Take Bad Rats for example. This game portrays obscene graphic violence against cats including decapitation and the associated blood sprays. What kind of person would enjoy this?

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I do. And videogames are not too violent. Violence is bad as long as it damages in some way or another any being or their belongings. It's not inherently bad and portraying it in non-real enviroments is not execrable and should not be banned.

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I agree. Restrictions maybe to children young enough to not appreciate context, but banning no.

I have to say I was surprised at how gory Bad Rats got.

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Lets all just play secrets of the magic crystal.

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phsss, stop spilling my secret hobby

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MEEEEE. More blood and gore, please. :D

Btw, nice SpaceChem avatar. :)

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Hopefully they'll make a parody game like they did for Cooking Mama.

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There's kinda violence in game but gamers wanna move away the real world.

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bad rats - primitive game for primitive peoples

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Yeah, but it's done because it's easy.

The problem is, it's incredibly difficult to have intelligent games as a result. Bioshock Infinite was brilliant, but even it was muddied by the violence since how exactly are you supposed to gain any semblance of moralism from a game where you play a psycopathic mass murderer?

And you play one in literally every game, so you're pretty much Osama Bin Laden if you think about it and it ruins the experience sometimes.

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Literally every game? So, for example, Kate Walker is hiding some horrible secret and it's all a facade? :o

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I didn't know that Football Manager is about a psychopatic mass murderer... o_O

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Wow, I didn't realize playing Audiosurf set to Beethoven's 5th was so violent. Japanese speed-techno like Ride Out! by ASK, maybe...

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Well from what I've heard no person can actually enjoy Bad Rats ;)

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Well, as a German I almost shit in my pants when I read the Dota changelog yesterday: added low violence content
Thank god, its just China, there heros must not have faces. Too violent! Nerf pls!

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I know a game that has a lot of violence. It calls super mario bros. you even earn more points as much you kill poor Innocent walking mushrooms, turtles and flying turtles. my dog even had to go to a doctor to recover himself.

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now seriously, I think games can only influence to violence if the gamer is a kid(or he still think like one) and this kid has a not stable family, like parents fighting each other, has no father or mother, or simply the parents don't care a little bit about him.

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manhunt ofc...

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I love my dog and take good care of her(she eats better than I do), but I'd happily kill millions of virtual dogs with a hacksaw. Cause that's what they are. Just models of something. Lines of code and pixels. If you think that's the same as the real thing, then you probably lack any moral guidance from other sources in your life. That's the problem with many children these days, parents just put them behind a screen and don't explain the shit they see.

Imho freedom in content creation is important and you should be able to go as violent/obscure as you want. It's up to the responsible parents and communities to regulate who gets to access it though. As a child in development shouldn't see too much crap.

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+1, basically what I said before, but better :)

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but bewbiez? I can rip out her lungs in "better than real life" detail but if she happened to willingly remove her shirt or some reason I'd be scared for life(these two things obviously wouldn't both happen, if they did maybe I'd understand but). So says 'Merica
(not that I'd actually go out and buy a game because boobs just that our rating system is messed up in its priorities)

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I'm all for nudity. Ain't nothing wrong with some skin or a lot of it. Sexually I do prefer clothed stuff more though. Skirt, showing that thigh etc. Too much info? xD we people have the option to choose what content we wish to watch luckily. The media in USA is messed up in general.

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If Bad Rats wasn't an abomination that nobody likes, it most likely would have sparked an outrage, but it didn't. It gets me thinking, when was the last time an unpopular game cause a reaction in media? Night Trap? Hell, remember the "adoption controversy" regarding Portal 2, when they must have been really struggling to come up with something?

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never.

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Nah

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only a horrible person would enter a giveaway for such a horrible game.

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I made a GA for Bad Rats and 413 people entered :D

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413 horrible people don't surprise me.

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413 psychopathic murderers. CALL THE STEAM POLICE!

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Or worse, create a giveaway for such a horrible game.

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or even worse, create a giveaway for such a horrible game and then hide it in a Forum Thread. That's sick

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I don't like killing (friendly) dogs in games, which is why I felt kinda bad the first time I did it in Assassin's Creed 3, and Far Cry 3 as well I guess, but honestly it's no big deal, and it's ridiculous feeling bad about a dog but not the thousands of humans I've killed in videogames.

I don't think games are too violent, bu I don't like that nudity is viewed as such an adult thing, but bloody murder isn't, it's one of the reasons I like Game of Thrones, I feel like the balance between nudity and violence is well done, and it's mostly in relevant places, except for some way-over-the-top scenes in season 2.

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There are no absurd scenes of nudity in GoT. It's all necessary and muy bueno. This message was sponsored by a man in his early twenties who enjoys nudity.

In USA usually violence is preferred to nudity and even swearing. Not so bad in rest of the world though. Yet I don't get why a pair of wonderful/or not nipples, bottom or bush should increase the rating of any content.

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Nudity in GoT is absurdly gratuitous. I'm totally up for it when it's relevant to the plot (I have this very same opinion when it comes to violence now)) but in GoT is just absurd.

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I actually disagree with both of you, or slightly agree with both of you, depending on how you look at it.

I think for the most part nudity in the show is relevant, but there's a specific scene in the brothel in King's Landing involving Little Finger and 2 of his "employees." which is just absolutely ridiculous. There are other scenes that are sort of over the top, but this specific scene lasted over 2 minutes and contributed nothing to the plot.

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Even if they are, why does it matter ? Games can express whatever their developers intended. Same as movies or other form of media. Don't like something ? Don't play it :D Simple as that, there's no need to question tastes. Nor is there any need for censorship. In case you're questioning whether it's a good game or not that's fair (I heard it's pretty darn bad but I never played bad rats myself). Gl hf !

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They portrait the world -sometimes with wanted exaggeration-, pretty much the same way books, movies, painting, etc do.
There are violent video games because we are violent.

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That is absolutely false, games are not violent because we are violent. Violent people don't sit down and make violent videogames. And videogames with violence do not encourage violence, nor are they made for an angry crowd.

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Who makes video games? Who play them? What are they based on? Us.
I wish we were not, but seriously, open the news.

  • Ok, there are games that are "uneccessarely" violent. In the given example of Bad Rats yes, you could as easily give the cat food instead of killing it, but either way it doesn't really even matter. The point is not killing, it is cleverly put together items to trigger a funny chain of events. Even old cartoons use the same exact trick.
  • Of course there are also games where violence is the only point (e.g. Postal). I personally don't like this kind of games because there's not much to them, they are boring to me. But I still think that other people are entitled to play such games. In fact I prefere them to play games instead of carrying those fantasies out in the real world.
  • And finally there are lots of games/books/movies/etc where violence, torture and death are very well used to trigger an emotional response, to make you care for what's happening exactly because it's something you don't want.
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Now that you edited your answer a bit I see that you just missread my second line. I didn't say that we are violent because of violent games, I said that there are also violent games beacuse violence is "common" in our world, and games depict that.

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Video games arent too violent. Real world is and games only depict that. No one notices brutality when watching tv news but only when they see something in a game? Why is that?

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Really violence in media only affects you if you already have something wrong with you mentally, in wich case you're probably already doing some pretty weird stuff, like torchering your pet cat or something. Just an example, I've never harmed a cat, or any other animals, besides that bird I accidently shot as a kid with a BB gun, It rally was an accident, he flew infront of the can I was shooting at.

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Games need more nudity if anything.

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