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I think it probably depends on what the game bundle is. If it was a deluxe edition where you already own the base game, but the DLCs are actually just a soundtrack and some useless cosmetic stuff, I'd imagine that can be rerolled without the winner's permission. I think it's at their discretion whether they want to give a game where you already own part of a bundle.

Check in the FAQ, pretty sure there is something about that in there.

EDIT: Found it... "We ask users not to enter giveaways for packages if they already own the majority of the games. This allows for winners that will receive the most value out of their gift. In the end, the giveaway creator has the final say, and if they believe the winner owns too many of the packaged games, we'll allow them to request a new winner."

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That's an actual contradiction but based only on the ticket having to get a reason picked from a ready made list. Nobody has suggested and/or bothered to add more reasons because they work for the huge majority of cases and in the tiny minority of exceptions the majority of users still get it. There is no deeper philosophy than that behind it. Only thing support requires is for the creator to decide that you own too much if you own any part and the honor that decision.

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It does not seem right to me that a giveaway creator can randomly ask for and receive a reroll without the consent of the giveaway winner.

you owned part of the bundle you won, so the ga creator rerolled following the rules in the faq.

What are the rules for entering to win Steam packs if I currently own a number of the games contained within?
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We ask users not to enter giveaways for packages if they already own the majority of the games. This allows for winners that will receive the most value out of their gift. In the end, the giveaway creator has the final say, and if they believe the winner owns too many of the packaged games, we'll allow them to request a new winner.

them rerolling after contacting you was dumb, but the ga creator isn't breaking any rules. 🤷

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Reroll reason was "majority of bundle exists in their account".. stupid that the creator contacted you, but absolutely legit to request a reroll.
If you own the base game in a bundle pack it counts as majority. sry

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Hey i dont know axactly the case here but i understand the rule of SG, But one question the Sg rule say that when you own the "majority" of the games. But that to my knowledge is more then half of it lets say 6/10 then it is the majority but when you have 4/10 its not so where do you take that from that "the base game in a bundle counts as majority" ? thats not what the rule say so when you are right SG needs to change the rule to say that exatly and not with "majority". Just feel bad about the case but like i said i dont know how much games he own from that bundle he talks about.

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The majority in worth not in number of included items.
If you own the high priced base game (example 20$)+ one DLC(example 15 $) but don't own 20 cheap cosmetics and music DLCs (example together 25$) it is allowed to reroll because the stuff you own are more as the half worth of the bundle.

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I think in most (if not all) cases the creator has the final say if it's okay to enter for DLCs / while owning multiple games, but maybe it's just rarely implemented so I didn't see it being denied by support.

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Yes, normaly users question if it is ok to enter when they own X part(s) of the bundle/Deluxe Edition or any of such "upgrades", if the gifter don't stated something to it in the decription.

I am sure the reroll was ok from the rules but it was strange to contact the winner before, make with him a "aggrement" and then act different.
But far away from the strangest i have experienced here at sg :-D

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Yeah, I think they changed their mind when noticed the owned content.

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Maybe but normaly a short "i changed my mind and will question for a reroll, don't delete your game (parts)" should be done then.
But normal behavior at sg ..... are, sometimes, different :-D

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Hey Guys thank you for the answers you provided =) & Happy Holidays 🎅🎄 ^^ i didnt enter any gibs like a Deluxe version when i own the main game and even if i would i ask first like you said thats normal behavior i think^^ BUT i found it a little confusing because i dont speak englisch as my first language and for me the majority means still 6/10 instead of the worth i found SG should put something behind like majority ( of worth ) instead of just majority ^^ but but now i know ;) ^^ thanks to you <3

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Rules talk about users not entering at all if they own the majority. This is a different case where the giver has the right to decide how much they think you can own and not get rerolled.

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So the "don't enter when you have the majority" is only a "friendly advice" and the real rule is "if you own something the gifter can reroll it" ?

If so, then the rules are written very badly in this point.

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No, it's a friendly request not to enter to avoid too many unnecessary rerolls. The real rule is that the gifter can define "majority" any way they want which is why polite people ask before entering.

The rules are fine, some people just like to nitpick about silly things without bothering to read them.

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I would say i am one of the, maybe few, that readed the rules more as one time and i would say with concentration and not distracted.
And for me it is new that the gifter can set the "majority" completly free. I thought the majority is defined in frames/borders defined from sg too (not exactly ones only as the outer border/frame and all between is the gifters thing)
In seen it as "over 1/3 better question to avoid problems".
To my luck i am polite and questioned always when i owned a part of the Bundles/Packs if not only 1/10 owned -and that 1 were max.10% of the worth-.

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The creator discretion is literally 2 sentences away from the majority. This is very common to read only the beginning of a long line and somehow skip the rest imagining that you read it all, at least I do it all the time. :)

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I am a concentrated, full, reader. Special with Rules, FAQ's and AGB's when i start with a site.
So i am 100% sure have read all the rules completly.
But it was 2 years ago and the "common sg handling" of a part of the rules is completly different to the rules itself so maybe i set it in my memories/mind to the common handling, combined with my friendly questionings when i entered something i had a part of.

Or they changed that rule in the time between reading it the first (and second) time and now ;o)

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So you remember 100% of every EULA that you have agreed to? :P

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Can we not have here discussion about symantics and reading EULA? It will lead to nothing and you both like to have those discussions.

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I thought we moved past the very little discussion there is about it already and moved onto silly jokes, so no risk here. Thanks for the consideration tho. :)

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At the moment when i read it YES :-D giggling

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The giveaway creator can request a reroll at any time as long as you own at least one part of the bundle, no matter how minor that part is, whether he's tried to contact you before or given you any guarantees. He has the final say no matter what. It seems like he chose to resolve things in a strange manner, but the reroll is still valid in accordance with site rules.

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The giveaway creator can request a reroll at any time as long as you own at least one part of the bundle, no matter how minor that part is

This^^

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Rules talk about users not entering at all if they own the majority. This is a different case where the giver has the right to decide how much they think you can own and not get rerolled.

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Not like the mods wouldn't notice someone opening a ticket for the 60th reroll on the same giveaway.

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The actual faq part is:

In the end, the giveaway creator has the final say, and if they believe the winner owns too many of the packaged games, we'll allow them to request a new winner.

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In the end, the giveaway creator has the final say, and if they believe the winner owns too many of the packaged games, we'll allow them to request a new winner.

Yes, it's in the very real and documented SG rules! ^^

I couldn't resist . ;)

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It's good enough for the FBI !

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No it's not any kind of contradiction. How exactly can it be abused? Somehow forcing the winner to buy part of the bundle on Steam and then quickly reroll? Creator doesn't have to reroll even if you own 99% of it, but someone entering those giveaways all the time could get disabled for acting silly.

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Is this the bundle you are talking about?
Cause you also own Counter-Strike: Source from its content.
2 of 3 is definitely a majority.

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I did write that rules written in FAQ and guidelines may look "different". That's why in proposed guidelines it will be changed.

From:

Try to refrain from entering giveaways for packs if you already own the majority of the games contained within. The giveaway creator may request a new winner if you own a high percentage of the packaged games.

To:

Try to refrain from entering giveaways for packages if you already own the majority of the games contained within. The giveaway creator may request a new winner if they believe you own too many of the packaged games.

So after new guidelines is up, there will be no "problem" of guidelines "winner owns majority of package" vs FAQs "creator believe how much is too much".

It is creator that has final say. No matter for number of items, their value etc. You may own only base game of Saint's Row 3 and if creator decides it's too much when they give away Saints Row Ultimate Franchise Pack - we will approve re-roll.

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