People will set their CV to whatever they want, it is their choice.
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Of course it is! It's just as the title say, an advice when they set the limit, maybe they haven't thought of this.
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Imagine this- Someone gave away 2 games - 1 for 9.99 , other for 19.99 so a total of 29.98.
What then ? Everyone should do so too ?
Might as well have no contribution value at all...
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I don't. I've thrown away a hundred keys on friends who don't even want the games simply because I don't get CV for giving them away here. If I have no incentive to contribute anymore, why would I?
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You know you can spend 19 cents nowadays and get over the $30 hump right now, right? If you're too cheap to do that and yet can afford to buy bundles, I don't know what to say.
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Why would I spend money to give a stranger some crappy game to increase my chances of winning by a tiny fraction of a percent?
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If you aren't willing to spend 19 cents on a stranger, why are you complaining about CV? I guess a lot of people who weren't around before the CV system got implemented don't know this, but CV was never designed to be an incentive to give games away in the first place.
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The number of giveaways would increase exponentially if we got even a fraction of credit for giving away bundle games. More giveaways = more free games for everyone. The only "down side" to giving CV for bundle games past $30 is that people can't gate people out of their giveaways just because they refuse to throw money away on this site.
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You do get credit for giving away bundle games. Up to $30 CV in fact. But I'm going to reiterate once again that CV was never meant to be an incentive to give away games. In fact, it's become so problematic that in the next iteration of the site, CV has been removed.
I hate throwing around this word, but you seem to feel that you are entitled to CV just because you give away any game, whether it be from a bundle, paid for individually, or mass hoarded from free giveaways like Enclave and Thief. Sorry, the site simply doesnt work like that. The entire point of the bundle list was to increase CV "fairness" by excluding methods of getting hundreds or thousands of CV while only spending a dollar or two. Considering that you feel that CV is an incentive system, why would someone give a non-bundle game if you can give a bundle game for much cheaper and yet get the same "reward"? There are already sites like that. If you wish to participate in something like that, try visiting gala giveaways.
You seem to enjoy people who "throw money away on this site," considering that you've won a couple of non-bundle games without giving any away yourself.
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Your argument is totally bogus.
The people that are going to spend money on strangers will continue to do so, with or without CV. They will do this because they enjoy giving. These are the same people that buy expensive titles that the majority of people on SG desire. The $30.01 CV limit does not slow these people down at all. When these people make a giveaway for something special, they like to give it to those users who have helped the community in some notable way, so they restrict access to the giveaway. Sometimes they do this by making a group-only giveaway, and sometimes they use the CV lock.
Meanwhile, the Scrooges who are on this site for the sole purpose of profit will continue to spend as little as possible. They will give away games they have either received for free or bought for almost nothing, flooding the site with gifts that anyone can purchase for a pittance. While there is nothing wrong with choosing to go this route, it does not get you invited into the groups or giveaways mentioned in the previous paragraph.
in the end, those giveaways we are allowed to enter are a chance at getting "something for nothing," and, as the saying goes, "Beggars can't be choosers." We should be grateful for what we receive.
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The premise of your post indicates that if CV were taken away, nothing would change, because people would still give away expensive games for no personal benefit. If this is true, why is there a CV system, other than to restrict people for not giving away the "right" games?
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That question is answered down below. The short answer is: "to recognize those who have given more than average."
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People were giving away expensive games for "no personal benefit" before CV was ever implemented on this site.
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Your argument is completly invalid. People that "throw money away", will be doing it without looking at CV. And when they will feel like giving something nice to the like minded people, they will do so either by very high CV, private or group GA. For you, I'm afraid, it will change nothing, you will still be unable to enter these GA.
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People like you are the cancer of this community.
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Sorry that I don't want to spend a hundred dollars on strangers for no reason in the hopes that one day I might get a game I actually want from a giveaway?
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And yet you expect strangers to spend a hunderd dollars on you so that one day you might get a game you actually want from a giveaway?
It goes both ways you know
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I don't expect anything from anyone. I am just saying I would have given away literally 100 more games if there were literally ANYTHING in it for me.
