the officer is black... the country is a shit show.

And then you get your general idiots who want to travel on a train for free, so what do they do? They burn the train down... because that makes sense...

And then the same case for colleges, "we want free college" so they burn the college down... logic?

Oh and the funniest one, they protested that they should get their first year of college for free because they won't be able to pay for the second year ... bitch if you can't pay the first year how the hell you gonna pay the second year XD. And HOW is that the government's problem?

It isn't really a race thing in South Africa, though everyone would say it is, its more a class thing, people in the lower classes are the one's protests like this and burning shit down, attacking emergency supply trucks and stealing malls clean. Unfortunately because of the populations race %, it is mostly black people that are doing this solely because they are the majority. And that's why its always "racist" -_-.

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Imo, this is a bit off topic but, I think the poeple who are protesting about covid19 lockdowns and how it's 'fake' are also just as bad.

But I agree, protesters should protest peacefully in every situation. I had saw a video about protesters protesting for climate change in the middle of Paris on a bridge which was one of the busiest street there. They stopped all traffic from passing that bridge(I believe it was in rush hour as well), so the police sprays tear gas to the protesters. But ofc, the video only shows the part where the police was spraying tear gas which shows how context is always important, the comments shows a lot of hate towards the police (I also think that spraying tear gas isn't the best option for police to do). This is getting derailed so I'm going to stop here. Protests should be peaceful and shouldn't affect anybody, this includes blocking traffics too.

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This only causes more problems, more violence, gives racists motivation, makes other racist and continues the cycle. Idiots.

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Murica has a lot of problems, more than other countries because Murica is rather big.
Big country, big problems.

The balloon called 'frustrations' needed something to pop it.
Floyd was a great needle.
I think not all protesters are violent, they just go along with it from fear of being seen as 'different' by the violent ones.
Regardless, once the army is deployed in towns the mess will calm down.

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Well that's one balloon down, over 9000 more to go.

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I think not all protesters are violent, they just go along with it from fear of being seen as 'different' by the violent ones.

Are the violent ones the majority? Or the peaceful ones? Do we have numbers on this? From what I read there are many peaceful protests. But I guess we see more of the violent ones in our news coverage.

I don't think deploying the army is a good idea. Considering how the police is already completely mishandling the situation (attacking peaceful protesters and journalists), the army has the potential to make it a lot worse.

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Are the violent ones the majority? Or the peaceful ones?

Hell if i know, i think even official statements will be manipulated to suit their political agenda.
So, we can only trust accounts of people who actually were there when it was happening.

I don't think deploying the army is a good idea. Considering how the police is already completely mishandling the situation (attacking peaceful protesters and journalists), the army has the potential to make it a lot worse.

I was reading that it was already done, so whether it's a good idea or not matters little at this point.
Cops in Murica are a big problem, they should be protecting people not attacking them.
I think there is a problem in their training, Murica needs to re-work their entire police system with an emphasis on peaceful and gentle (if possible) approach to resolving problems.
Right now they seem to be trained to pull the gun whenever someone looks at them funny.
Also, they seem to be in need to be taught that you can put someone in a car without having to step on their neck, or plaster them all over the ground.

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Peaceful ones. How is that even a question. No numbers though but if rioters where majority, most the county would be burning by now.
And i know pretty much everyone destincts them, yet even so if you say "rioters" people will try correcting you not all protesters are rioters. Yeah, we know, that is why we said rioters :/
Just like most cops aren't bad or racists. But that doesn't stop people blanketing all.

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Of course. I tried to come across as unbiased. It was silly, forget it. For me it is very clear that the vast majority is peaceful protesters.

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Life comes at you really fast sometimes.

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The looters are clowns for sure. Are they "as bad"? Wouldn't say so. Don't get me wrong, this isn't to show how looters technically are good or something. They aren't. It's the cops who are just exceptionally awful this time around.

People get shot for being on their own property. Press gets shot. Press gets arrested. Press gets hit and pepper sprayed. Peaceful kneelers get literally knocked down, but then they just keep hitting them with their shields.

The police should be the opposite of that BY DEFAULT, while rioting is expected enough to have equipment for it. It's why the catholic church supporting child molesters is worse than some average citizen being one. One goes completely against their own mission statement and reason for existing while the other is just a pathetic monster.

In the end, both fucking suck. But it's just that one's committing a sin so bad that they literally turned themselves into a literal terrorist organization. The antithesis of their existence.

