Hi, anyone have some info on ubisoft justice making (http://www.reddit.com/r/ubisoft/comments/2t9hwp/ubisoft_on_a_banning_spree). Just for curiosity

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started to hate ubisoft after i purchased few assasins creed sequels and i was only able to play one (AC 2) cause others simply download corupted file from their servers and i cant install the game... so i spent my money and cant play the games, nice ubisoft, really nice...

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Ubisoft and EA are HERESY!

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Ubisoft is totally gong to succeed EA at being the worst.

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Yep they'll definitely be #1, or at least above EA now, with all the shit they've been doing. I bought FC4 on steam and enjoyed it but thankfully I've stayed away from AC Unity. I did buy Watch Dogs, wasn't horrible, but not great. I'll probably stay away from Ubisoft except for the Heroes M&M franchise.

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They are banning keys bought from king pinguin (dunno what's the correct name) or other shady sites

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kinguin

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And how is this legal, everyone can buy and sell goods. You dont need permission? Official retailer just means you get official support. Also how are they knowing which keys are sold on kinguin and g2a? I only can think of they gave them to them.
Either way ubisoft is going downhill, dont support those suckers who thread customers like criminals just to maximize profits.

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Indeed there is no problem in that.
But if they sell stolen keys or keys bought with fraudulent cards... well...

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Oh wow, looks like they are getting worse.

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Nice, time for cheaters to troll, now they can just make new accounts to join servers, use hacks, and everybody in the server who played with them will be banned, or idk how that association works.

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Far Cry 3, the very only birthday gift I have got in years was removed from my Uplay account.

Thanks Ubisoft, I hope you are happy now.

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I will try to translate (from Spanish to English) an article about what happened here in reality.

Here goes the spanish source -> Spanish Source Otogami
And the translation with a bit help of Google translator, the text was huge and i have no much time. More or less, it is this:

"Can you imagine someone paying for a book with fake money, then he resells it to a third person who bought it in good faith and then the bookstore owner, instead of pursuing the forger he pursues the last purchaser of the book and would demand him to return it? Well, this is happening in the world of video games.

In recent days, some news about Ubisoft games appear stolen and how Ubisoft has proceeded to annul those keys and prevent their owners (the user) to continue enjoying the associated games.

Too many of those stories provide erroneous, biased and without contrast facts, merely copy and paste from Ubisoft and EA press release information. And during this time, we have preferred to be cautious and try to gather more information before writing something that was really useful for our users.

At this writing we know we will probably close (more) doors in the media and distributors of Spanish games, but we do not care. We explained how Otogami earn money from our users and if we go ahead, will be only thanks to their support. So, here is another version of this story. One that you can not read anywhere else ...
To be clear, Nobody has stolen anything to Ubisoft or EA.

What have been stolen are credit cards that have purchased those keys. The problem is all owners of these cards have denounced the theft of these, the bank proceeded to refund the money to its rightful owners and cancel payments because ... EA purposely decided to implement a payment system that would not cover a possible online fraud. Why EA would do that? For three reasons, mainly:

·FOR WINNING (MORE) MONEY:
Every time you pay by credit card, the bank that manages your payment gateway charges a commission to the seller. This fee is justified, first, to maintain the service, but also to address possible online fraud. There are online payment gateways that charge up to 10 TIMES more than others, but also give much more coverage to online commerce fraud cases. (Ex. PayPal Seller Protection offers ... in exchange for paying a 4% commission unaffordable for many video game stores with margins that do not reach 10%, a problem that don't suffer neither EA nor Ubisoft).

·IMPROVE THE CONVERSION:
As electronic-commerce, you can choose whether you want your payment gateway is more or less safe and, based on that decision will have a greater or lesser coverage against fraud. If Ubisoft has decided to completely secure your gateway, payment of purchases had been completely covered by it. But it also would have meant that in the case of Spanish cards always -for example- you tried to buy something in Origin the system would skip the 3D Secure, blissful code card or personal verification questions used by many banks nowadays. The use of security measures leads to increased abandoned shopping carts up to 80%, so many companies with small transactions such as EA take risks and has not implemented or only thrown for large amounts (eg. Ibercaja provides 100% coverage in the event that payment is implemented sure).