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It's words like "for no reason" and "if there were literally ANYTHING in it for me" that make me say what I said before - people like you are the cancer of this community, and have no place even being here.
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Or, I could just spend that money to get a good game for myself. I don't have hundreds of dollars laying around to spend on strangers, sorry.
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Pretty much nobody here has. It's all matter of choice: to buy games for myself and leech the site or give back to the community.
In last winter sale on Steam you could get $3-$5 from voting cards and that was more then enough to buy something nice at $0 cost for yourself, yet you chose not to.
You say you bought hundred keys in bundles, yet you couldn't scrape few bucks to make a giveaway that would make you go above $30.00.
Tell me please, why do you expect I'll be "throwing away" my hard earned money on people like you?
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"Why would I spend money to give a stranger some crappy game to increase my chances of winning by a tiny fraction of a percent?"
And yet you want to win games from strangers.
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I also don't give a crap if the games I win were from a bundle or not. I don't see why anyone should care.
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Lolz, it's not supposed to be about CV. It's supposed to be about wanting to giveaway extras or just to do it because you want to.
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So you prefer giving games to people you know don't want them rather than people who do want them just because you get nothing out of it? That's kind of a dick move, and somewhat selfish.
("Who cares if people in Africa starve, I don't get anything by giving them food, so I'll just give my surplus food to people I know who will throw it in the trash anyway because they have plenty of their own food." Ok, it's an extreme comparison for many reasons, but it captures the basic principle. I'm not saying you have to give anything to anyone, but if you are doing it anyway, and it doesn't cost you anyway, then why not actually give it to the people who will make use of it?)
Besides, it's not entirely true that you don't get CV. The CV for bundle games has a soft cap, not a hard cap. Basically, past the first $25 you get at most 20% of your CV from bundle games. That's the reason why CV giving only bundle games maxes out at $30 ($25 + 20%*$25) So even if you're only giving away bundle games now, if you ever in the future give away a non-bundle game you'll get extra CV from it if you care so much about it.
You also have won some games on this site, so it's not like you have no incentive to contribute to this site. Sure, it's not a tangible incentive like a bigger number allowing you to enter super exclusive giveaways but the bulk of the giveaways come from people like you or me, who maybe give away some spare keys, and maybe even occasionally feel like sharing a good game that was on sale.
P.S.: I noticed you have what it seems like a fake giveaway. A private giveaway for a AAA game that only your friend entered and does not have in their account. Or maybe they're not your friend, but you did give away a AAA game through a very hard puzzle or something and only 1 person entered so you got no CV anyway and that explains your disinterest in making giveaways here. In which case, it's a shame, but unfortunately it's a side effect of trying to prevent the type of abuse I described.
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Setting it to 30.01 is probably the biggest douchebag thing you could do while still being a great person for giving away a game. It's like saying fuck you to everyone who gives away shit in their bundles like they aren't actually contributing to the community with what they do. I'm sure a lot of people would miss out if everyone who contributed bundle games just stopped.
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That adorable puppy on your profile picture doesn't let me answer back that argument...
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I know a good place where to put ur cv, but i wont tell <3 ^^
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... Says the guy who hasn't made 1 giveaway yet, himself.
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But why do you think he comes to this site? 600-odd entries in giveaways says he comes here hoping to win free games others have paid for. So, he thinks others giving shit is fine, but as soon as he's expected to have the intention of giving something away, oh no, that would be pathetic. Right?
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Ah, I re-read his thing. I get what you're saying now. I don't think he's right to say that people who suggest people who just enter giveaways but never give anything back, that they should give something back are pathetic. But I do think that it's a common courtesy almost that if you're here and you're partaking in numerous amounts of chances to win things others have decided to giveaway to anyone. That it's respectable to create a giveaway and give something back as your offering back to the community for what it has offered and done for you.
Because I know i've gave back to this community with a free key drop or two and 8 giveaways because of all the chances they've given me to win sweet games and given me chances to obtain free key drops. Participation in forum threads and heads-up about free games on other websites (like i've gotten some free games and dlc from websites because of the alert threads posted).
