EA gets a bigger cut from sales on their own service, and know that people who enjoy the games will come over to it to finish the series.
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Got a PS3? Better there, since not only can you play 1 - 3, but also a port of the Wii game.
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You are just assuming that because you won't move, that others won't either. There are people who won't ignore the rest of the series just because of a different program, which isn't even that much of a problem. I can at least ****ing understand people refusing to buy another console. Origin is just a matter of running an extra program when you want to play a few games.
If it wasn't profitable they wouldn't have stuck with it. They have customers, and exclusives to draw new people. It might not be the main choice for people looking for a digital service on PC, but it is hardly a failure.
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Oh sure, but that doesn't mean there aren't people who will ignore it just because it isn't. If some people want to be foolish like that just because start up a second program that is currently little different from Steam itself, that is their own problem. It isn't coming to Steam now, the split has already happened .
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Steam only gives a 70-60% cut (not sure, I'm not a dev) but on origin, they get a 100% cut, although many people visit steam more often than origin, 100 is always better than 60. EA's idea was that they force the desperate that want DS3 to buy it on origin. It's what YouTube did with the comments, requiring you to sign in with Google plus, to use YouTube, YouTube is like the Dead space Franchise, and people are buying it on steam, but then they force you to use Google plus, and that is what EA did, forced you to continue on their own provider, so they get more attention.
Also, the symbol for Origin is just the symbol for a hurricane turned orange.
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facepalm much? what is the difference between having a game on another program like Origin and not Steam and having a Ubisoft game on Steam but forced to install Uplay as well? You kids need to look at better things to complain in life. It's just a program and nobody in their right mind actually cares.
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one of my issues with origion is the lack of support for either the games or the user face. Steam works hard on their shit and even works on getting controller support for their games. I use my rig as pretty much my home console so i enjoy the ability to pick between mouse or controller because i prefer a controller more. But hell if they added controller stuff to DS3 ME3 and Dragon age ill play on their client with no problems, though kinda be nice if they just caved in and Partnered WITH steam instead of against
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You claim to hate ignorance, yet say stuff like this? You must really loathe yourself.
No company deserves to have its games pirated, for having its own digital service. Anyone who is willing to do that while acting like the company is the one in the wrong, is an ****hole.
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Who said it is only because of their own digital distribution? Everybody knows that EA is capitalistic company.
And yes, they FORCED people to use their own distribution. They could releasing their games on various distribution (look at ubisoft), but no. They want all profit. Yes, I know that you will say "but valve have their games only on steam too". Yes, they have. But they cant move their games because of structure (VAC, workshops, server browsers, etc). But EA can, they dont have their games connected with origin.
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EVERY company is about making money, so don't use that as an excuse. Even Valve want money.
I'm not going to complain about Valve having games on their own Digital Service, you are the one who has a problem with companies using their own digital service, not me.
EA have done their stuff a certain way, Steam later changed their rules, EA didn't change their methods of updating and DLC, and so started having games removed by Valve. Now, they just use Origin.
As for uPlay, that is also getting exclusives. So you have fun with that. Unlike Origin, uPlay sucks as software.
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Forced?? Are you seriously saying that EA is some bad guy for putting their games on their own download service? Games are games on whichever platform they are on, Steam, gog, uPlay. And since when is EA a 'capitalistic' company and every other company isn't? What, Steam doesn't exist to make money and games, just the same as EA? Jeez, I can't imagine why people hate so much on EA and Origin.
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I don't get why people like to pretend like EA doesn't make good games anymore. Their business practices may suck, but anyone who thinks they make no good games anymore is fooling themselves. They are not, contrary to popular internet belief, Satan on Earth.
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So which good games they make? MOH which is dead because of EA stupidity? Garbage named SimCity? Unplayable turd aka lensflare simulator which runs on worst engine with worst netcode ever made, and where "guns" shoot everywhere but not where player wants? Or joke Need For Speed series? PvZ2? They destroyed almost all reputation and game series which EA made in past 15 years.
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they don't care? U have games from EA, they didn't solved any problems with their games? Come on dude, stop with this bullshit...If EA don't care about costuemrs, what I have to tell about Infinity Wards which gave all that content for years in every game and stop solve problems with their games.
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I'm glad you're against system exclusives! No more region limits and games that are only on the XBox and only on the PS. Like Rockstar (Red Dead Redemption not on PC, Agent only on PS, GTAs only on PS), Polyphony (GT's only on PS), THQ and Volition (Saint's Row 1 only on 360), and all those other Dev's and Publishers that don't allow us to play the game son every platform and delivery system. Right?!
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Because on EA they are greedy bastards, that's it
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No more than any other company, they exist to earn money.
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Nope.
Some Gaming Companies Reasons to Exist:
1-Money
2-Satisfy Gamers
3-Try to take gaming to next level
4-Help gamers to learn shit
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EA's Reasons to Exist:
1-Money
2-Money
3-Money
4-Money
5-Money
6-Money
7-Come up with the most retarded ways of DRM's.