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All those people that use someone's death as an excuse to loot and break stuff should be sent to jail. Plain and simple. I may be angry about something and think something is unjust, but I don't go into the city to break shops and steal TVs. People frustration is not an excuse to destroy lives of bystanders. They are not as bad as someone killing someone else, but if you break someone's business (that took all life savings to start), you may very well force them into poverty that will end up in death.

I agree that US has a lot of issues, and "hidden" racism is a problem. But things that happen now are not justified. It's just bunch of morons that decided to blend with protesting crowd, and do whatever they like.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CA4mAgCFKIX/?igshid=1hrhskmuk242a

UK looks like less xenophobic country than Poland, and less racist than US. And still people were spitting on my team leaders, simply because they are not white but from Philippies. And some morons decided that people from Asia are responsible for COVID-19. I mean how can you walk to someone and spit into their face. But at least they did not go to their house to steal their car or burn their kid's business...

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I agree, see my post above. The people who support this shit are ones that are safe in their homes far away, their tune will quickly change when its their property and livelihoods on the line.

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see this too , the man at the right is owner shop , him very good , but people broken windows to him shop ;(
https://i.imgur.com/nR8dns7.jpg
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Looters will take any opportunity as smokescreen for profit.
But even while they are parasites essentially profiting from the death of George Floyd, giving a disproportionate amount of attention to the looters rather than the police repeatedly brutalising people even in situations that hadn't even escalated beyond standing demonstration? I find that equally concerning. Commerce can be restored, stock can be replenished, and while it is an unfair loss of profits to a company, none of that is remotely equivalent to the travesty of police point-blank firing a gas grenade into a solitary mans face after pepper spraying him, just because he was posturing, unarmed. Or trapping protesters against a wall and then sustaining LTL fire and teargas against them while they cannot disperse. Or the president brazenly talking about protecting the second ammendment rights against the riots, now of all times.

The looting is disgraceful, but the damage to businesses is absolutely nothing when contrasted with what other damage and threats are happening in tandem. Focusing overmuch on the looting (or in many other cases, trying to falsely equate the protests with the looters) is, in my opinion, incredibly tonedeaf and shortsighted.

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In my opinion, these protestors (those who looted, burned and killed owners) are just as bad as that policeman. I find actions of the police strange though. They killed that man, but let these rioters do all of that. They should have been dispersed, by force if needed. And maybe just throw both the policemen and violent protestors in jail for a few years, the other will think twice before repeating that. Otherwise, it'll just lead to more damage and deaths.

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What owners were killed by protestors? Destroying property is just as bad as murder?

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I saw somewhere that owners were killed.

And yes, they will burn your shop with you inside or outside, destroying your life.

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You're lazy, blacklisting me and demanding proof?

And they're not protestors, they're terrorists.

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I'm not lazy, you're just lying

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How can I show proof that something didn't happen?

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Well I didn't see killed owners (only beaten up unconscious), but there are people who shot another.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/30/us/detroit-man-shot-protests

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I looked for what I told, saw some news about owners almost killed.

The pawn shop owner did nothing wrong.

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I can explain. Local authorities decided that it was too dangerous for the police to do their jobs in areas of rioting. So they just sat back and let the neighborhoods burn. That is why the national guard had to be called in to do their jobs for them and try to restore order.
Here's an example of how police like to play "soldier" and treat US citizens standing on their own front porch.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA29Fb2J7hJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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But are they as bad as someone who double dips?

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Not only US protesting but Europe too.
Amsterdam (and again fuck corona offcourse, half aren't even wearing mouth protection).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/george-floyd-police-protests-london-berlin-toronto/2020/05/31/cf4485e8-a357-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html

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Spot the difference?

Yay ':D I've been there. Listening to the queen hold a speech after some nutcase drove his car into a farmers market. Well, that train of thought took a dark turn.

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No, but i did find Waldo. (Well atleast it's more peaceful, for now) still we are asking for a major lockdown this way (not just this protest but terraces and beaches being full).

There has been a screamer on the Dam which caused a massive panick and people got trippled over (think even someone dying).
Can't remember much about a car and a market, when was that?

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Can't remember much about a car and a market, when was that?

Looong time ago. I think it must have been 11 years ago because I recently came across my Youth Hostel card when cleaning up and I think it was dated 2009.
My only trip to Amsterdam so far. I was hanging with a guy from South America that day whom I met in Vondel park, right in front of my hostel. We were having a nice conversation and he felt bad I was missing my free walking tour through the red light district so he offered to show me around since he had been living in Amsterdam for like 10 years.

On the way there there was a huge commotion in front of the national gallery (?) (pretty close to Dam square) so we waited a couple of minutes and suddenly Queen Beatrix came out of the buiding and was escorted to nearby Dam square where she adressed the public. And there was a minute of communal silence.

