So has anyone heard about this game Upsilon Circuit? A buddy of mine was just posted a few articles about it to my facebook and I gotta say, this game sounds strange indeed!

First off, it's 2 teams of 4, fighting against each other in a fantasy action/RPG like setting. The players explore the overworld and dungeons, trying to be the first team to find a crystal hidden inside the dungeon. There are enemies and traps all around for the players to fight off, if they encounter each other, then can fight to the death.

While all that is going on, an audiences watches the encounters unfold, those watching gain XP and the rewards that those playing find, they then use those rewards and XP to level up those playing, they can also spend real money to add traps and new enemies or to just outright buy new equipment for those playing. They pretty much determine who is going to win the game, so having friends watching your back is going to play a big role in things.

Now here is the real kicker. This game has what they are calling perma-permadeath. If you are one of the 8 players playing the game, when you die, your character not only dies, but you are unable to play the game again. I believe you can still watch the game and interact with those playing it, but you will be locked out of playing the game. I am also sure at some point they will have to reset this, since over time, I could see a majority of players being unable to play anymore until there were hardly anyone left to play it.

It's a very unique idea, that's for sure. The game is still in development and I would hope it'll be free-to-play, since I can't see how anyone would want to pay to buy a game they may only be able to play once.

http://kotaku.com/if-you-die-in-this-game-you-can-never-play-again-ever-1690928265

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I had a similar perma perma perma death game idea some years ago. I m gonna sue them.

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Actually, there was something similar recently, not a game, but a book.

Kinda dumb that someone would pay that amount of money for something like that, but that's none of my business...

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If someone is okay with paying 300k dollars for a book that lasts 24 hours after you open it, they totally deserve to get some crappy midget porn book or something lol

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At first, I was thinking the same. Who would want to watch this? I was talking about this while at work tonight though and someone brought up something I didn't think about. Twitch.

Just think about it, people watch others play games all the time over Twitch and through Youtube, so much so that some of them are pretty much stars in some groups. Now, you put those same Youtubers and Twitch streamers into this game and people would be turning out in huge numbers watching and helping out their favorite streamers. Your favorite Twitch streamer is about to die... what do you do? Spend money! I could actually see the devs making at least some money off this.

Another thing that I started thinking about is a small little indie game called #IDARB that just came out last month on the Xbox One. I personally think the game is pure crap. It's a 4v4 side scrolling game that plays out like a sport, 2 goals, each team trying to score points by putting the ball in their opponent's goal. The game is boring as hell if you ask me. The thing is though, the game can be auto-streamed over Twitch, those watching can issue # commands at any time which changes things going on in game, such as rick rolling everyone, flooding the arena with water, turning the lights off, removing players from the penalty box, as well as many other things. Just watching the game and fucking with the players... is actually VERY fun! I didn't even notice it one night, but I ended up sitting on Twitch messing with #IDARB players for almost 3 hours.

I still am on the fence about this whole thing though. I just don't see how they could even remotely turn any kind of profit from this thing. I also just can't imagine the player base being big enough for something like this. It is something I want to follow though, that's for sure, because I just can't figure out how anyone would want to buy into something like this. Even if I ended up downloading this game, I can't see myself doing anything but trolling people playing the game.

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Would be interesting to see how it turns out.

I think I should create a single player game with perma-permadeath: when your character dies you can no longer play the game until you buy it again. That would gets lots of sales, I'm sure.

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Arcade machines. Remember those? They worked in that way. Cut down the price you think it would be, and boom, people would play.

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Arcade games stuck around for a long time. Its only in the last few years that they have pretty much died out.

As for comparing it to a Steam library, arcade machines usually offered stuff that you couldn't get on other systems. Those full sized machines with replicated vehicles for example, or the 360 degree rotating machines.

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Oh, they can still do stuff the consoles can't with the full sized hardware, but most people don't care as much now since they are otherwise still close in terms of gameplay.

Plus, increasing development costs means higher profits required to be profitable. Home games game make us pay a full price then nickel and dime us for months, arcade games don't really do well if the price is too much, but can't be profitable if too low.

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unfortunately, pc games are easier to exploit, so once an unlimited health hack is out, your business model fails

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I guess I should have posted a sarcasm warning.

Still, I believe that if a game like this really was created, and assuming it was a good game and one where skill affects survival, there would be players who are willing to pay to try it again and again until they finish it.

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And far as I understand it, it's free to play, which is why they could make good money off it. Being a contestant would not cost a thing, but they could make money from either advertising or audience participation (if it catches on a gets a large audience).

But even if it did cost money to play, it would be quite easy to get people to play. Say it costs $10 to enter, and every 10 rounds you last you win $1000. I can see a lot of people going for this.

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There's pretty much no way to ensure that you never get to play the game again.

And nobody will buy it to play for 5 minutes, die, and do nothing the rest of the time.

It's an interesting gimmick, but it's still a gimmick.

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So, like real life?

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it's waste.

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sounds like a lame pay to win game

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Well, from everything I've read, it kind of is, though different then most "Pay-to-Win" games. Instead of tasking the players to pay for things though, the audience who is watching are the ones who can opt to spend real world money on things. Though I've read different online sites say different things as to what that money can be spent on, it sounds like for the most part real world money can be spent to purchase upgrades and weapons to outfit the players to help them out or you can spend money to add traps or spawn monsters into certain areas to hinder a team from getting through the dungeon.

I mentioned earlier, I could see this working in someone's favor if they have a friend watching their back while they played, but even then, it's no guarantee that them spending that cash on you will really help you out in the end, since there could be someone else in the audience spending money on the other team. I can also find no references as to what happens between games, such as do you level up and those levels go towards your next playthrough or if gear found or bought for you carries over through multiple games.

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i've played enough mobile games w/ leaderboards to know there will be lots of people using their wallets to boost their self-esteem...i mean i could just give my friend the money to buy me stuff or whatever.

it does sound like an interesting spin though, i'll give you that

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This is so silly it's not even funny.

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Stupid game. MatchMaking will fail all the freaking time. Waste of time, waste of bandwitch, waste of everything.

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Yeah right, I see the multitudes playing... And what's more paying for that...

Still, there are masochists aplenty on the Internet.

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