8-Money
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Yes, and I play the games. I haven't had any problems other than content in The Sims 3.
Strange as it seems, all game companies are for the money. They care about your happiness as long as it makes them more cash. Valve or any other company isn't a magical group of wonderful people that exist only to make you happy, it exists to make the owners plenty of profit.
Valve themselves have done actions that people have ripped into EA over.
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Yes, every company's first aim is to earn money.But you can't count EA equal with CD Projekt RED, it's just wrong.It's not the EA games thats problematic, it's the DLC's.EA put every shit on DLC's and almost nothing in main game.They don't give a shit about gamers.
Some companies actually give a very little shit about gamers,even that makes them better than EA in my vision.1 is always better than 0 ...
P.S. I hate Valve and I have no idea why you think EA haters love Valve.
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I agree with you, gaming companies are like any other company. One of the reasons there is so much backlash against, say, the pharmaceuticals industry is that they have been accused of putting money before patients, likewise, EA has had a history terrible customer support, overbearing DRM, piecemeal DLC and games that lack any content beyond the bare minimum so that the rest can be sold later. In addition, they run franchises into the ground by making more games than a franchise can support without innovating, and drive their studios' reputations into the ground. Remember Maxis? The Sims used to get massive expansions. Now we get Katy Perry's glitter vomit, or whatever.
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I hated how when The Sims 2 came (and subsequently with The Sims 3), they just redid a lot of the expansions from the old game and re-released them as expansions instead of adding them to the main game. Unleashed became Pets for example.
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Customer Support? Are you serious? I don't think there any costumer support worse than Steam's. I don't know about EA costumer support but it's hard to imagine worse than Steam's. Also Origin support is one of the best I've seen around. overbearing DRM? First, EA doesn't use that anymore. Second, before there were tons of games with bad DRM, oh yeah, let's hate only EA on that. piecemeal DLC? facepalm Yeah, EA is the only one doing that. If you are so freaking blind by hate, ALOT of games now have piecemeal DLCs.
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"They don't give a shit about gamers" Probably the most retard thing I've ever read. How the fuck a company wouldn't give a shit about its consumers? Are they like 'Hey, let's do it like this, people gonna hate so they won't buy it, but who cares about that, we care only about money, not consumers, it's not like those two things related to each other' You see something they keep doing that you don't like, errr maybe then it's just you? And the problem isn't that critical for the absolute majority of gamers that it would make EA change their approach? And yeah, that "Origin Guarantee" is still not giving fuck about players as well? You know, if you keep looking only for faults, the only thing you gonna find is faults obviously, so yeah, good luck on mindless hating.
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Companies only exist if they make a profit. Anything else is secondary. You can aspire for those other reasons, but working at a loss means you'll eventually close down. It's the same reason politicians pander to votes instead of sticking to those ideals.
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Funny thing is EA is such an important name in the industry exactly because of point 2 and 3.
That's why they had the balls to be so greedy. Because almost everything that came out of their quarters satisfied the majority of gamers and tried to take gaming to next level. Few "next-level" ideas from EA... Sims, NFS series (underground), Mass Effect series, RA series, Dead Space series, Battlefield 1942 and BF series, and the last but not least... Mirror's Edge. All these games when they came out they came out with new things that the gamers out there embraced. So keep failing more. Most retarded ways of DRM? Look at Ubisoft and then we can talk about it. What Ubisoft does is indeed retarded even tho it is highly profitable for them.
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Funny how people forget it was Valve who forced/gave reason to EA to go out. EA was more then happy to put for example Dragon Age 2 on Steam, but then Valve said "now put those DLCs on Steam too" and EA was "no!" so Valve said "DLCs or GTFO". So they GTFO.
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Indeed, but people only want to blame someone else. They are brainwashed. :P
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yes, goes to show how peeps need to do alittle more research into their questions/answers, EA isn't all to blame for the lack of newer content on Steam. It's a dispute among the terms and agreements that Steam has setup. EA wanted to lease games onto Steam, but the dlc's to them would be purchased ingame and through EA ... it's Steam that decided to boycott them in the end. Maybe in a couple of years, that may change, but don't expect to see Dragon Age 2/ Dead Space 3 and/or Crysis 3, to name a few ... become available on Steam anytime soon.
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While Eve Online can be bought on Steam, is it mandatory that subscriptions from thereon in must also be paid through the Steam system, or can users simply pay in the normal non-Steam way to keep their account operational?
If the latter, that would really smack of double standards.
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I'm guessing it's just an option.
Still, option taking those rumored 30% from devs...
Steam doesn't have problem with devs selling DLCs outside of Steam. They have problem with not selling DLCs inside of Steam. Mostly because DLCs can bring even more money then games themselves...