I still feel a little bit guilty I never sent him the photos we took that day because he said he doesn't touch computers or use e-mail because his sister had been severly internet addicted and back then I didn't do analog post :/

I think it was probably this incident although that's not exactly how I remembered it but it was long time ago and I was just a tourist so I probably didn't understand completely what was going on.


Edit: For a moment I thought it might have been the Remembrance of the Dead ceremony one year later because that took place on Dam square and the queen attented it but there was no bomb panic or Stampede so that can't be it.

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May 4 we have that rememberance/memorial day.

That article in wiki did not happen in Amsterdam, but Apeldoorn, it happened on queensday when a man drove into a crowd/parade (even a child died) and eventually hitting his car against a stone statue (and killed himself) while a bus with the queen and the rest of the family drove nearby, it could have been his intention to hit the bus. The queen did held a speech on tv.
That may 4 thing they never skipped it once i believe, even now with corona our king still did it this year.

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The incident might have actually happened the day before. I remember I saw her coming out of the gallery and then there was a speech and a minute of silence on Dam square. I think she adressed the public from a balcony on town hall but it might have just been on a video wall. I suppose that would make sense due to safety concerns given there had been a recent attack.

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Yeah, must have been it because apart from christmas she seldom held a speech.
Just can't remember a minute of silence on the Dam though, only speech on tv the same day, around 16:00ish.

But my memory..i often barely know what i had for dinner last week or even yesterday. :p

Amsterdam is full with crazy people, and had many incidents, i wouldn't live there even for free.

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Thanks for the sad reminder our countrypeople are stupid.
Fact is, probably more than one person will die due to this demonstration, because of infection by COVID-19 :/

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Well as long as they are from that group who stood there and not anyone else. ;)
And the mayor getting away with it again (just as with the gun incident).

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Yeah, but since those are mostly young ignorant people the likelihood that all people who will die due to this rally never visited this rally is real.
And an even bigger rally happened in Rotterdam. This country is officially insane.
Bye bye any impression we ever took Corona serious.
Well, onto the next wave of deaths. Protest one dead person, kill MANY more. These people disgust me even more than the cop, and that's a lot already.

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Even those in Groningen which were more quiet still screwed the distancing (but you don't hear anyone saying that either. they rather focus on it being peaceful).
I think they will go on with these protests, also with the aid of Antifa (Erik van muiswinkel was ooit grappig, maar schijnt hun ook wel te mogen en iedereen die fvd stemt is een facist en nazi, die is ook gek geworden).
But to be fair on terraces and beaches people weren't taking distance either, heck even a shop like the Action i visited 3 times people were running through eachother like corona didn't even exist, and it's impossible with such small aisles.

This country already went down the drain with Balkenende, "one of the richest countries" yes why we do have food banks then, why do so many people go without breakfast to school? And we keep dumping billions to Spain, Italy and Greece.
Even with the corona Spain paid like 120 mil which is a bigger country, we paid like 190 mil over 17 mil inhabitants..

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That's a fact!

We truly live in a society

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More than 100k death through Covid-19 in the USA, but still some ppl mean to riot in these hard days!

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The problem with protests like this is that it's never the people who were genuinely protesting that start the riots. The lowest scum of the lowest go there to incite violence, cause mayhem and loot stores.

I've seen it happen in other incidents that had nothing to do with race. There are people who hijack protests purely out of being criminal. Sure, some of the less savory characters who happen to be there at the time might join in. Not every protestor is innocent. BUT... People then blame the innocent protestors who are a majority for something that is completely out of their hands. I have seen something like this unfold in Dublin, Ireland back in 2006. The riots were started by 2 people who went there with the intention of starting a riot and there was evidence to that fact. Both of them were arrested and charged along with a bunch of others. During that same incident, I remember hearing on the news that a pregnant woman was punched in the stomach. Just insanity.

I bet that 90% of the people involved in the violence right now are completely unrelated to and don't give a toss about the protest or the death of that poor guy. They just want to cause some mayhem.

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also undercover people trying to paint the protest as negative as they can so gobernment can use force to stop it, worst than the scums that just want to be violent

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Oh, probably. I've seen news reports that say that white supremacists and Antifa are both involved. Basically just extremist anarchists on both sides who want to watch the world burn.

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If you destroy property it shows you're mad. I can understand that as being a way to try and get attention (even though it's a horrible thing to do), but looting doesn't show you're angry, it shows you want free stuff.

The looters are just petty thieves taking advantage of the situation, and should be treated as such by both the good people involved in these demonstrations as well as police.

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