I feel like it's kind of a slap in the face to everyone here to just accept the mass amount of things this website gives to me each day and give nothing in return. Therefore I feel like it's a common courtesy to give something back to all of these people who're doing so many kind things for me and everyone else.
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Remember the big fuckup Ubisoft had on their site? You know, where they were giving out a few free games as a promo, but you could use proxies to make as many throwaway accounts as you wanted to get all the games they allowed you to choose from? Probably that.
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CV is dumb, always has been. If you wanna exclude people from your giveaway, make it private or group-only like I've always done.
I notice the biggest supporters of it also tend to be those who abuse the system. :P
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Yea who needs it? Just look at Galagiveaways, Steamcompanion, etc. they don't have cv!
Oh, wait... that's a main reason behind those giveaway sites sucking so much more and having hardly any ga's mostly of left over crap from bundles.
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Yes, because leechy fools are the only ones who've tried flocking there after seeing they can't win AAA games here for giving away crap. They flood this site with bundle shit, make a thread asking about "why my no CV go up for going please thanks", then try to find other places to win free shit. And voila, all that's left is shitty members on these other sites.
The only people who give away decent stuff are private groups of members active on this site, usually ones who know each other, or big promotion people like Youtube or Twitch channels that give away decent stuff every so now and then, but with an infinitesimal chance at winning.
Leeches and people trying to find systems to abuse (like CV boosters) are the ones screwing up the quality of giveaways over all giveaway sites / venues. No one wants to give them anything, because they don't want to give anything to anyone else, have little to no gratitude or even realisation of the fact that other people put money into doing giveaways. They purely see giveaways as "oh free game, cool". To them, it would the exact same thing if a site just magically spit out free games out of nowhere. Which is why you also have so many idiots thinking this site does exactly that, making threads and support tickets about their giveaway ending, and them not getting a game.
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I belive that people are aware of this when they meke their contributor limit. And I assume that's is directed to very specific cases, maybe someone could not enter a GA for 10$ and think he should? because if I put 49,99$ the person who made 2 GAs for games with 29,99$ and 19,99$ will still be a cent short if I put 49,99$.
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Need another cent to reach the right CV amount for that giveaway you want? Buy a copy of Fortix and give it away. Better yet, buy a copy of a game everyone wants that you can afford, give that game away, and don't bother worrying about CV at all.
It's amazing how bountiful the earth seems once you learn to abandon Greed.
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Yes, it's a bundled game. You're right to bring it up in case the person needing the extra penny of CV has all bundled giveaways. In such a case, they can buy Infestation: Survivor Stories or something else that's cheap but not yet bundled.
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So, you think we're jerks. I'm sorry you feel that way, but you're free to form your own opinion about us. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to make giveaways.
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My being able to buy anything at all--and do whatever I please with it--has nothing at all to do with my worth as a person. (Nor with yours, for that matter.) I live in the U.S., where a simple can of soda often sells for $2. As for a full meal, that's $15-20 if you eat out, or about $10 if you make it at home. Here in my country, as in many others, there are many people who can only dream of three full meals a day. Some of them are lucky to get one.
When I'm not trying to help those unfortunate people out with the little bit of money I have, I'm saving a dollar here and a dollar there so that I can buy a game to give away to those who have enough money to afford a computer and enough time to waste it playing games. I understand only too well that people from all over the world and from varying backgrounds come to SteamGifts. I am very thankful that I am neither arrogant nor close-minded, and I try to remember the many blessings in my life.
Frankly speaking, I find the tone of your postings disrespectful and petulant. There are plenty of people from poor countries (probably even yours) who use SteamGifts and give away gifts without behaving in such a manner as you are doing, now. I hope that at least one of them decides to try and talk some sense into you.
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Khalaq I think you're a good guy, I really do. But you gotta understand me, I see people mocking the OP when they don't know anything about him, what if it was me? and they're mocking a person that works his ass off for a month for 5 USD to buy a cheap game? Then wouldn't they be jerks?
I don't want him or me to be anyones charity case, but you have to admit, that juding so quickly was jerk-ish. Hell, he even seems a little innocent.
