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A two-tier Internet will be created in Europe as the result of a late-night "compromise" between the European Commission, European Parliament and the EU Council.

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they can't be serious..there will be atleast another vote or something before implementing it..no?
how many of you are moving to 'Murica for google fiber now?

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It's not final yet, but it is in motion. Read the article for more info.

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It has to be passed in the Council and Parliament.

These meetings are organized if there is a problem with the Commission proposal and it does not get passed in either Parliament or Council or both. Then they meet, compromise but still have to pass it before implementation, then it goes back to Commission etc.

(If I recall correctly it is called the ordinary legislative procedure)

9 years ago
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Could you explain what's happening in one sentence? That's too long and complex for me ...

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not only for you i think somethink bad because whatever nonsense you'd expect after this EU institution...

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There is going to be a "fast lane" reserved for some services; politicians make bullshit excuses how that's good.

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what is a fast lane? like some services will work faster and will screw others?

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Basically, yes.

The Commission is aware of that threat to fair competition. In its press release, it says the new rules will mean that "access to a start-up's website will not be unfairly slowed down to make the way for bigger companies." However, this only applies to its newly-defined "open Internet," where all traffic must be treated fairly. It does not apply to specialised services, which will be able to pay telecoms companies for faster delivery than rivals on the "open Internet." Inevitably, this tilts the playing field in favour of established players with deeper pockets.

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This makes no sense. So they claim it will be illegal to slow access, but then it's legal to speed up access for companies that pay extra. Have they heard of relativity? It means they are slowing access for companies that don't pay.

The sheer corruption that must be behind this bizarre decision is boggling.

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good point

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Yup.
Corporations will be able to send you stuff with full upload speed, while small blogs (or Steamgifts) will be forced to send you data in slow pipe.

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i'd say not in slow pipe, but in general pipe which supposed to mean "open internet". but who will mark borders of this open internet?

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Semantics - one will call it general and specialized, other will call it slow and fast XD

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yup-yup, but for specialized internet customer shall pay extra cash so he/she/it will be able to use this super-puper-duper-zuper prioritized services?

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Heh, answered you in other place :)

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Content providers (ie Netflix) will be paying ISPs to prioritize their data

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Telecoms managed to pay off EU politicians to break the Internet. Unless we the people do something, that is.

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ISPs and content providers should be split. Then mark ISPs as utility.

This is happening because ISPs also have their content providing services and they want people to switch away from netflix by not counting the data that you consume on their content.

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If it simply possible for them to have the option of charging more for services like internet tv and videos then they will.

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Money and favors weren't involved in influencing this decision, promise!

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Thanks, ObamaMerkel

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Fuhrer*

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Hail*

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I have no idea what this means.

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so, it will be like general tv and cable or satellite tv, right?
but why eu against net neutrality?

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Because let's say you make your own startup that's like Netflix. Your customers have to use "regular" internet to access it. But your local Telecom has the money to create their own service similar to your own startup, just that they provide it over the "special" high speed internet. Can you compete with them, even if you started first and it was your idea? (OK, in this example it's not an original idea, but I hope you get the point)

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but "special" high speed internet aka dedicated cable will be available only for extra payment for customer to be able to use it, right? not like some big company will pay to isp to get this "special" high speed internet to be able to deliver their content to final customer for free.
and more it will be against law to make deals between isp and big companies to slow traffic in open internet.
so need to see finalised text for this "open internet neutrality"
none the less, thanks news... it is very interesting.

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"but "special" high speed internet aka dedicated cable will be available only for extra payment for customer to be able to use it, right? " - nope.

Very quick and dirty version: if you will try to enter page and suddenly it will stop to download, that will be because privileged site was accessed by someone and that means all other data must stop being uploaded until privileged site sends its data.
It's not 100% accurate, but you'll know the basics :) .

Nothing changes for customers/users/you-and-me, unless sites with super access will want more money because they have super access.

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that approach on view on net neutrality is kinda totally unfair, i must admit and something is very wrong about it.
i see that topic isnt' new and i missed a lot http://imgur.com/gallery/Ut7TGot

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The rules enshrine the principle of net neutrality into EU law: no blocking or throttling of online content, applications and services.

Doesn't the blocking bit make blocking torrent sites unlawful?

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They found a way around it: normal tier will be "open" without blocking and throttling... but "special" tier will be paid extra and will have higher speeds and all the special services that do not share the same cable with the regular stuff.

So, in theory, nothing will be blocked to push you to pay extra for "special" connection. Just as Euribor was never fixed by banks who controlled it.

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It's amazing to see what lobbyists are able to do in EU. Hey, at least we have good consumer protection laws... for how long ?

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It looks like it's really a "new" thing, it's in the same package that the new rule about roaming in telephony : http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5275_en.htm
I've quicky read that doc, and it's clearly stated that the new "specialised services" higher-quality network will use... internet. I must be stupid, because I can't see how it is not a break in net neutrality.

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New world order incoming... soon in your country. They will do whatever they want with the TTIP :(

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This is the price people pay when they allow money into politics.

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I don't think anyone really "allowed" money in politics (except maybe the people spending and receiving said money). It's more a case of money finding it's way into politics, to the detriment of everyone (again. except for the people giving and receiving the money.)

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Geez, how'd this slip by my radar? I'm in the US, but I'm usually following this sort of stuff. Regardless of their claims of not hindering smaller sites/companies... they most certainly will. Even if the small sites maintain the same speeds as they have now, the big ones can pay to be faster. Who's going to use the little guy's site when the big one's so much more convenient?

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