That's not what Bobo said, it was different with the Origin bundle.
Also, not all bundle-sites say you can't share the bundle.
Besides, as others have said, this topic seem to be about gifting full bundles, which I reckon every site with "buy as a gift"-option is OK with :)
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Indeed, I believe the Groupees guys were totally okay with sharing a while back.
IR and HB not at all, no idea for the other bundle sites.
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if its piracy why am i paying for the keys, piracy is using jolly roger themed sites to aquire ones games, not only is it to my mind immoral to tie a licence to one person permanently its probably illegal in the EU. i can go into a shop and buy a console game then resell it with no problems(at least for now) why are digital licenses any different beyond the greed of the companies selling them
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he means because you gift steam copies but retain drm free access....but they weren't sold to you as a game and separate from that some keys. it was sold to you as two a choice of different ways to use your single game purchase of only one copy for you alone. so opening a bundle and gifting the keys is comparable to making copies. you paid for a game and now somebody else has one without you losing access to the one you paid for(you just can't use it on steam anymore) It'd be no different to just hand out copies of the drm free version and keep the key for yourself.
the origin bundle was this but more so since for some games it gave a steam key and an origin key(and a secret second origin key you were never intended to have but could get by exploiting the steam key)
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"well if theyre fool enough to offer different ways to get a game what do you expect, any loophole is gonna be used to dont make loophole its that simple"
Dude...that excuse is, forgive me for saying so, dumb. You agreed to their contract that you would only use the codes for yourself when you purchased it. There is no loopholes in that agreement; it was a clear violation. I'm not here to argue that it's good or bad(since I've given away extra codes before), I'm just saying don't put the blame on the HB makers for your errors.
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lets try this differently, i consider every key a licence to use a game/games, i dont consider it any business of anyone but me what i do with said licenses, i treat drm free copies as bonuses for my personal use the only way another person gets acces to my drm free copies is if i gifted a whole bundle to them, origin bundle for instance some of the games had 2 keys to me thats 2 copies of the game, if they didnt want it to be so why offer the origin keys for the steam games
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Giving away keys from a bundle is not piracy as long as you destroy (and never redownload) all copies of the game you're giving away yourself; as numerous people pointed out, you're granted a license (which you have to click-through) on redeeming a key, so anyone who has a key can exchange it for a license. It's perhaps not intended (though that depends on the intentions of individual bundles; clearly IndieGala wants people to gift extra keys, since they sent up a mechanism to do so on their own site), and it could perhaps get you banned from the bundle site.
But it's entirely legal. When you buy a bundle, you're not buying a license, you're buying keys which can be redeemed for a license, without signing any contracts limiting how you use those keys. Sell them, trade them, give them away, forget about them, whatever, it's legal.
And that's even outside the EU. In the EU, first sale doctrine applies, which means that once you've bought a game, the sellers no longer have any right to dictate how you use it; transferring it to someone else is always legal. I tend to think that this is the common-sense solution, and I find the way people rush to defend the absurd claims companies have tried to make about copyrights baffling.
When you pay for a product you can do what you please with it, regardless of the complicated legal shenanigans companies go through to try and restrict customers' rights -- copyright law provides a temporary protection against the production of additional copies in order to encourage people to produce intellectual works, and recently companies have pushed that into slightly more severe restrictions in order to ostensibly limit additional copying, but it was never intended to protect specific business models or provide any rights beyond that. The law provides absolutely no provisions that would let you force a customer to keep bundled products together indefinitely, nor is there any reasonable justification for why that sort of restriction on customer's rights would be necessary.
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"And that's even outside the EU. In the EU, first sale doctrine applies, which means that once you've bought a game, the sellers no longer have any right to dictate how you use it; transferring it to someone else is always legal. I tend to think that this is the common-sense solution, and I find the way people rush to defend the absurd claims companies have tried to make about copyrights baffling.
When you pay for a product you can do what you please with it, regardless of the complicated legal shenanigans companies go through to try and restrict customers' rights "
except steam or did I miss the news story about that court case? I've been waiting for it so it'd make me sad to fail to read it.
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I think that those laws only apply to the physical media and not digital copies, at least that's what I've read :/
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Well, some people say that the consumer laws in effect are from what state/country the business resides in. If that's the case, then the fact that the physical address of HB resides in California should mean that no EU consumer laws are applied.
But once again, all conjecture from reading multiple threads and topics regarding this topic. :/
Once more, let me repeat that I am not 100% sure. If I'm wrong, then I am wrong.
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EU laws apply in the EU, it doesnt matter where your based if you do business here you follow our laws, now im sure they cant enforce the laws on hunble bundle, america's about the only state that can apply its whims internationally but the reverse is true you cant sue somone in the EU for doing something thats legal here
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Send a support ticket if you want them added to the giveaway list. Most people don't give away full bundles which is why they don't appear.
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Only the Build-a-bundle ones... a lot of their bundles are simply 2-tiers.
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Sorry, but nope. There was some Flying Bundle too before the current featured giveaway :
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/rnecH/flying-welcome-bundle
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/lXKpJ/flying-welcome-bundle
And even if it was the case, that's still not fair for the others bundles which are not 100% steam redeemable.
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Send a support ticket and they will add it. I did that a couple times with some Indie Gala and Groupees bundles and they always added them :)
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So, what's going on here exactly ? Only Steam gifts bla bla bla. Then the Flying Bundle appears. That's great but hey, where are those Groupees bundles too ? And Indie Royale, etc.
I don't see the point here. Plus, some bundles are missing like Humble Indie Bundle 8 & 9. And if not only Steam bundles are allowed now, Humble Origin Bundle is missing too. And i'm sure a lot more are missing.
TL;DR (Like Laudes said) : "Why is the an option to gift the Flying Bundle (complete) but not [some particular] Humble bundle [like Origin one] ...... or Indie Royale ...... or Groupees ......"
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