And excuse me if I don't take 1$ to giveaway fortrix from the 5$ a month I make, because for most of the people on SG that would be just one minute of work (or a can of soda). I do giveaway games steam games to people in my local community (you can check a couple of them on my friends list).
I'm not petulant, i'm just angry at so many people judging OP so quickly. Thank you for your time, and I really hope that you don't believe that just because you giveaway stuff to poor people you're immune of acting like a jerk sometimes.
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The original poster has 126 games on his steam profile. I doubt they were all given to him. It could be that most are bundled and thus obtained cheap but if that is the case he could give away some extra bundled games. As I see it now, he is just whining about not being able to enter certain giveaways.
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I totally agree with you that mocking someone because they don't have "enough money" is wrong. I also agree with you that making snap judgements is both foolish and can lead to inappropriate behavior. Your previous postings were giving an entirely different impression, one where you seemed to be resentful of other people because they were not "giving enough." It now seems that was not your intention.
Miscommunication, especially on the internet, is always a possibility. That is why I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, just in case I'm misunderstanding them. It is way too easy to react badly to a perceived slight and start a flame war over what turns out to be nothing. I hope you do not think that feel like I'm above making mistakes and/or acting like a jerk. I am human and therefore liable to screw up at least occasionally, regardless of what I do or do not give away. One of the valuable services my friends perform is in telling me when I'm acting like a jerk. If I have been acting like a jerk, recently, then I apologize.
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I think you are exaggerating the value of $1 by quite a bit (not sure where you are from, but no place on Earth will feed you 3 meals a day for $1), but I do understand that there are poor people on steam and here on SG, and I think there are a lot of giveaways that don't require you to have any CV at all. And guess what, people like Khalaq make those giveaways as well.
The above troll giveaways are kinda rude, I get that, but they are there because the OP is coming off as greedy and he's clueless about it. In fact, you'll see threads like this quite often here, and they'll probably have novelty giveaways as well. But remember, all those "trolls" also make free giveaways all the time and keep this site alive.
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Not really, once you sell that 1 USD on the black market, you can use enough of the local currency to buy from people that sell food from their homes.
However I appreciate the rest of your comment, and recognize most of it is true. Thank you for your time, mate.
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Exaggearated, but not that much. In countries with average monthly wage around ~250-400$ you can probably buy raw food directly from farmers at dirt cheap prices. (I remember that in '80 in eastern block $100 was really good money)
Not much to add to rest of post, +1
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My 250-400$ per month country (Serbia) doesn't offer cheaper food than the rest of the world, prices are pretty much the same, and electronics are up to 50% more expensive than in the US. So a poor country doesn't mean cheaper everything.
I really wish AgentD22 would say where he is from though, since that $5 a month paycheck he mentioned sounds insane to me, but if he wants to keep his home country a secret, than it's not my place to ask him.
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Here is similar. With electronics I can't do anything, but food can be alot cheaper than in supermarket. For example, I buy potatoes in 50kg sacks from farmer, at fraction of what it costs in market, and he still gets more than he would get selling wholesale. Cut off middlemans that skim profits with next to no value added :)
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I used to do $30.01, but then I realized people just giveaway $0.10 DLC to get them over the $30 CV hump, so now I pick something a bit higher, like $33 or $35. But I figure so long as people are giving away something at all, its better than pure leeches (people with zero CV).
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I was a 0 gifts given (CV didnt exist yet), 0 comment leech for the first 2 months I was on steamgifts. Then I decided to visit the forums to see if I could find any lower entry giveaways. Now my wallet is empty every month. Thanks sg forum. Thanks.
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Hi you all! I just wanted to say that those who put contributor limit in their giveaways that they can set the limit instead on for example: 10$, better fix on 9,99$, or instead 50$, set it on 49,99$.
Why? Because the prices in Steam are set in X,99$ and maybe like me, other people couldn't get to enter a giveaway just for 0,01$ even having done a giveaway.
Thanks for your attention! ^^
EDIT: Rectification on the long text I put below.
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