·THROUGH NEGLECT:
The guide to try to prevent Stripe fraud, a leading payment gateways in the world, is full of tips for businesses that sell digital goods such as movies, music ... or videogames: check that the card itself is not used many times in a short period of time, check that no purchases are made with different cards from the same IP, reject large purchases in non regulars basis ... good practices to implement easy for a company like EA.

Take a look of Kinguin about the safety of Origin told Game Informer: "It seems strange that someone may have bought so many keys in Origin with credit cards without having raised any suspicion by EA. In Kinguin we don't believe we are more technologically pointers than Ubisoft or Origin, but why not to check a large or unusual transactions? We believe that these platforms should have anti-fraud tools necessary to detect these cases."

But most disturbing of all is to ask whether that snuck some fake cards is EA What pint Ubisoft canceling user passwords? Is that EA has refused to pay the keys? Perhaps they have agreed to take advantage of users and send a little message to consumers? "Buy only at my store at price I say or face the consequences."

G2A and Kinguin are not responsible ... but can do more

So card thieves buy a bunch of keys in Origin and resell NO to G2A or Kinguin, but some of the resellers (other companies and individuals) who sell there (you can check the version of G2A and Kinguin in the updates. Gameinformer Article

And that is the main problem of marketplaces... trust or not their vendors, but that's not a problem unique of G2A or Kinguin, but of ALL, including Amazon, FNAC, Rakuten and eBay, of course.

We still remember the case of an user who wrote us (Otogami) to alert us of someone who was announcing through Amazon a 'collector's edition of a game at a very cheap price and what actually was just selling goodies of the collector's edition, but WITHOUT the game itself, just the goodies... a detail that he had forgotten to comment.
Problem is that eBay has prefers better not to talk, but we want also to discuss the case with Carrefour (a spanish physical market) happened to us: our automatic alert system price told us they were selling a pack of PSVITA + 4 games, including MotoGP14 at the ridiculous price of €49 - and we bought two just to check it.
Within hours, ordering done and paid, the offer changed and happened to be only MotoGP14, which was what we received in our office. As much as we protested and sent them proof that we had bought something else, they never wanted to acknowledge the mistake and we had to eat two games in a console that we don't own yet.

Then, do all marketplaces are bad? Can not you do anything to control the merchants or their suppliers? The truth is yes, you can. For example, holding the purchase for 30 days, or the warranty period correspondingly payments to merchants of games sold.
Another solution is easy to implement; support only to merchants that are not private companies and, of course, identify them when shopping.

To try to avoid scams that usually appear from time to time in the market of digital distribution, G2A implemented 'Shield' (an insurance that guarantees the validity of the keys bought for 1 additional €). G2A has ensured to refund the money to all consumers who purchased the "stolen" keys with Shield activated.

Ubisoft should never have removed the keys to end users

The truth of the matter is that EA / Origin is the cast have-not stolen, it is very different-. And instead of admitting their mistake and implement safety protocols that prevent this happening again in the future has agreed with Ubisoft "to pay the piper" to users who bought their products in other stores lawfully and in good faith.

With the decision to drop the keys as "stolen" has not done any harm to card's thieves, all that EA/Origin have done is generate a media wave to make users believe that alternative digital keys stores are unsafe and most media have made as speaker and helped convey the message.

To contextualize a bit the size of the mess, Kinguin acknowledged that he had already returned €146,000 to users who had bought 1,000 copies of "Far Cry 4", 450 "Assassin's Creed" and 100 key combination of "Watch Dogs" and "The Crew ". 0.02% of the 10 MILLION COPIES which together have sold those games... don't believe that this has made broken EA or Ubisoft...

The hypocrisy of the "Authorized Merchants Steam"

Although some seem not heard or appears to don't want to learn, there are not official or autorized stores for Steam. Basically, for each editor can generate as many keys as they want of their own games and sell them outside the system. So EVERY GAME has its own retailers: stores that the developers have sold their keys.

By the way, you know that when a developer creates a package of key selling off Steam, can tag those keys with ID name or wholesaler when it sells to know at any moment where it came, ANY key discharge appears there. Another thing is that not want to know ... lest they discover that someone on the team is generating keys on your own or that an "authorized" seller's're reselling."

Don't blame the messenger. Interesting article.
And sorry if some of the phrases don't make much sense, i have no time, and i have to eat my dinner.

Have a nice day :)

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