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MMOs have only recently had the subscriptions available to purchase with Steam wallet.
Besides, you can still get DLCs through their own services, but Steam requires you to be able to purchase it in Steam as well. The only game I know which didn't have a DLC that could be bought in Steam was Bioshock 2, before GfWL was removed.
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Dirt 3 was the same, with unlockable cars and tracks which could only be purchased through GFWL.
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It was on Steam for a while but it sold out now and Valve contacted EA a while ago for more copies. Havent heard any more info since then
source: i just made that up
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That's a pity for them then. I will never use Origin. So I will never buy Dead Space 3. I wouldn't actually mind if they sold their "Origin exclusive games" on Steam for a higher price, I might still buy them because, well, they're on Steam.
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Several of the Origin exclusives were already removed at the choice of Valve, not EA.
Accept that you will either need to use Origin (which isn't that bad, I certainly have no problem using it alongside services like Desura and GOG as well) or need a console to finish the series (which honestly, you need anyway, as there is the console exclusive games (Extraction, made for the Wii and later ported for PS3 Move) and DLC (continues the story from Extraction)).
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All these people saying, "Blame Valve for telling EA they can't sell their games on Steam," are wrong. Valve has had that clause in their ToS just about forever, and every other company abides by it. EA chose to break the ToS and then tried to demand that Valve change it for them. Valve refused and said that if EA doesn't play by the rules they can't sell their products on Steam. I fail to see how that is Valve's fault. Valve didn't come to EA and tell them they have to do things that other companies have to do. EA came to valve and said we aren't going to be following the ToS anymore.
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and every other company abides by it.
Other games above that haven't been removed for having DLC only through other services have been listen in an above comment chain.
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but when EA helpee Valve for a possible bankrupt and with the Valve vs Blizzard proces it was fine? And Valve wanted to keep all that money from EA for themself? I wanna know when will be a L4D3 game...'cause EA did a great job with L4D1 & L4D2.
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"What great job did EA with L4D1 & 2?" - EA worked at the engine of those 2 games in case u didn't know. Why do u even bother to write some bullshit if u don't know what happened?
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WhipCream...it is the work of EA on a Source engine...look at how zombies felt appart when u shot them and then look at Half-Life and CS when u headshot, his head it's in the fucking same place + most shots miss the head when u aim to the head.
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People with datacaps (like me with 75GB a month) fiind retail copies quite useful. We don't all live in countries with uncapped services available.
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Because EA helped Valve, have colaborate for some games, then EA helps Valve from a possible bankrupt and Valve wanted to keep all the money for themself which EA gave it. So, here Valve was the greedy one. Ea saves more companys if u didn't know, it's not a bad company and it's making good games too...but there are some people who claims that EA are only for money, I mean come on, they make good games too.
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They only make good games so they can make more money. Obviously. It's not charity. It's a business.
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but they want to make money because they have people who work over there, all companies do that, but they came here and said that EA it's bullshit without knowing the fact that EA saved a lot of companies from bankrupt, including Valve.
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Wow. Exactly how many shares of EA stock do you have?
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the 2 newest MoH are great games...NFS Rivals, did u play it?
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Did you play the Dead Space series? Those are great games, even DS3.
Well, except for Dead Space Ignition. That was bad, because it was just minigames and a bit of back story for DS2.
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You are a ****ing monster. No true person could hate that game. You have to be some kind of goblin, or a spriggan. Back, foul beast.
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There are countless devs and publishers that got ruined by EA and EA games are often just the standard, nothing special.
Also, I am pretty sure that releasing the newer EA games not on Steam anymore is more about promoting Origin as an alternative to Steam than about any greedy Valve you are proclaiming.
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name a single publisher or company that end up by the hand of EA.
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that's because I did and the employes of those publisher who don't want to contiunue on market moved to EA as emplyes in new projects.
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TRUCKER...u heard about GOOGLE?! There u can found any proofs u need.
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i think u miss the point...no problem, u will learn to read all the post and then u'll find out what to google about. From all this posts u remain only with "Valve stole EA's money"...so why u post a reply to my comment if u ain't read it? It was about EA save Valves ass from bankrupt becasue Blizzard sue Valve and without EA's help Valve now should have been bankrupted, but after the release of Dota 2 Gabe wanted to invest the money of EA which was not write. Now, how the heck u remain from this with: Valve stole EAs money? :|
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It is you, not me who misses the point.
You are the ONLY one in this thread defending EA and claiming Valve was greedy and took EA's money without coming up with any sort of proof.
I questioned the authenticity of your information and your proof of authenticity is telling me I should just read what you are saying? Excuse me?
Unless I see some proof you are a liar to me.
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You shoulda bought it for 1$ when ya had the chance.
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i see that u can find Dead Space 1 and 2 on steam, but not the number 3, i wonder why? anyone knows? because Origin (EA)?
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